Carbine for Bear Protection

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Carbine for Bear Protection

Posted: 1/20/2017 4:59:56 PM EDT

Just thinking.....if you had an AR with a 16 inch barrel putting a 230 to 300 grain bullet downrange at 2000+ feet per second....with at least ten...maybe 15rounds in the mag.....would you consider it adequate for bear protection?

Posted: 1/20/2017 5:10:02 PM EDT

[#1]

So the 458 SOCOM?

Yes
In fact I know of at least one LEO in a costal community where brown bears are a real threat that carries a 458 SOCOM as his long gun for that very reason

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:24:49 PM EDT

[#2]

Actually I'm looking at 45 Win Mag.....

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:20:17 PM EDT

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.458 SOCOM has almost twice the energy of a .45 WinMag, as does the .50 Beowulf (my choice when I lived in AK) and .450 Bushmaster, and all typically use heavier bullets.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:48:18 AM EDT

[#4]

And the 458 Socom is proven on bears. I don't remember which member here it was (maybe Kodan?) that uses one down on Kodiak or Sitka. Never did find out how the billets I shipped him years ago worked out.

Posted: 1/21/2017 3:18:01 PM EDT

[#5]

I am planning on doing a .458 SOCOM SBR upper for bear protection this summer.

Posted: 1/22/2017 2:20:21 AM EDT

[#6]

I would rather have 350 grains at 1800 as a min.

Posted: 1/24/2017 4:26:48 AM EDT

[#7]

I've killed many bears and moose with my 458 socom. It works.

Posted: 1/24/2017 4:33:11 AM EDT

[#8]

If memory serves I'm getting 2150 with hornady 250 gr GMX and 1950 with 300 gr barnes Tipped TSX.

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Posted: 1/30/2017 5:35:24 AM EDT

[#9]

I have my .50 Beowulf.

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Posted: 2/2/2017 5:20:06 AM EDT

[#10]

I was thinking a .45 Raptor sounds fun.

Posted: 2/2/2017 10:49:47 PM EDT

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I haven't heard of that one. What's it based off of, or is it a completely new thing?

Posted: 2/3/2017 1:49:58 AM EDT

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460 S&W with the rim turned down to fit a AR10 bolt. You can use 460 smith dies and load data which is nice since it all exists already. The extra capacity using an AR10 type rifle should turn out to equal extra oomph.

Posted: 2/4/2017 2:27:45 AM EDT

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460 S&W with the rim turned down to fit a AR10 bolt. You can use 460 smith dies and load data which is nice since it all exists already. The extra capacity using an AR10 type rifle should turn out to equal extra oomph.

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Okay, that sounds pretty damn awesome. I just looked up the ballistics and good fucking god. From a 160gr Barnes Tac-X to their 325gr Buster, you're looking a solid 3000 to 3300 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. That is freaking insane

Posted: 2/6/2017 2:44:33 AM EDT

[#14]

I use the .50 beowulf. ~zero chance, love the rifle

Posted: 2/8/2017 6:01:25 PM EDT

[#15]

+1 for the Beowulf.

Posted: 2/24/2017 3:57:33 AM EDT

[#16]

A long time friend stopped a really pissed of Brown Sow, with a 10mm Glock..
just a few months ago, south side of Kachemak bay. Just dropping the bear, he tripped, fell backward, and sent the last round of 10mm through his foot. Might have been 6 or 7 hour skiff ride back to town, he's a tough bastard.

IF the .45 Win Mag is a particularly reliable example, you'll have a chance.
Myself, I'd rather have a real short 12 gauge.

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