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Posted: 5/17/2007 7:11:55 AM EDT
[#1]
damn if I could I would as I'd love to try and see something solid counter the continual rants of a select few!!! Good luck with it.
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Posted: 5/17/2007 7:19:14 AM EDT
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I have some of the RG 62gr stuff. But I am not sure if its the under loaded stuff or not. Its all steel penetrator stuff. If it will work let me know, I can donate some if needed.
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Posted: 5/17/2007 8:10:44 AM EDT
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Thanks, but we need M855 and TAP .223 ammo to correlate with HIS testing.
Pat |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 8:22:12 AM EDT
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No problem Pat. Anytime.
Oddly enough...shooting your full auto, short barreled, suppressed AR put me into a much better mood after a crappy day at work. I felt a little less aggressive AND we accomplished something. |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 8:27:32 AM EDT
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YES we did!
Thanks again |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 9:01:10 AM EDT
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I have some 855. These are the Arab ammos.
I got it from Joe's for 5.50 each or so. I have 60 rounds of it or 3 boxes Is that enough? |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 9:26:00 AM EDT
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I have a 2006 model m4 2000 by AAC. I've been following the thread over at silencer tests. I'm in Albany, let me know what I can do.. That SWR Trident you sold me rocks!
 And thanks again for leting me shoot the full auto AK. I have a video camera too.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 11:50:49 AM EDT
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TESTING TONIGHT ONLY
See 1st post of this thread. Pat |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 12:58:03 PM EDT
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any mention of trying a .30cal can on the AR with a thread adapter? Just curious in any possible differences.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 1:02:55 PM EDT
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I hate Portland and that area, but it's stuff like this that makes me wonder if I would be able to tolerate it any
 Damn you all for living up there 
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Posted: 5/18/2007 2:48:00 PM EDT
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If you can talk NO-AIM in to bringing the adapter? |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 3:05:19 PM EDT
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I think I have a couple hundred rounds of M855 if you still needs some. I can check as soon as I get home(Gaston) and I can probably come out your way tonight.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 3:29:14 PM EDT
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I had some 5.56 62 grain ammo made in Yemen.If thats the Arab ammo your talking about watch out.At least 3 or 4 rounds per mag would dump there primers in the weapon after being fired.Most the time they fell into the trigger area,but a few got stuck in the chamber between the paths for the bolt lugs.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 5:10:53 PM EDT
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Here comes the RAIN Think we are good on 855, but you are welcome to come, and bring ammo if you wish. Pat |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 5:12:22 PM EDT
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The EXACT same thing happened to me with the last batch of HSM, but only in the M16, the HK and Galil ate it fine?????? |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 8:19:54 PM EDT
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You may want to check if high humidity changes things- High hydrogen content or something.  NoHair |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 8:24:27 PM EDT
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I didn't make it out tonight so probably not gonna get a chance to test in a high Methane content environment. I bet that might make a difference.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 8:45:48 PM EDT
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Trust me you wouldn't like it!! But I know what yoy mean about times like these. I'd have made a special trip out even living as far out as I did;ne of vancouver. |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 11:15:38 PM EDT
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You missed a good time and a good learning experience. I brought an AAC M4-2000 on a POF upper; Pat also had a SRT Typhoon, Triple XXX, a SRT .308 can that we used on a .223. The .308 can on the .223 had a nice sound with good suppression. We also had a M4-2000 mounted on an AK-74 in 5.45x39 at the night shoot.
The point of the test was to look at the flash at night with several different kinds of ammo. The SRT Typhoon did not have anywhere near the flash that was shown in some pictures posted on another site. Dave Brown |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 9:16:27 AM EDT
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From looking at the photos, it looked as though the TAC-16 had the most flash. Is that correct?
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Posted: 5/19/2007 10:06:43 AM EDT
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Sort of. Keep in mind that picture has 10 shots all superimposed on it. The biggest "flash" is actually just the first round "pop". Afterwards there was a minimal 1-3"L x 1/2" W jet of flame out the front. And, that was also from a 10" barrel. A 16" barrel or longer will likely have a small flame for the first round, and just smoke (no flame) for the rest. This is what we were seeing on the other cans. Basically, the shooting consisted of a lot of "flame, smoke, smoke, smoke". The shorter the barrels, the smoke started turning into a small jet of flame. So it's not like you see it all the time. |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 10:07:38 AM EDT
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Done and Done. I'm glad to see it worked. |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 11:42:43 AM EDT
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I had a great time... I am still ear to ear grin after the Saiga!
Thanks Pat! Dave |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 10:51:59 AM EDT
[#24]
That was a great time, LOW AMMO-COUNT, LOW SOUND, and FUN!
So, I have a Nikon D100 Camera coming this week, and the actual CAN that was suppose to have created the BIG FLASH. Will let you guys know WHEN we do the 2nd set of testing.  Pat |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 10:59:23 AM EDT
[#25]
I just registered. Gotta see what Silvers has to say
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Posted: 5/21/2007 11:05:56 AM EDT
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hahahahaha Up to PAGE 14 now!
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Posted: 5/21/2007 11:34:17 AM EDT
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Annnnnnnndddddd so off track it's not funny. Photography talk 101 Typical silvers bullshit if you ask me.On that note, the guy from Gemtech this wknd at Albany was very nice!! So was the 416 I got to rattle a mag off of too
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Posted: 5/21/2007 11:38:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2007 11:46:26 AM EDT
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Why? What did I miss? |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 11:50:11 AM EDT
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That was Sean from Seattle.
He came down and let No-Hair Finger-F the MP7 |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:06:19 PM EDT
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Anytime you call sombodys website a "Suckfest" your time is usually limited!  |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:12:26 PM EDT
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I'll remember that one. I already got an IM from him.....ON MY 2ND POST What a pompus ass he is |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:29:30 PM EDT
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16pages and now I am a "powertripping peon moderator"
  Well, that was fun. Tought me to stray from the OR HTF anyways. 
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:33:32 PM EDT
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I'm confused.
Why is it so important to know how much flame is put out by 10 rounds full auto? And why not figure out at what point the flames grow so large? Round 5, 6, or, etc? I'd rather see test pictures of one round at a time and fast semi fire. |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:37:56 PM EDT
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So....the first shots are that way. The rest are exactly as you ask. One shot only. Then the next picture is 3 shots on semi as fast as you can pull the trigger. Geez. |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:45:04 PM EDT
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You know we love you man! AACtests.....err I mean Silencertests.com is very anti AR15.com. |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:51:38 PM EDT
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The fact that you so generously pointed out that I was a mod probably didn't help my cause out much. Buuuuuuuuuuuttttttttt........my account has not been nuked yet. How long should I ignore those IM's?
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Posted: 5/21/2007 1:49:29 PM EDT
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I couldnt help it! Just so you know, I resisted........but the laughter won me over.  Just tell them that your the mod in the BOTD forum and they will become your best friend! |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 4:09:58 PM EDT
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Then what does that mean? Also, you should post some pictures (or even better, video) of the view through your scope when it ALL turns to flame on that new AR of yours. That was scary to shoot. I'm not used to a ball of fire engulfing my entire field of view. |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 4:34:08 PM EDT
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Hehe. You know...I should try that on my little 10.5"... |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 6:06:33 PM EDT
[#41]
is there anymore pat? I want to bring my Hk91 with the SAS can and my tac16 and try all that and see
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Posted: 5/22/2007 2:14:15 AM EDT
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From his website...
"Mr. Silvers is a Photographer and Artist who holds a degree in Computer Science from the University of Massachusetts as well as a Master of Media Arts and Sciences from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Mr. Silvers now designs silencers for AAC and no longer does independent testing." nothing jumps out at me as being qualified to do anything like engineering a silencer...photography, artist, computer science and media arts?...damn hippy Art majors... |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 6:04:58 AM EDT
[#43]
Oh this sure made my day!!!!!!!!!
[quote="rsilvers"]Boy you Origonians sure stick together. I never implied I was against a second test. In fact I have gone out of my way to facilitate one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 6:14:09 AM EDT
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Agreed. For me I dont take much of it very serious as after all, it is one mfg slamming another in most cases there. People are fast to jump on all mfgs except AAC on that website. It just gets old. |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 7:09:40 AM EDT
[#45]
 Thats some enginnering degree he has......aint it!
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Posted: 5/22/2007 7:27:30 AM EDT
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Engineering degrees are kinda soft right now. The requirements for getting into any engineering school nowadays is alot of less strict than it was back in the 90's.. It seems everything is getting watered down now.
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Posted: 5/22/2007 7:50:50 AM EDT
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Rob Silvers might be biased but from my experience with him, he does know his shit and has played with more cans and full-auto's then all of us combined. He speaks his mind and gives his opinion....and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ant' that the truth....they even gave me one! |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 8:22:07 AM EDT
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After reading that train wreck of a thread, I think all of us that have cameras should bring 'em and set them all up and post all kinds of photographic results. Diff ISO settings, f-stops, shutters... etc...
And Pat, Nikon?! What the hell?! J/K... Mark. |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 8:30:30 AM EDT
[#49]
Boy you Origonians sure stick together
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Posted: 5/22/2007 8:38:53 AM EDT
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That's cuz we're rusted together.
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