User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 5:28:45 AM EDT
[#1]
below are some highlights of Ca law that can be found at:
ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/index.html No magazines over 10 rounds. No semi-auto rifles with pistol grips and detachable mags No semi-auto rifles with flash hiders and detachable mags (muzzle brakes are OK) No AR or AK of any form, by any maker (FAB-10 and pump-action AK are OK) See list of prohibited assault weapons in the link below ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.htm No SKS with detachable mags No 50BMG rifles No grenade launchers No tracer or armor piercing ammo All handguns you bring have to be registered with Ca DOJ No multi-shot trigger activators |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 6:21:07 AM EDT
[#2]
First of all welcome, there's about 45% of the voting population on your side.
Don't get rid of any firearms, just leave them in a neighboring state if possible. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 7:24:26 AM EDT
[#3]
you will need to register that nutshell with the doj.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 7:41:02 AM EDT
[#4]
Where's the code section that bans SKSes with detachable magazines? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 9:06:25 AM EDT
[#5]
it's somewhere...in the robertee roos.. |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 10:21:29 AM EDT
[#6]
PC §12276 - Assault Weapon means... (a) All of the following specified rifles: ... ... (11) "SKS with detachable magazines" ... |
|||
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 12:41:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Can someone explain what's wrong w/ tracer ammo? Or is there no reason for the ban like all the other laws?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 1:01:50 PM EDT
[#8]
pretty much the latter. though in some places you can't even shoot steel core because it's a fire hazard (can someone explain this to me?) |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 2:00:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks DnPRK and crew.
On the SKS, was it only those with detachable magazines that had to be turned in? I remember reading about a forced turn in and a coupon for ($235?) that they would give you upon turn in. I'll be leaving my NFA up here in Alaska, as well as two SKS-D's, and most of the rest I suppose. I'm going to try and maintain residency in Alaska to avoid some hassles (and taxes) since I am only going to be "home in town" for a couple months a year. However, I am wondering if I don't take up residency in CA if I am still allowed to possess firearms there? I'm sure I can kiss off any chance at a CCW/CCH permit. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 2:48:48 PM EDT
[#10]
Tracers are a fire hazard. Since brushfires cause far more damage in California than the dreaded earthquakes, folks are a little sensitive about other folks shooting incendiary ammunition into chaparral-covered hills. Steel can emit sparks when it hits rocks. Ever seen a truck pulling a trailer with the sfatey chain dragging on the pavement? Sparks flying everywhere. Again, these sparks can set off uncontrollable brushfires when they occur in dry chaparral. There are no state laws about ferrous bullets, but plenty of ranges ban them. And for good reason, since it wouldn't take more than a few nanoseconds for a range to be shut down forever if a brush fire were traced back to it. At the rate ranges are being closed in California, I say we can't be too careful. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 3:36:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Mike, what area will you possibly be staying in?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 4:30:47 PM EDT
[#12]
How about a nice .308 M1A from Springfield Armory? If you don't have that kind of serious scratch how about a .30-06 M1 Garand? There are conversions for the FAL since it wasn't on the by name list. Ten round magazines only unless you were smart enough to mail them here for safe keeping back in 1999 like I did before coming here. There are over a thousand pistols on the "approved" list which like many other states you'll have to register but there is no place (that I know of) that bans pistols.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 4:33:16 PM EDT
[#13]
21 days early with that one aren't ya'? Plenty of time. 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 6:06:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Steel Core (Armor Piercing) ammo ban applies only to Handgun type ammo not long guns.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 6:10:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Good to hear from you again Kisara, IM sent... |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/10/2004 6:19:43 PM EDT
[#16]
caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/12301.htm That quote is taken from the official page, it is at the very top. Also, below the definitions, there is a HUGE list of things you can't do with a "destructive device" that range from buying, selling, transporting, using, having near public buildings like schools, using with intent to injure, etc. I would imagine that would mean it is basically a no-no unless you are a licesned person to own it, and if you were licensed you woulnd't need to ask because you would already know. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 1:49:24 AM EDT
[#17]
Well I finally glanced at some of the laws referenced...
I think I can take from my arsenal: Ruger 10/22 w/factory 10rd mags Mini-14 in standard stock and 10rd mags. Plain Jane Pump Shotty (home defense) M1 Garand or MAS 49/59 converted to .308, if I cut off the grenade launcher (don't think I'll be needed that) 1911 .45 and rimfire conversion kit (must register, though if I don't stay for more than 60 days it's unnecessary) I've got a lot more reading to do, I might be wrong on some of the above. Otherwise I think that will cover my basic need to send Plumbum down range in quick order. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 3:55:07 AM EDT
[#18]
Not all SKS are banned.
If I remember right the only illegal SKSs were if they were: 1. Chinese 2. Russian 3. With detachable magazine 4. With Grenade Launcher You can buy the Yugoslavian SKS here, and I think there was a couple others. I know it is very specific, but it's better than nothing. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 8:02:38 AM EDT
[#19]
Turners was selling Yugo 59's in last week's (or the one before) ad for $199.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 8:38:07 AM EDT
[#20]
you can have any sks that has a fixed mag of 10 rounds or less. no grenade launchers. i have both russian and chinese sks rifles. they are legal in california.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 3:51:40 PM EDT
[#21]
 My bad, when I printed the reference out it cut off the key definition...
So just thre removable magazine versions. Sorry bout that! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 4:02:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Have they banned "the clenched fist" yet? Or do you just have to register it?
That, and "a harsh word" and "the dirty look", but that might get you killed or worse by a banger.... |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 4:20:14 PM EDT
[#23]
A McDonalds Shake straw and a Hi-capacity bag of peas...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 4:39:51 PM EDT
[#24]
ha ha ha. Oh my God, you are hilarious. I would like to join in on the fun. cliche remark, cliche remark, pun, non-witty retort.
As you can see, sarcasm is alive and well here also. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/11/2004 10:20:31 PM EDT
[#25]
only 3 and 4 are correct. Chinese and Russian SKSs are legal. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2004 3:36:15 AM EDT
[#26]
I put those in because I remember hearing from someone at a shop that the Chinese and Russian ones wouldn't be sold because they were illegal to import and that is why they had to say where the rifles came from, like Yugolsavia.
I should know better than to take what I hear at shops as fact. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2004 7:10:06 PM EDT
[#27]
No handgun or rifle tracer ammo. tracer shotshells are okay. AP rifle ammo is also okay, just no AP handgun ammo. SKS is fine as long as it doesnt have a detachable mag. Some of the semiauto firearms still for sale in the local gun stores; SKS M1 Garand M1 Carbine M1A Mini-14 & 30 PCR40 & PCR9 Marlin Camp 9 & 45 Browning BAR Rem 740/7400 Benelli M1 Super 90 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2004 7:38:22 PM EDT
[#28]
It seems from conversations I've had with them, that a majority of Gun Shop FFLs are ignorant of the law. Consequently they will tell you that anything that even resembles a AW is illegal in CA. Just a couple weeks ago when my GF was doing a PPT transfer for her new Savage 300 WSM when the seller asked the "store" owner about ordering an Imbel FAL receiver for another friend he adamantly insisted that ALL FAL variants, receivers, clones, etc were illegal in CA. Even when I pointed out to him that another FFL - who I use regularly - was distributor for DSA. After 10 minutes of explaining how one could legally own a FAL type firearm he still wasn't convinced  The "kitchen table" or "transfer" FFLS seem much better versed. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2004 5:28:17 PM EDT
[#29]
Yes it is, and I can. - You see in a way I am a political refugee from the PRK. I was born and raised in Glendale. At one point I worked for KABC in Hollywood. I used to collect guns, street race and enjoy life IN CA. But I could read the writing on the wall, and it wasn't gang grafiti. My choosen lifestyle was allready restricted and the future was bleak. I took a huge pay cut, sold off most my guns to pay for the move to Colorado and really learned how to live. Almost all the guns I sold are now either banned or the mags for them are banned. Here I have the choice to invest in NFA firearms, and thats no joke. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2004 9:46:47 PM EDT
[#30]
Umm..isn't PCR9 and PCR40 essentially an AR lower w/ a different calibur upper?? How are those legal???
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2004 11:07:42 PM EDT
[#31]
I may have my model number wrong. I was thinking of the Ruger Carbines in 9mm and 40SW that use handgun mags. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2004 1:29:49 PM EDT
[#32]
You're not wrong, they do use handgun magazines, and they are called the PC4 and PC9. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/15/2004 6:17:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Right, he originally wrote pcR9, & pcR40... The PCR9 and PC9 are different guns.. So is the PCR40 and PC40 |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 12/15/2004 6:43:13 PM EDT
[#34]
Exactly why I stated the correct names in my post, right firearms, wrong names...
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
