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Posted: 9/13/2006 9:23:17 AM EDT
[#1]
howdy!
Just a quick note, I was under the impression that American Shooters also had the usual pistols, rifles, and Full auto weapons for rental use on the range. Their website lists a few at the Arville store and the Boulder Hwy store has an HK UMP. If that has changed, please let me know! Thanks |
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Posted: 9/13/2006 9:26:06 AM EDT
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P.S.
CCW Instructor Mary Cartagena Range Master NRA-LE Instructor and CCW American Shooters 1212 Boulder Hwy Henderson, NV 89015 |
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Posted: 9/17/2006 2:39:21 PM EDT
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Why would I or anyone else here give or money to a jackass like the owner of American Shooters Supply better known as ASS?  www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Sep-17-Sun-2006/news/9546008.html JUDICIAL 'JUICE' ALLEGED: Activist criticizes early release Drunken driving suspect out of jail much faster than most Ron Montoya Prominent local businessman arrested in connection with drunken driving By MOLLY BALL REVIEW-JOURNAL Advertisement When Ron Montoya was pulled over on suspicion of drunken driving, the prominent local businessman asked the highway patrolman, "Do you know who I am?" The trooper wasn't sympathetic. But a local judge was, an anti-drunken driving advocacy group alleges. Montoya owns American Shooters, a longtime local gun store and shooting range that works closely with law enforcement. He was pulled over about 6:30 a.m. on Aug. 27 for speeding, blowing through three stop signs and veering between lanes, according to the report on his arrest. He then failed all field sobriety tests. But after his arrest, Montoya got out of jail much faster than most people arrested in connection with drunken driving, thanks to a municipal judge making an exception to the court's usual policy. A local activist is questioning whether it was a classic case of Vegas "juice" -- judges giving preferential treatment to their cronies or the influential. The judge and Montoya's lawyer say nothing improper took place, but they say they can't explain what really happened because the case still is pending. "A drunk driver, a potential killer, a despicable impostor of humanity released before the paperwork was completed! That speaks volumes!" Sandy Heverly, executive director of STOP DUI wrote in a letter to Las Vegas Municipal Judge Cedric Kerns that was independently acquired by the Review-Journal. "It appears the city jail has a revolving door that is well oiled. ... This situation begs the question of how often are these 'special considerations' extended, and is it the norm of the Las Vegas Municipal Court judiciary?" Kerns said it was all a misunderstanding, but one that he wasn't allowed to publicly explain. "I did not waive the 12 hours," he said, referring to the standard amount of time that court policy requires those arrested in connection with drunken driving to be jailed unless a judge makes an exception. "That was a miscommunication between me and (the jail's) intake. But even if I did, there wouldn't be a problem with that." Montoya spent about five hours in jail. According to the arrest report, early on a Sunday morning, Highway Patrol trooper Raymond Pedraza was drinking coffee at a Starbucks in a Summerlin shopping center when he saw a silver Cadillac Escalade speeding through the lot, then ignoring three stop signs. Pedraza got in his patrol car and followed the SUV, watching it veer between lanes at 60 mph in a 45 mph zone. At Town Center and Covington Cross drives, Pedraza pulled the Cadillac over. The driver had bloodshot eyes and was chewing gum, he noticed. When he asked the driver, Ron Montoya, to get out of the car, he got a strong whiff of alcohol "from his breath/person." Montoya said he hadn't been drinking, then failed a horizontal-gaze sobriety test. Then he admitted he'd had one beer. Then, according to the report, "Montoya asked me, 'Do you know who I am?' and I told him no, all I knew was his name. He stated to me he was the owner of American Shooters, that he supported 'you guys' with uniforms, guns and a range. He also pleaded with me to let him go, that he lived just up the street, was there any way to get out of this. "He also stated that all his family was law enforcement or involved with law enforcement in some way. He apologized for his driving and said he would let someone else drive, just let him go home up the street." Pedraza then asked Montoya to blow into a breath device, but Montoya didn't blow strongly enough to register on it, which Pedraza interpreted as deliberate noncompliance, according to the report. Montoya then failed the "walk and turn one leg stand" test, and that's when Pedraza handcuffed him and took him into custody. Montoya stands charged with five moving violations -- driving under the influence, speeding, failing to maintain a travel lane, failing to stop at a stop sign and failing to signal a lane change. All are misdemeanors. He is scheduled to appear in court on Nov. 20 for arraignment. Montoya did not return calls seeking comment. His lawyer, Luis Rojas, said he would not allow Montoya to speak but he planned to enter a plea of not guilty. What happened after Montoya was put in jail is murky. Las Vegas' six municipal judges have all signed a court order establishing the 12-hour hold for those arrested in connection with drunken driving, which only a judge can waive. It is a matter of court policy, not statute. Kerns says that in this case, he did initially waive the hold. But then he changed his mind, he said, for reasons he said he couldn't talk about. "I waived it initially," he said. "But after speaking to the trooper, I decided not to. I called the defense attorney and said, he's not getting out. But the message didn't get through" to the jail staff, who went ahead with the release. Court papers show that Kerns waived the hold, but there is no notation that this was reversed. In any case, Kerns said, a judge has every right to waive the 12-hour hold. He said he'd done it about four times in the past year, always in cases where an attorney was coming to pick up the accused. After that, Kerns recused himself. That's what judges do when some kind of conflict of interest, such as a personal relationship, prevents them from hearing a case impartially, but they don't have to explain why they're recusing. Kerns said his recusal came about because Pedraza had given him information about the case that he shouldn't have known. "The trooper gave me some independent facts of the case that I shouldn't know before trial," he said. "I can't hear it anymore." The case is now in Municipal Chief Judge Toy Gregory's court. Kerns said he couldn't talk about that conversation with Pedraza. "I can't comment on a pending case," he said. "The city attorney told me not to talk about it." Heverly said Montoya shouldn't have been released. She said the 12-hour policy is in place to protect the public by making drunks dry out. "There's no guarantee, after he gets picked up, that the attorney makes sure he sobers up," she said. "What if he got his car back and injured or killed someone?" She questioned whether the personal relationships Montoya alluded to in his conversation with Pedraza had something to do with what she labeled special treatment. Montoya's gun shop does have about 20 pending contracts with the Metropolitan Police Department for a variety of equipment, including badges, shirts and handguns, the department's budget director, Janelle Kraft, said. Since most of the contracts were for less than $25,000, they didn't go through a bidding process, she said. It couldn't be immediately determined whether Montoya had similar ties to the Highway Patrol. In addition, Montoya's lawyer, Rojas, has twice contributed to Kerns' election coffers, $200 each in 2000 and 2005. Rojas said those were token amounts and he contributes to many judges' campaigns. Both Rojas and Kerns said they do not know each other or Montoya socially, although Kerns acknowledged he knew who Montoya was. "I know Mr. Montoya because he owns American Shooters, and that's where I got my concealed weapons permit," Kerns said. "I don't hang out with him." Rojas said he, too, believed there was a mix-up at the jail but couldn't talk about the facts of the case. "The judge talked to me and told me specifically, 'He cannot be let out of jail for 12 hours.' I said, 'Thank God, I don't want to go pick him up at 7 a.m.,' and got back in bed with my wife. The next thing I know, a few hours later I get a call from the jail saying he's ready to go." |
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Posted: 10/2/2006 2:45:59 PM EDT
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I back up what Wolf says as well. A.S.S. is not worth supporting.
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Posted: 10/17/2006 5:52:21 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever been to Long Mountain Outfitters (LMO) in Henderson?
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Posted: 1/15/2007 1:47:18 PM EDT
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They do not have a storefront
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Posted: 1/21/2007 12:16:12 PM EDT
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Request. Can chiz45's sticky post be annotated with which dealers are Class III? Also, addition of Henderson Defense contact info?
Thanks....  _ |
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Posted: 2/6/2007 3:43:31 PM EDT
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Going to be a Neveda resident soon. So where are your guy's favorite places?
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Posted: 2/6/2007 7:16:02 PM EDT
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Pedro66 hasn't give me his contact info yet! As for class3 dealers, i haven't been to all of these stores, so i'm not sure. I'll edit to add the new info if you guys let me know which is which. |
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Posted: 2/9/2007 12:08:22 PM EDT
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I will visit Las Vegas during March. Is there or in the neighborhood an outdoor! shooting range where tourists can rent (machine) guns? Or are there any persons offering such a trip?
Thanks |
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Posted: 2/14/2007 5:58:26 PM EDT
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Check the first post at the top of this thread. |
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Posted: 2/15/2007 4:30:26 AM EDT
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All of the places above are indoor. EACH site has a website, you can probably call them or visit their website for additional information. |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 7:36:55 AM EDT
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Store with Gear and Guns (Class 3 also)
Absolute Equipment 4310 Losee Rd Ste #2 North Las Vegas, Nv 89030 702-651-6693 www.absolute-equipment.com |
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Posted: 5/29/2007 6:42:53 AM EDT
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Who's the best place to deal with to get pistol ammo somewhat near the LV strip?
Any big box (walmart) type places that sell ammo? Looks as if The Gun Store is closest to where I'm staying. Do they have reasonable ammo prices? Thanks. EDIT: 6-13-07 Found ammo at Bass Pro shops off Blue Diamond road. Look for discount coupons in the LV strip guides. .45 ammo was $10 higher than walmart for the 100rnd value packs. The gun store ammo price was decent, but not a lot of selection. I did not check for ammo at the walmart on Sunset Rd. near the highway. |
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Posted: 6/16/2007 4:18:15 PM EDT
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OK, this fall my wife and I are flying to Vegas for a couple days. My wife likes the slots, but I don't gamble. Sooo, I think I'll drop a hundred or so renting a M16 and some ammo.
Which of the above listed places would you spend your hard earned money at? Any better than the others? Let me know. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/28/2007 5:27:12 AM EDT
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Holy crap................I will be in Vegas in 2 weeks, and I know where I am gonna spend some money!!!
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Posted: 11/9/2007 4:08:27 PM EDT
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updated listings, added firearm training groups.
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Posted: 11/9/2007 9:02:56 PM EDT
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Vegas gun stores are the most over price stores in the whole country. On top of that you got to pay 7.75% sales tax. Colt 6920's for $1700, XCR's for $1600, and $60 Airsoft Molle gear for $130.
Then you have the hired help at these gun stores. One guy tells me I should not shoot 7.62 NATO ammo in my M1A because the pressure is too high. Then another guy telling me that the Colt 6920 in their store is LEO marked and his a real deal, while the Colt 6920's I see on the web are civvie versions.I quit going to the gun stores in Vegas all together. If I have the urge to fondle guns, I will just go to the Vegas gun shows. No complaints about the gun shows in Vegas though, where there are actually some decent pricing if you shop around. 
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Posted: 11/10/2007 9:06:28 AM EDT
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I haven't payed state tax on a firearm since 2005 when I supported a couple of local shops for 2 SIG 226 9mm purchases. Buying online has it's advantages; 1) lower price, 2) no state tax, 3) you've already [done] your research so you don't have to speak / listen to any over the counter commando on their "opinion", 4) arguably a better warranty, avenue for recourse if anything goes wrong.
I now use local shops for FFL fees. I don't buy my ammo there. I don't purchase firearms there. I don't browse there. I haven't found any 'smiths to use either. Since this thread dosen't list The Gun Vault, Inc., aka Machinegun Kellys, they charge me $20.00 for a straight stick FFL transfer, and $50.00 for an NFA transfer. I walk in, I fill out the 4473, I walk out. Granted, intermixed in there I have to deal with the kids, but it's still: simple, easy, effective. [ edit - sp ]
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Posted: 11/21/2007 2:02:26 AM EDT
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WP,
Please lock this thread and keep it as a "Tack/Informational" thread only. Just a suggestion. Be Safe. Joe |
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Posted: 11/21/2007 7:07:04 AM EDT
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Joe,
i've been adding info to it periodically. If it's locked, can i still add?
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Posted: 11/21/2007 7:14:16 AM EDT
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why should it be locked? you guys don't want to hear my experiences at vegas gun stores?
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Posted: 11/24/2007 9:56:13 AM EDT
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Chiz, I'm not sure if you can still have access or not. You'll need to check with WP on that. |
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Posted: 11/25/2007 3:32:39 PM EDT
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If it's locked Chiz can't add stuff. After the first of the year I'm planning on doing a major revamp of the info and look of our forum anyways. Edit all you want now Kalani so I have the newest info once I do that.
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Posted: 11/30/2007 2:23:53 PM EDT
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stopped by the Gun Store on thanksgiving week end...left with a big smile
 ..pricey though...45 bux for rental + 2 mags ( pmags btw)..my sister in law shot the MP5..she had fun too. |
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Posted: 12/6/2007 9:00:09 PM EDT
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Update on my Vegas Gun Store visits....
Stopped by Black Armory Rifle and have to say, they are better stocked this time, and their prices were pretty decent. So here is one store in Vegas is not over priced  Also staff was friendly and were not "bone headed" know it alls like some of the other stores I won't mention.
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Posted: 12/13/2007 5:45:46 AM EDT
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I was in Henderson on business in September and dropped by, noticing the marked trailer off the road. It's in a nondescript office park. I'd have to agree that it's nicely stocked with handguns and assorted long guns. I remember two Sig 556s, one plain Jane and the other decked out with an EoTech and a 3 or 4x flip to the side magnifier. Staff was very friendly and good guys. I'd go there again next time. |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 4:40:02 PM EDT
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Stopped by The Gun Store with my father in law and sister in law, SoCal natives that they are. MG rentals blew their mind. My FIL and I shared 100 rounds of Thompson, and my SIL broke in her NIB Glock 17. Range space is hard to come by in their AO. It was the day after New Year's so the tourist crowd (like I have room to talk) had dissipated
The range officer and I had been in the same AO on OIF1, so I had no problem doing my own mag change on the Thompson. There was one bad mag, and he handled my FIL's malfunction drills for "liability reasons". Fair enough. Given what ammo prices have done, I have no complaints what they have to charge to stay in business. Once we were done with the Tommy, they left us alone so I could deal with the SIL and her Glock. She did quite well. |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 9:59:25 AM EDT
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Yea I cant stand the stores here either. I admitedly have not been to all of them but a good portion ofthem and was not impressed on what is stocked their prices or all the wrong information they keep blurting out. the internet is my gun store.
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