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Posted: 8/15/2015 11:48:08 PM EDT
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We have a lot of liberals and a lot of people that carry without a permit.
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Posted: 8/16/2015 1:18:52 AM EDT
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I know a few co workers with the attitude that if I can have it in glove box loaded why should I bother with the cost and time of a CCW.
I do not agree and have a CCW. Granted a few of my co workers have medi marijuana cards so they could not get there CCW if they wanted to. Also I want to believe we are a pro gun state but there are so many anti gun people coming into the state especially in the south Which is where I am at. Dave |
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Posted: 8/16/2015 9:32:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have a lot of liberals and a lot of people that carry without a permit. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2015 11:05:38 PM EDT
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We have a lot of liberals and a lot of people that carry without a permit. Nailed it. I umm, know "somebody" that did it for several years after moving down here. Only reason they finally went legit was so they could buy a gun which required local ID. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 7:59:55 PM EDT
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I umm, know "somebody" that did it for several years after moving down here. Only reason they finally went legit was so they could buy a gun which required local ID. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have a lot of liberals and a lot of people that carry without a permit. Nailed it. I umm, know "somebody" that did it for several years after moving down here. Only reason they finally went legit was so they could buy a gun which required local ID. Now that we got rid of the "blue card" registration, which I'm glad we did, it give less incentive to the "Cali-lifers" ,as I call them, to change over their car registration or Drivers licenses. Dave |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 4:10:32 AM EDT
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I've found that a lot of people don't want to do the training (even the free shit at the Gun Store).
And many of those people that I've met I wouldn't trust with a FUCKING slingshot. For reals. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 8:18:02 AM EDT
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I've found that a lot of people don't want to do the training (even the free shit at the Gun Store). And many of those people that I've met I wouldn't trust with a FUCKING slingshot. For reals. I think it is absurd that I have to pay both the state and a private individual before I can carry a gun to protect myself. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 8:44:09 AM EDT
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I think it is absurd that I have to pay both the state and a private individual before I can carry a gun to protect myself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've found that a lot of people don't want to do the training (even the free shit at the Gun Store). And many of those people that I've met I wouldn't trust with a FUCKING slingshot. For reals. I think it is absurd that I have to pay both the state and a private individual before I can carry a gun to protect myself. Unfortunately, that's the law in Nevada for CCW right now. You don't have to pay anyone in order to open carry or carry concealed in your vehicle. If you have seen what I've seen in my 20 years of training students, you might not think that required training is that absurd. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 12:19:01 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, that's the law in Nevada for CCW right now. You don't have to pay anyone in order to open carry or carry concealed in your vehicle. If you have seen what I've seen in my 20 years of training students, you might not think that required training is that absurd. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've found that a lot of people don't want to do the training (even the free shit at the Gun Store). And many of those people that I've met I wouldn't trust with a FUCKING slingshot. For reals. I think it is absurd that I have to pay both the state and a private individual before I can carry a gun to protect myself. Unfortunately, that's the law in Nevada for CCW right now. You don't have to pay anyone in order to open carry or carry concealed in your vehicle. If you have seen what I've seen in my 20 years of training students, you might not think that required training is that absurd. I've seen more than my share. Freedom is scary to a lot of people but I try to walk the walk and recognize that freedoms shouldn't be subject to permitting. |
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Posted: 8/24/2015 2:25:14 AM EDT
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With so few permits why does it take them 4 months to process a renewal?
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Posted: 8/24/2015 10:18:23 AM EDT
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With so few permits why does it take them 4 months to process a renewal? They want to make sure you know who's in charge. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:29:28 PM EDT
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According to DPS, in Clark County there is 54,736 active permits. Washoe has only 18,685 as of August 8th, 2015. For being such a pro gun state, why is there such a small percentage of people with permits? Thanks several years ago, a skank from RGJ sued for the list of all permit holders in order to publish them. That was one thing that kept me for years not bothering to renew. It's also the final nail in the coffin of ever buying another paper. EVER. anyway, that surely kept numbers down. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 4:26:59 PM EDT
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With so few permits why does it take them 4 months to process a renewal? FBI. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 2:48:25 PM EDT
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FBI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With so few permits why does it take them 4 months to process a renewal? FBI. You're saying it takes 4 months to process the background check? |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 3:23:53 PM EDT
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Think that is long....buy an NFA item.
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Posted: 9/4/2015 5:56:04 PM EDT
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You're saying it takes 4 months to process the background check? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With so few permits why does it take them 4 months to process a renewal? FBI. You're saying it takes 4 months to process the background check? It takes so long because they sit on it. FBI doesn't hold them up. I got my first one back in 2 weeks because I knew someone in the office at the Fingerprint Bureau. It was explained to me that they are intentionally delayed, usually nearest to max time frames. Didn't have the hookup on my renewal and waited nearly the maximum allowed time frame. |
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Posted: 9/4/2015 7:47:34 PM EDT
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It takes so long because they sit on it. FBI doesn't hold them up. I got my first one back in 2 weeks because I knew someone in the office at the Fingerprint Bureau. It was explained to me that they are intentionally delayed, usually nearest to max time frames. Didn't have the hookup on my renewal and waited nearly the maximum allowed time frame. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With so few permits why does it take them 4 months to process a renewal? FBI. You're saying it takes 4 months to process the background check? It takes so long because they sit on it. FBI doesn't hold them up. I got my first one back in 2 weeks because I knew someone in the office at the Fingerprint Bureau. It was explained to me that they are intentionally delayed, usually nearest to max time frames. Didn't have the hookup on my renewal and waited nearly the maximum allowed time frame. That was why I asked him. I have never heard of the actual check taking anywhere near that long. |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 12:53:37 PM EDT
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I just moved up to WA from Reno a few months ago. When I got up here and applied for my permit they ran a FBI check just like everyone else does. I had my permit sitting in my mail box 4 days after I applied.
Whatever delay exists it isn't because of the FBI system. Ooh and the cost up here is only $35 as well. Sorry. |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 7:34:15 PM EDT
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My permit expires tomorrow and my renewal is not here yet.
Wife applied for hers a week after I did and giot hers 2 weeks ago. I've gotten 2 silencers that I put in for AFTER my CCW renewal. I hope I don't have to shoot someone before it gets here! |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 7:46:36 PM EDT
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I've seen more than my share. Freedom is scary to a lot of people but I try to walk the walk and recognize that freedoms shouldn't be subject to permitting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've found that a lot of people don't want to do the training (even the free shit at the Gun Store). And many of those people that I've met I wouldn't trust with a FUCKING slingshot. For reals. I think it is absurd that I have to pay both the state and a private individual before I can carry a gun to protect myself. Unfortunately, that's the law in Nevada for CCW right now. You don't have to pay anyone in order to open carry or carry concealed in your vehicle. If you have seen what I've seen in my 20 years of training students, you might not think that required training is that absurd. I've seen more than my share. Freedom is scary to a lot of people but I try to walk the walk and recognize that freedoms shouldn't be subject to permitting. |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 7:59:40 PM EDT
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My permit expires tomorrow and my renewal is not here yet. Wife applied for hers a week after I did and giot hers 2 weeks ago. I've gotten 2 silencers that I put in for AFTER my CCW renewal. I hope I don't have to shoot someone before it gets here! i believe the last set of laws that passed made it so that if your permit expired while you were waiting for the new one it's still valid. |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 11:15:14 PM EDT
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i believe the last set of laws that passed made it so that if your permit expired while you were waiting for the new one it's still valid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My permit expires tomorrow and my renewal is not here yet. Wife applied for hers a week after I did and giot hers 2 weeks ago. I've gotten 2 silencers that I put in for AFTER my CCW renewal. I hope I don't have to shoot someone before it gets here! i believe the last set of laws that passed made it so that if your permit expired while you were waiting for the new one it's still valid. I thought so too but one of those slack jawed faggots told me "there is no grace period. When it expires it expires" |
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Posted: 9/9/2015 3:40:29 PM EDT
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I just moved up to WA from Reno a few months ago. When I got up here and applied for my permit they ran a FBI check just like everyone else does. I had my permit sitting in my mail box 4 days after I applied.
Whatever delay exists it isn't because of the FBI system. Ooh and the cost up here is only $35 as well. Sorry. You guys in WA have it good all the way around...we could only pray to be as evolved and progressive as you folks. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/09/worth-shot-tacoma-mulls-gun-drop-boxes/ |
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Posted: 9/9/2015 7:32:21 PM EDT
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Last renewal in Lincoln County took two days. I imagine its like that in most of the rural areas.
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Posted: 9/9/2015 9:12:45 PM EDT
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i believe the last set of laws that passed made it so that if your permit expired while you were waiting for the new one it's still valid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My permit expires tomorrow and my renewal is not here yet. Wife applied for hers a week after I did and giot hers 2 weeks ago. I've gotten 2 silencers that I put in for AFTER my CCW renewal. I hope I don't have to shoot someone before it gets here! i believe the last set of laws that passed made it so that if your permit expired while you were waiting for the new one it's still valid. Which laws are those....have a link perhaps ? |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 12:31:31 AM EDT
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Last renewal in Lincoln County took two days. I imagine its like that in most of the rural areas. Not any longer mine took 3 months. Just got it a few weeks ago. ETA....although Toni probably shelved mine for at least a couple months once I applied. I dropped off all my paperwork and she looked at it and said I couldn't get a ccw.. when I asked why that was she informed me she "didn't know who Line of Fire was" so it's not legit. I told her I didn't care who she knew or didn't know Joe is a STATE certified instructor and this is a state issue not a county issue. She told me Kerry (the Sheriff) wasn't in to ask so for me to go back home ( 2 hour drive) and come back some other day...I looked at her like she was nuts and politely asked if the Sheriff just might have a radio on him when he's out in the field so she could ask and she finally told .me to go have lunch and come back...when I came back she had asked and Kerry said it was gtg....I know everyone thinks Toni is the bees knees but I personally think she's a dim bulb. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 3:10:07 PM EDT
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Which laws are those....have a link perhaps ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My permit expires tomorrow and my renewal is not here yet. Wife applied for hers a week after I did and giot hers 2 weeks ago. I've gotten 2 silencers that I put in for AFTER my CCW renewal. I hope I don't have to shoot someone before it gets here! i believe the last set of laws that passed made it so that if your permit expired while you were waiting for the new one it's still valid. Which laws are those....have a link perhaps ? it might have been in a bill that died... i thought it got passed but i can't find it again |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 7:29:53 PM EDT
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AB 404
No idea if it actually passed. I am seriously considering a lawsuit against the County because this is ridiculous. But yeah...i can see why people carry without permits... |
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Posted: 9/10/2015 7:36:23 PM EDT
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back.
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Posted: 9/10/2015 8:54:55 PM EDT
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Yes, the carrying without a permit was reinstated to the old law.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 12:21:05 AM EDT
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back. It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 12:48:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AB 404 No idea if it actually passed. I am seriously considering a lawsuit against the County because this is ridiculous. But yeah...i can see why people carry without permits... Are you saying SB404 can't be found? :D |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:21:19 AM EDT
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It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back. It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. But nowhere did they list that change as a desired change. It is not discussed anywhere and was not debated at all. What happened was reworking of the law missed the punishment of the ccw charge. Since none was listed, it defaulted to a misdemeanor. Every law not listing a punishment defaults to a misdemeanor. If that was their intent from the beginning, you would have seen one of them defend it. |
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Posted: 9/19/2015 11:35:38 PM EDT
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But nowhere did they list that change as a desired change. It is not discussed anywhere and was not debated at all. What happened was reworking of the law missed the punishment of the ccw charge. Since none was listed, it defaulted to a misdemeanor. Every law not listing a punishment defaults to a misdemeanor. If that was their intent from the beginning, you would have seen one of them defend it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back. It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. But nowhere did they list that change as a desired change. It is not discussed anywhere and was not debated at all. What happened was reworking of the law missed the punishment of the ccw charge. Since none was listed, it defaulted to a misdemeanor. Every law not listing a punishment defaults to a misdemeanor. If that was their intent from the beginning, you would have seen one of them defend it.  I always thought carrying concealed without a permit first offense was a misdemeanor.
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Posted: 9/20/2015 12:41:35 AM EDT
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back. It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. But nowhere did they list that change as a desired change. It is not discussed anywhere and was not debated at all. What happened was reworking of the law missed the punishment of the ccw charge. Since none was listed, it defaulted to a misdemeanor. Every law not listing a punishment defaults to a misdemeanor. If that was their intent from the beginning, you would have seen one of them defend it. I always thought carrying concealed without a permit first offense was a misdemeanor.Most states I am aware of it is. |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 11:57:44 AM EDT
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I always thought carrying concealed without a permit first offense was a misdemeanor.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back. It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. But nowhere did they list that change as a desired change. It is not discussed anywhere and was not debated at all. What happened was reworking of the law missed the punishment of the ccw charge. Since none was listed, it defaulted to a misdemeanor. Every law not listing a punishment defaults to a misdemeanor. If that was their intent from the beginning, you would have seen one of them defend it. I always thought carrying concealed without a permit first offense was a misdemeanor.It has always been a Category C Felony and still is. |
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Posted: 9/21/2015 7:58:40 PM EDT
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I was glad to hear the new law that dealt with auto knives also included a section that changed carrying without a permit from a felony to a misdemeanor but apparently that was a "mistake" and they changed it back. It was changed back illegally IMO- after the law was already passed and signed by the governor. The whole thing wreaks of corruption. The law allows them to change the text of bills after they are passed and signed only for clerical errors such as "typographical mistakes". That was no typographical mistake, they had to fundamentally change the wording and structure of the bill. But nowhere did they list that change as a desired change. It is not discussed anywhere and was not debated at all. What happened was reworking of the law missed the punishment of the ccw charge. Since none was listed, it defaulted to a misdemeanor. Every law not listing a punishment defaults to a misdemeanor. If that was their intent from the beginning, you would have seen one of them defend it. I always thought carrying concealed without a permit first offense was a misdemeanor.It has always been a Category C Felony and still is. NRS 202.350 States first offense is a misdemeanor, second offense is a felony. Please read the statute and see if you agree or tell me how I am wrong. |
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Posted: 9/21/2015 9:46:50 PM EDT
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(d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any:
(1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof; (2) Dirk, dagger or machete; (3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, or other dangerous or deadly weapon; or (4) Knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle. 2. Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of: (a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) or (4) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty: (1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor. (2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. (b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. |
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Posted: 9/21/2015 11:12:04 PM EDT
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(d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any: (1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof; (2) Dirk, dagger or machete; (3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, or other dangerous or deadly weapon; or (4) Knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle. 2. Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of: (a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) or (4) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty: (1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor. (2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. (b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. Well I'll be damned. I wish they would write the laws a little more clearly. Way back when I got my first permit the sheriff asked me why I wanted one. I told him that I carried afield and wanted to be able to let my jacket cover my gun to keep the snow and pine needles out of it. He brushed it off and indicated like , who cares just do it. I told him , " maybe you wouldn't but I might run into a game warden or someone else", and put in my application. |
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Posted: 9/22/2015 12:25:46 AM EDT
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Well I'll be damned. I wish they would write the laws a little more clearly. Way back when I got my first permit the sheriff asked me why I wanted one. I told him that I carried afield and wanted to be able to let my jacket cover my gun to keep the snow and pine needles out of it. He brushed it off and indicated like , who cares just do it. I told him , " maybe you wouldn't but I might run into a game warden or someone else", and put in my application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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(d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any: (1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof; (2) Dirk, dagger or machete; (3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, or other dangerous or deadly weapon; or (4) Knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle. 2. Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of: (a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) or (4) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty: (1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor. (2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. (b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. Well I'll be damned. I wish they would write the laws a little more clearly. Way back when I got my first permit the sheriff asked me why I wanted one. I told him that I carried afield and wanted to be able to let my jacket cover my gun to keep the snow and pine needles out of it. He brushed it off and indicated like , who cares just do it. I told him , " maybe you wouldn't but I might run into a game warden or someone else", and put in my application. I know, Bro. Looking at statutes is like trying to assemble a jigsaw puzzle with some of the pieces that belong to another puzzle. It frustrates me too. Just like the vehicle BAC (.08) and the firearm BAC (.10) in NRS as an example. Go figure. |
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