So as I read the recent thread on the Shooting Park, I was surprised to read that there were some who had yet to, or had just heard about it...to you few folks I ask...where the heck have ya been for the last year and a half, and have ya been to any of the gun shows. I am a volunteer for the shooting park and will do my best to answer any questions or concerns that you may have. The Clark County Shooting park has had an info booth at just about every gun show for the last year and a half now, I have met and spoke with hundreds of folks about the park and as hopefully all of you, I am excited about the park opening and will use it often, after all, it's for us, paid for by us the taxpayers...finally a good use of our tax dollars. So if you have questions as there were a few in the other thread, please ask, and I will do my best to answer them in a timely fashion. Please post your questions, and don't IM me as my inbox will fill up fast.

Off the top of my head, I can't remember what the fees will be....

According to the map only areas in yellow are public range areas. Are the green areas open to the public as well when there isn't an event taking place?

The fee is $7, and that is for the day. It covers everything except trap and skeet/shooting clays, I can't remember the fee for that. Also, the fee is only for the shooter, so if you and the family go and you're the only one shooting, you're the the only one who pays, it's not a "cover charge", if you want to just go and check the place out there is no fee. And as I said, that is for the day, so you can hit the rifle, then pistol or what not and only pay one fee.

This is so awesome.  And excuse my earlier post if it seems ignorant- it definitely is, only because I'm not a Nevadan, and randomly came across this this evening- so am most interested for when I visit town!

My main question is still about the 1200y (and thereby 900, 800, 700y, etc.) range and availability on days that are not sanctioned match days- will it be open to essentially plink steel, free shoot, etc?  If so, I may have just found my Shangri-La.  I can't necessarily go out to the desert only because I know very little about the surrounding area, and would rather keep it on a range if I can.

Those areas in green are not going to be built just yet, they will depend on funding. everything else is paid for and will open soon. As for use of the green areas, those are slated to be for "User groups" and or LE or Military use I believe. User groups are kind of like shooting clubs, you get a group of folks together, get the liability insurance and you're pretty much good to go. That one though is kind of a grey area, and I only know so much about it, you can go to the shooting park site and contact Don Turner, he's the park manager an is the best one for that question. But as far as I know "General Public" won't be able to use those green areas at will, and again it'll be a while before those areas are even built so things can always change. I don't see much point in worrying about them until they are actually under construction. I hope that helped.

see above answer

Since you know the guy (and I have no idea how influential this could be,) please, please, PLEASE pitch the idea of putting steel out on the long range.  It would be tremendously wonderful

What types of ammunition will be allowed on the range?

Thanks.  Are there going to be 'memberships' available?  DSRPC is much cheaper than that if you go often....

It seems to me like I've been hearing about this for more like 5 years. What in the world is taking so long????

Do you have a larger version of that map for download? Where is it exactly and when is it going to open?

Clark County, Nevada Shooting Park Homepage

Click on "Master Plan" and there is a viewable and zoomable map.

Hope this helps.

I have several questions:

–– Will there be any kind of restrictions on ammo type for rifles?
–– Will there be any restrictions on rapid fire on the range?  For either pistol or rifle?
–– Will target frames be provided?  If not, is there a restriction on the type of targets shooters can use?
–– Will there be any restrictions on the type of shooting stances shooters can use?  standing, prone, barricade, sitting, etc?

thanks!

I'm no expert on this Shooting Park. I just posted the link as a FYI so it would be in this post.

Any in-depth questions should be directed to Roadie (the original poster of this thread).

full auto?

Perfect, thanks.

Again, as a volunteer, I am only told so much, but I will give you all as much as I can and be as accurate as I can.
For the question above this one, not sure what took so long...and it doesn't matter now, since it's under construction and nearing completion.

Ammo restrictions....I am told that they don't want any tracers, incendiary or explosive tip ammo...in other words...just shoot regular ammo and all is well.
Rapid fire/Full Auto...from what I am told, rapid fire and or full auto is fine, but the weapon must be benched. In other words, they don't want folks standing up and spraying bullets down range, and for obvious reasons. This is a family facility and actions like that can be dangerous if there are lots of folks around, kids and what not...they will ask that all shooters act and shoot in a responsible manor as would any shooting range would.
Taget frames...yes, they'll be there, I'm not completely sure if you can bring your own, I do know that you can use your own targets...no human shaped targets... I may be wrong on that one, and or you can buy targets at the pro shop.
Restrictions on the type of shooting stances shooters can use...good question, not sure...I wouldn't think so as long as you are being responsible, I will look into that  one but again, I wouldn't think so.
Bring your own ammo...you can bring your own, or you can buy ammo at the pro shop...but again, no tracers, explosive tips...ect...
50 cal rifles...yes as far as I know.
When will they open...SOON, I am being told somwhere between mid to late summer, but nothing concrete. As with any construction project delays happen, and it is a large project. So please be patient, this thing has been in the works for about 20 years now, and we are in the final stretch. Also don't worry about things shutting down because of money, the public phase that is being done right now is already paid for.
Complaints from the neighbors...yes there have been, yes it is still in litigation, I don't know any more on that as I am too low on the totem pole for that kind of info. What I can say is my opinion, and that is does anyone really thing that clark County will allow 60 some odd million dollars be tossed away because a few residents in a nearby community and not happy about the park. Some of their complaints are valid, and they are being addressed by the county and the lawyers, plus we are still under construction, so I wouldn't worry about it.
How many shooting stations... Archery Center:  The Archery Center will house a known-distance archery
range, covered firing points, and shade ramadas.
• Shotgun Center:  This feature contains 24 combination Trap and Skeet
fields, a 5,443 square foot shotgun center with a reception area, a pro
shop, shotgun storage lockers and a cafeteria.   It will also feature 90 full-
service RV sites, a clay target storage building, lit ranges and shade
ramadas.
• Public Rifle/Pistol Center:  The Public Rifle/Pistol Center will offer 30
shooting points up to 50 yards; 15 shooting points up to 200 yards; 15
points up to 100 yards, night lights, shade ramadas, concrete shooting
tables, covered shooting areas, a 3,000 square foot building with a
convenience store, a reception area, a 30 seat classroom, restrooms and
a pro shop.
• Hunter Education Center:  This 4,400 square foot building will contain
three 30-seat classrooms expandable up to one 90-seat classroom, two
offices for NDOW use, and restrooms.  It will also feature night lighting, a
100-meter archery range with 10 positions, a 100-yard range with10
positions, and a 50-yard range with 20 positions. It will also contain a
shotgun range and two walking field courses.
Range distances...In the public module, the farthest distance is 200yds, I believe pistol goes to 50. And I ma with you guys that there ought to be a longer distance range for the public mod, but there isn't so no point in complaining about it. As for the proposed long distance ranges and all the other neat stuff in green on that map. Well, ya never know...things can change. That portion is not funded yet, and it may be a year or 2 before it is. I am just happy that there will be a nice place for us to go shoot without having to step over all the crap that gets left in the desert by numb nut shooters.

Ok, that covered many of the usual questions that I get....what else ya got for me

Shooting an UZI from the bench.  Now I love the logic in that.

I guess that means we must shoot the pistols from a bench too?

What?   Are they going to let the kids have the run of the place?

Do these people think that guns just jump up and start off all by themselves.  

So far this sounds like a TRUE GOVERNMENT OPERATION.  Government can't even inflate a tire without an environmental impact statement.
This sounds like a true case of OVER PROMISE and UNDER DELIVER.

Of course pistols will not have to be benched...you should be happy that the county is building this for "US", why some folks just can't resist being negative about everything is beyond me...hopefully you'll change your mind and join the rest of us who are happy abut it, all are welcome. Where is the over promise part? And do you really think kids will have the run of the place, if you took more time from being silly and negative and put that time into research, you would find that no persons under 18 are allowed without a parent or guardian. Folks, positivity is key, we're getting  shooting park, a nice one...we should all be happy about it.

Most of us are indeed happy about the shooting park, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be able to complain.

I for one think that it is ridiculous that we will only have access to an extremely limited portion of the park while the longer ranges will likely be vacant 95% of the time. I understand giving priority to mil or LE, but to restrict access to those groups only is ignorant. I understand that that is all proposed, but as of now that proposal is the rule, so if we complain about it enough, perhaps we will be allowed access to the 1,200 yard range that we are paying to build.

Not so sure if I am a lil' lost, but the mounted shooting area-

Can I shoot from my horse?

No way holmes...that's for shooting from cars...

You make a decent point, but then I would not be the one to complain too, that would be the park management team...unfortunately I have no say in anything.

BedHead:

Enjoy your time at DS, Rory & his merry bad of socialists will close it as soon as this county run goatfuck is open.  I can just hear that useless bitch Droolin' Chani wailing "But WE GAVE you a place to shoot"...

I have been involved in the shooting sports since before there WAS a GCA 68.  I have yet to see govt. involvment improve things in the firearms community.

So, we will swap ALL of the ranges at DS for what exactly?  30 rifle positions?  30 pistol positions? - unless you are "special", then you will be allowed to shoot longer ranges.   I usually drop my gear on Range 3 at DS.  There will be nothing for lowly citizens at the new "park" that even comes close to the course of fire on ranges 7, 8 & 9 at DS.

I have watched county ranges get "managed" right into the ground. Eaton Canyon. A beautiful range, built with tax dollars.  Tunnels built to 100 yards, with pits to change targets. Very safe. Set up & run by gun people initally. Eventually  managed by imbeciles from the department of Parks & Recreation.  The place sprouted stupid rules like weeds. "Load only 5 rounds in any revolver".  The usual "NO Rapid firing".  Caliber restrictions, black powder restrictions, etc.  Then the imbeciles decided that "Line Breaks" were needed. 20 minutes out of every hour. Even though targets could be changed on the range live.  Then the hours of operation were "adjusted".  Sundays became 4 hours, then closed all together.  Eventually open only six hours a day, tuesday to saturday.  

They finally closed the facility to the public. The county still maintains it, and the police still get to use it.  The public pays for yet another "benefit" they can't use.

I have seen the same thing happen at several ranges over the years.  One of the few that did not go down the toilet is Ben Avery. It is not terrible, but my experience there at an FCSA match was not plesant. I have nothing nice to say about Don Turner either.


For me the new "park" is twice as far away as DS, and it will not offer what I use at DS now.  I seriously doubt that it will be further developed as shown in the plans.  Take a hard look at Sunset Park.  There was a plan & money to finish it, but the drooling socialists on the county comission diverted the funds to help the homeless - and other bullshit.  Future funds for the shooting park will likely be mismanaged in the same fashion.

Nope, no fan of the new "park" here. I just want to go shoot when I have the time, and not be bothered.  30 rifle benches?  There are more at DS, and I avoid weekends because they get so busy...

Lem

This

Hmmm...ok then

Well, you wanted honesty. I fear I have similar concerns as Lem. I'm being very cautiously optimistic about the park, but in all honesty, I think it is a precursor to killing all existing private shooting clubs and, ultimately, enacting a ban on all shooting on public lands.

Once that is locked in, machineguns will be the first to go. Then any 50bmgs. Then the rapid fire limits will kick in. Then we'll all be waiting in line for three hours to load one round at a time into our AR15's. Suppressor bans will hit next, but due to noise concerns, the park hours will slowly be narrowed. Before you know it, we'll be forced to buy the park's lead free ammo. I'm certainly not convinced that the park will ever get the budget it needs to complete.

This is what has come up in every conversation with anyone I've ever talked to about the new shooting park.

In no way am I putting down your volunteer efforts there. To be honest, if it were a little closer than "as far as is possible to be from me and still be in Las Vegas," I would consider volunteering there as well, so I could at least keep an eye on what was going on there and to try to make it the best park it can be under the circumstances. I've just learned to be skeptical about such things.

-Caver

duplicate. oh for the love of...

duplicate. apparently I haven't had my coffee yet.

duplicate. disregard.

duplicate. disregard.

Haha, long morning already?

The things Caver mentioned also come up in most conversations I have about the shooting park. It really seems like the only reason the libs are not kicking and screaming is because they're looking forward to outlawing shooting on all public lands justifying it by repeatedly screaming "you guys wanted a shooting place, so we built you one, what else do you want from us?"

First, please understand that everything I say is only my opinion and not that of the park. I in no way speak for them as I am only a humble volunteer and have no authority there at all.

That being said, Carver, please hear me with an open mind. Respectfully, I do not agree with you, and find fears like those to me are nearing rampant paranoia. Though I am not the biggest fan of our government and the way they do things, if a private club goes under than is it fair to blame the county, especially when it hasn't happened yet. To me it's utterly ludicrous to get all bent about something that has yet to happen...the earth could be hit by a meteor today...so why are we all not upset by that? There is no evidence that supports anything you and some others fear, if somethings gonna happen then it will happen. There was supposed to be a massive gun ban the day after the inauguration...prices on firearms soared due to the fear of the big ban....and still no ban, and still we pay super high prices, that is when we can find something in stock...all this fear has made a mess of things. And too many people choose to live by the fear of what "might" happen instead of dealing what what does happen.  If folks would take all that energy they put into worrying about what might happen, getting all mad about is and freaking out, and put that same energy into enjoying what they do and can have...things might be a little better in my book. I understand what it is to be skeptical, I am too about some things, but I try my best not to let it ruin my day. I don't see any closuer of the public lands either as I talked to someone at blm asking that same question, and the person there said no...public land is public land until it is bought or designated as a preserve. Part of the sloan area was closed, yet still there is plenty of space there for us to shoot as well as the area off N95. You guys should feel really lucky that you have any blm land to shoot on at all. Most places in the country are not as desolate as Nevada, where I grew up in PA the only places to shoot were the rod and gun clubs, and there was 1 public range that had a 100yrd rifle with 8 benches and one bench for pistol....that was it! And yet here, suer we have to drive a hike, but there are still tons of places that we can go when most others in other states can go knowhere but to a private club, we have options...most do not....so how lucky are we?

All I am saying is be glad for what we do have and try and focus on what could be and maybe do something about it in stead of complaining about something that has not happened...I volunteer at the park beause it's close, it's nice to be involved in my community and I will be able to go there and shot where it's nice and most importantly safe. Sure i like going out to some of the desert spots, but those spots would be much better if most of the others that went out there were not stupid morons who leave all their crap al over the place, broken glass, tv's, garbage, appliances....and all that other crap that's left out there, shooting like children and just being a-holes in general...but it's not likely that it will stop....in fact...if blm does decide to close our desert shooting spots. most likely it be because of all the trash that if left out there. I talked to a guy out at sloan a few days ago as he was packing his truck, I thanked him for taking his junk back home with him and he told me that once in a while blm cleaned up those spots and he said the eventually they might get sick of doing it and just close them down....So maybe we should all take stock of our freedom to shoot out in the desert, park or no park and try to keep it clean so that it stays open....just a thought.

BLM can and does close down public lands to shooters. Here's an NRA article that a quick search returned (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=2863). No offense, but nobody from the BLM is going to tell a shooter who volunteers at the shooting park that they are going to close down the land to shooters, they just quietly do it. As for private clubs being shut down, it almost happened last month! The county threatened to not renew DS permit to operate. I'm not as well versed in all the details as some others here, but from what I know, the county granted a 5 year permit instead of the typical 10 year permit. I'd bet a large sunm of money that at the end of that 5 years, DS will be no more. I guarantee that I'm not the only one to think this. Read back a few posts to the post about the other .gov run shooting park that was run into the ground as well. As much as it may seem like they are doing us a favor with the shooting park, they are not.

Sorry, but I can't help but to be cynical when dealing with the gov.

Well, I might be wrong about a few things then, but I am sure if we all did our part to keep the desert spots clean it might make blm happy, we as shooters are already looked down upon by the government...why not try and make ourselves look better instead of like a bunch of slobs and litterbugs. Why should they care about us when we don't even care about the places we go to shoot. As for the clubs, I don't use them, but I know many do...it would be a shame if any closed....but what can the owners or members do? If there is something they can do then they should do it. Basically I just don't see the point in worrying about something that has not happened yet, when it looks like something will happen then I will worry and try and act, until then I just wanna go shoot.

I don't think anyone here believes you are anything but a proud volunteer who is trying to reach out to the shooting community. We'll try not to blame you if everything goes sideways. ;-)



Desert Sportsman just BARELY got its lease extended, and even then for only half the time that was anticipated. It was made pretty clear that Desert Sportsman is on borrowed time, and that they're going to have their work cut out for them in five years when it is up for renewal again.

And we're not talking about meteor hits. Of course it is ridiculous to worry about that. But considering the current environment, I think it is equally silly to not discuss, debate, and plan for––or at least consider––the possibility that the shooting park could be a precursor to restricting where we are allowed to shoot. Blissfully ignoring the possibility that we may have problems only guarantees that any problems that do arise will simply broadside us, with no time to react or counter.



Anyone that thinks our liberal controlled government, with our new rapidly anti-gun president and his rapidly anti-gun cronnies don't have sweeping and crippling gun bans in the works is fooling themselves. We should be happy that this realization has shocked people to mobilize. But they have time, and they're more than happy to wait a few years when the economy settles down and everyone starts thinking "Maybe we were wrong after all!" They know our guard is up right now.

I would rather plan for the worst, and be pleasantly surprised, than ignore the coming storm and find my world ripped out from under me.



I don't want to give the impression that I am sitting here freaked out that the day the shooting park opens, no shooting signs are going to pop up across the valley and all the private clubs are going to be shut down. That isn't the case at all!



So you're saying, you were assured that public land stays public land until it is no longer public land? They shut down Sloan––the safest and one of the best shooting spots in the south––to allow a company to set up a gravel mine at the site of a failed gravel mine. And guess what? They're no longer mining gravel there. Now we're all pushed six miles further south, right in shooting distance (pun intended!) of where the Jean air terminal is planned. How much longer do you think it is going to be legal to shoot anywhere to the south of Las Vegas?



I hate this type of logic. Somewhere else is all screwed up, so we should be happy we still have the rights we do? In ten years, how far are we going to have to drive to get to all those "wide open" spaces? A few "preserves" placed in the right locations, designate a few areas as non-vehicle wilderness, and before you know it we're driving four hours. Just in the last seven years, the time it takes me to get to a spot I can shoot has tripled. What will the next seven years bring?

We need to jealously guard every right, every shooting spot, and every last square foot of public land. If we don't, in ten years you're going to be telling me how lucky we are that we can drive a mere three hours to find a place to shoot, but come on over to the shooting park––the wait for a lane at the shooting park dropped to only two hours after they raised the fee and we're still allowed to shoot there on Wednesday because the police don't use the range that day. You should feel lucky! In PA, they only have two benches open for the entire state, and you can only shoot airsoft!

I don't mean to sound like a jerk about it, but I don't want to be saying in ten years "Well, at least we have the shooting park!" The only way to ensure that doesn't happen, is to have a bit of healthy paranoia, and try to anticipate problems early before they become problems.



Once again, I'm not criticizing your volunteerism! I would volunteer there, too, if it were closer. I have a very long history of volunteering thousands of hours for the park service.



You're not doing a good job of convincing me that the shooting park isn't going to be all we're going to have in a few years! It sounds like you're already justifying its loss by saying there are a bunch of morons out there that make it not as pleasant. Then you suggest those morons and their litter is what is going to potentially close shooting on public lands. You also throw in the whole "safety" factor for good measure.

I'm not specifically against the shooting park. I would even consider myself a supporter. I just want to make sure that it is just one of many options for shooting in Clark County, not the only option! I'm not expecting problems, but I do believe we could end up having them if we don't keep our eyes open. At the very least, we need to consider all the possibilities.

It's the same reason we carry guns. We don't expect problems. But we do acknowledge the possibility, and would rather be prepared to act if necessary than close our eyes and hope nothing happens.

-Caver

I believe there's a big reason DS's permit was only renewed for 5 years this time, and it has less to do with developments currently in place, and more to do with being able to deny it sooner once the shooting park is open.  THEN it will have to do with prospective development aka tax revenues.



While I'm happy the shooting park is finally coming (somewhat) to fruition, I also see it as an excuse for the local governments to finally exercise total control over the local outdoor shooting areas.



As of now, DS has more available, and less restrictions.  Not to mention being cheaper than what the county park will be.  I think other than a few things here and there, DS will continue to get the bulk of our business.



That being said, I really am glad that the shooting park is opening.  While it isn't my cup of tea, it can be a good thing for others.  At least until the government uses it as an axe for any private outdoor ranges in the county (
), and/or uses it to block more BLM land from being used.

Carver, you make some good points, and I can see how what I am saying can be taken, wrong...but still you make good points...I do really hate all the crap that is left out in the desert, and I hate as much the idiots that leave it there. I do not agree that the desert spots are safe at all, I have run into and have had to leave many times because of idiots shooting like they were playing army or something. I do from time to time run into really nice folks but there are very dangerous shooters out there that have no clue. Anyway, thank you for the discussion...I am going back out to do some yard work on the really nice day.

It's that concept that shooting in the desert isn't safe which is ultimately going to be the end of things. That we need a government nanny watching over us to be safe shooters is completely untrue, and is something the anti-gunners love to spout. Sure, there are some people who aren't safe, but in seven years of shooting out in the desert, I've only left a spot once because of it. And even then, it was more a sense that things may get unsafe than any particular act; I didn't wait for it to become unsafe before I left.

The garbage, half of it isn't left by the shooters anyway. People dump illegally, and then the shooters shoot at the stuff. Makes it look like we're to blame for all of it. That said, I've volunteered for a cleanup out here in the past. I would like to do it again sometime. It's always good to have contacts with the rangers, and to recognized as a non-idiot. :)

Anyway, hope we didn't chase you off. I just like to keep my guard up. Condition yellow, and all that. Works the same in "real life" as it does in politics. You don't know when to go to condition orange unless you're always in condition yellow, keeping an eye on what is going on around you and assessing potential threats as they cross your path. Jumping from white to red in real life will get you killed, same as in politics.

I did have two legitimate questions, though:

1. What sort of fees will be involved in using the park, and will there be a membership?
2. If there is a membership, will the park register with the CMP?

-Caver

Not chased off, I'm here to stay...just very opinionated. And busy with yard work...uhggg
As for the CMP thing, I have no idea, it'd be nice if they did though.
Fees for park are as follows.
$7 for the day for the shooter, not shooters guests unless they are shooting, so it's not a cover charge as such if you are going to be shooting they you pay, if not then you don't...fair enough I think. And the fee applies to everything but the shotgun clays range, that has a separate fee structure that I don't remember, but from what other trap and skeet guys tell me it's a fair price..with clays included.

There will be no memberships as it is a public facility, I have heard talk of a buy a bunch of days get one free kind of thing, but not sure if it's a go or not.
So if you just want to go shoot rifle and or pistol it's $7 for the whole day you're there.

Ok, gotta run to the nursery now...back later.

Thanks for answering my questions, roadie - don't take my ire as anything personal.  I'm not shooting the messenger.  

The two bolded replies are exactly why I will never waste my money there and instead continue to pay the $150 to DSRPC even though the shooting park would be a 5 min drive from my house vs 30 min for DSRPC.  They expect you to use common sense there and treat you like an adult instead of having to have your hand held at this public range.  And no human shaped targets??? WTF?  Are we afraid we might offend some fucking tree-hugging liberal that comes out to a shooting park?  As if the sight of an M4 is not enough to send them into a tizzy?  That's some BS right there.  Jesus, I cannot convey the disgust that I feel for this kind of out of control political correctness run-amok!

edit:  forgot to add.... what's wrong with spraying bullets DOWN RANGE?  That's the whole point of "down range" isn't it?  Shooting in positions other than benched doesn't imply in ANY way acting irresponsibly, as you imply roadie.

Ah.... the good ol' DIVIDE & CONQUER.

Everyone and I mean everyone has a valid point in this.

No human shaped targets huh.  

I was actually just out there on Monday doing a function check of a new upper and I had the place to myself.  But I too hate all the garbage that's left there and have been wondering about organizing a clean-up one weekend.  How was the clean-up effort you refer to organized?

It was organized by one of the rangers who knew us when we used to shoot out at "the pit" at the Sloan exit. They paid for the dumpster and coordinated having it dropped off and picked up. I'm not sure when I'm going to have time to make some inquiries, but if I find some time during the day, I'll see what I can find out.

-Caver

I can can see the range from my backyard. The more I save on gas the more I can spend on ammo, plus if I want to go shoot its as closer then going to walmart. At this point I am going to keep an open mind and hope for the best.

Anyone else live in the Decatur and Horse area?

I was truly excited about this new shooting park being built, but with only 200 yards and 60 total lanes avail, that range will be packed...No human shaped targets, no rapid fire, sounds more like day care then a damn range...

When i first heard about it it was supposed to be a place with hundreds of shooting lanes and targets out to 1200 yards, tactical ranges, pistol plate ranges etc... and for 64,000,000 we got 30-50 yard,15-100yard and 15-200yard ranges and a convenience store...

I have to say that i am underwhelmed. It is alot closer then the other 2 ranges and screw shooting indoors, but for 64,000,000.37 you would think that they would have been able to get more built...

On the surface what you're saying may SEEM to be true, but it's not.  The fears that are being voiced in this thread are very real and very justified.  We're talking about a shooting park being built and run by Clark County, the most anti-gun county in the state of Nevada.  (And it's getting more anti-gun every day.)  Not sure how long you've lived here, but to say Clark County has moved to the left is the understatement of the year.  Most everyone on this thread has seen the depths to which the anti-gunners will stoop to push their agenda.  Just look at your very own park if you want an example; there's a VERY stark difference between what was promised to us in the beginning and what is turning out to be the reality.  So why on Earth should any of us believe that Clark County really does have the interest of shooters at heart when everything they've done in the past decade or so has proven to be the opposite?  The last time an enemy came bearing a gift it was a giant wooden horse.  You may have heard how that turned out for the recipient of the gift.

Ok, so being that I have not lived in this county for very long, only 6 years...please tell me exactly what makes Clark County the Most anti gun county in the state, and also please give as many verifiable and factual examples as you can. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, I just want the full jist of where you're coming from. Is that fair?

Will there be ranges where you can practice shooting and moving drills? Will there be steel targets?