Practical Shotgun Match at South Mountain Sunday July 25th  8:00 AM.

I believe the match fee was $15.00 last time I shot it.   A couple of the 100 round bird shot value packs from Walmart and a couple boxes of slugs should be able to get you through it safely.

www.phoenixrodandgun.org/

Hope to see some of you guys there.

so anyone coming or are you all going to the fun show?

South Mountain Practical Shotgun Match Pics and Vids:

This was the first time I’ve shot this particular match.  It’s held every alternating 4th Sunday (every other month is 3 Gun) at the South Mountain Range in Phoenix.  They only have two practical bays there but they squeezed four stages onto them by having two sets of targets to shoot.

It was a fairly light turn out today, I think the heat, humidity (monsoon season), and the gun show took away a lot of people that would normally show up.  This was nice though because the match was finished in only about 2 hours.

Brad (TheFNG) and Chris Joined me today.  Brad shot his Remington 870 security model and Chris borrowed my SBS SST-870 (he’ll be purchasing it when he turns 21 later in August).  This was Chris’ first practical match, he did very well for his first time out.

I shot the match with my 20” SST-870 with OKO sight.  I shot the match wearing my Interceptor vest today for a couple reasons.

1) Spec Ops Brand sent us a new belt that interfaces with the interceptor to try out.  I tried it out, hanging a dump pouch of shot shells, pistol mag pouch, and holster on it.  I really liked it, it was comfortable to wear, and I think it will give interceptor users a great capacity for carrying gear and increased modularity.
2) I keep the interceptor in my trunk for potential “oh shit” situations, and its been over a year since I wore it in the AZ heat.  Its good to know how I shoot with it on, and how long I can stand being in it.  I wore it for the whole match, it got pretty hot….but my sweat did what it was supposed to do, keep my cool.  I think that I probably need to drink close to a gallon of water an hour wearing it in 100+ temps.  

I shudder to think what its like wearing one in temperatures close to 30 degrees hotter in Iraq…cheers to the members of our armed forces for doing an dangerous, unpleasant job.

Pics from the match:



Chris (left) and Brad (right) on stage 1/2



Brad, got to play “range nazi” for a while today…fear the clip board, “THERE WILL BE ORDER!”



me good to go, stewing inside the interceptor.



the interceptor with the S.O.B. interceptor battle belt attached.



some of the guns competitors were using.

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It was a fun match…it was kind of cool to have an all shotgun match for a change, definitely going to be shooting this one again.

Quoted: Sinistral: Who makes the vertical grip for your shotgun shown in the pic? Are they available at CavArms?    I have a Win1300 that I would like to try that on. How does it work out for you?   Faster/more comfortable then the standard fore end grip?

Its the surefire M69 railed fore end, with falcon vertical grip and coyote rail pannel covers.  I don't think they make one for the winchester.  They are available for the Remington and Mossberg...Shooter's World carries them.

The main things I like the vertical grip for are:

1) using it as a monopod for long range slug targets
2) using it to shoot the gun off my shoulder around cover, left or right handed
3) ease of cycling the gun with only one hand (drag or rake the slide against cover or part of your body)

Quoted: Never noticed your left handed.

entries found for Sinistral.
sin·is·tral    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (sn-strl, s-nstrl)
adj.
1)Of or facing the left side.
2) Left-handed.

Quoted: Looks like a good time. I am rubbing my shoulder right now from a shotgun stage in the IPSC match I shot at Blackwater USA yesterday. I had to laugh when you said the humidty kept some people away. It rain like a bitch on us almost all day.

humidity and 110 degree heat sucks!  There was a nice breeze most of yesterday though so it wasn't too bad.

The next 3 gun we have I am going tap my CAV  for duty.  I will try to get some pics of it in action.

cool.....it'd be nice to have some competition pics of people other than us using our products, to put on the site's galleries

Quoted: It looks to me like somebody with a detachable mag shotgun would have a huge advantage, I'm guessing that the timer was still running during all those mag changes (It looked like he was still timing). Is there a different class for semi auto shotguns w/ a detachable mag?

mag fed shotguns are in open class....in open class almost anything goes.  Because I am using a dot sight on my shotgun, I have to shoot in open class.  Reloading on the shotgun stages is what eats up most of your time, whoever can load the fastest or starts off with the most shells in the gun is the winner often, if they hit all the targets.

tactical class shotguns must have a 22" barrel and 23" magazine tube or less, iron sights only, no speed loaders.

Quoted: Thanx, I figured it had to be something like that, otherwise a guy with a $200 Saiga could completely run over the top of somebody With a Rem 870.

A lot of people tried using saigas when they came out, not many stuck with them.  They're fine for stages that require all birdshot....if you have to change loads, it makes it a lot harder to use them effectively.

Quoted: Cool, more info, thank you. Would you mind esplaning the problem? would you just need to carry mags with different loads? Also I'm sure the 5 round mags they have now are also limiting, maybe if we could get the 8 round mags. I'm more or less just curious about this, my next purchase is gonna be one of the 870P's with the 20" barrel that CDNN has, I'd rather have an 18" for a house sweeper, but at $219, it a good deal for something to build on.

5 round mags are the problem....changing them usually takes as long as loading several shells.  Since you are in open class with a mag fed shotgun, and using 5 round mags  the people using 4 round tec-loaders for their tube fed guns are going to stomp your ass (as long as they are good with using the tec-loaders).  Changing the mag is definitely slower than loading one of an individual type of shell.

if a match director wanted to, they could set up a stage with every other round shot then slug to screw with people using mag fed shotguns....sure, you could stagger them in the magazine, but if you miss a shot, you are screwed.  Shooting a slug at the wrong target, can result in a severe penalty or at worse a match DQ.

Match Results...

Place Name Class Time
1 Gary M Limited 87.34
2 Mark T Open 100.66
3 Mike E Limited 102.69
4 Bob H Limited 119.99
5 Heath A Limited 120.87
6 Brad R Pump 130.56
7 Joe W Open 142.02
8 Russell P Open 162.19
9 Brad R Limited 162.21
10 Candy L Limited 171.97
11 Roger T Limited 174.72
12 Brad O Pump 208.58
13 Charles C Pump 225.01
14 Jim E Pump 242.49
15 Dave B Limited 246.59
16 Chris B Open 280.5
17 Steve C Pump 540.82

By Class:

Place Name Class Time
1 Gary M Limited 87.34
3 Mike E Limited 102.69
4 Bob H Limited 119.99
5 Heath A Limited 120.87
9 Brad R Limited 162.21
10 Candy L Limited 171.97
11 Roger T Limited 174.72
15 Dave B Limited 246.59

2 Mark T Open 100.66
7 Joe W Open 142.02
8 Russell P Open 162.19
16 Chris B Open 280.5


6 Brad R Pump 130.56
12 Brad O Pump 208.58
13 Charles C Pump 225.01
14 Jim E Pump 242.49
17 Steve C Pump 540.82


I really hate having to be in open class just because I have a dot sight on my shotgun sometimes....it's hard to be competitive shooting against people using autoloaders with 11+ shot tubes, tec-loaders etc.  Being competitive isn't what I'm there for though.  Beat all the pump guys save one, and half the limited (tactical auto-loader) guys