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Posted: 9/19/2004 9:54:35 PM EDT

has anyone ever tried to purchase hi cap mags in Vegas? Do they ask for anything or just the $$$
I dont care if the state of Cali doesnt like me bringin in Hi caps from Vegas, I dont like its dumb @$$ gun laws!

Posted: 9/20/2004 12:04:11 AM EDT

[#1]

Uh, I wouldn't think they would ask you for ID but! I certainly wouldn't post plans like this on public forums....

Posted: 9/20/2004 12:06:39 AM EDT

[#2]

I am sure it has been done.

ETA: Fuck it, I'll tell you this, I don't think Kali can pinch me for giving advice. Use cash. Don't let them see your plates when you pull in. Don't tell them your name. The last may sound easy but I have been to shops that log every transaction with name and number. You don't actually break a law till you cross the border. Leave them out of sight on the way home. Good luck.

Posted: 9/20/2004 1:55:13 AM EDT

[#3]

Don't blame people for being hesitant, you have exactly 1 post. Of course it is only the dollars. It is illegal to bring them in, but who exactly is stopping you. You know it is illegal, but if you want to do it, do it and nobody will know ( except for all the feds now watching). BTW I did not recommend this.

Posted: 9/20/2004 2:57:41 PM EDT

[#4]

lol im not going to Vegas to bring some hi caps... I was just wondering how so many people at the range have hi caps.

Posted: 9/20/2004 3:14:15 PM EDT

[#5]

If I go to Amsterdam to buy pot and it's legal there, is it legal to bring it back into the U.S.?

If I go to Cuba to buy cigars and it's legal there, is it legal to bring them back into the U.S.?

What do you think?

And to answer your other question, they bought them in 1999.

I smell tocino.

Posted: 9/20/2004 3:21:44 PM EDT

[#6]

Posted: 9/20/2004 3:44:18 PM EDT

[#7]

see what im trying to say is, how are they going to know if those people had them before 1999?
I know its illegal i never asked that i was just wondering if this was easy or hard...

Posted: 9/20/2004 3:49:48 PM EDT

[#8]

There is no way of "them" knowing when magazines were purchased except for a sales receipt if they were purchased at your local sporting goods store. If it was at a gun show, most likely there was no receipt given, just a "thank you for your business, have a nice day", if even that.

Some manufacturers put a date stamp back in '94 on their mags; any 10+ magazines made after that up to 10/04 were stamped "Law Enforcment or Military Only", or something to that effect. For example, the magazine on my USP was stamped "06/94", H&K knew it was coming so they started to stamp their magazines until 9/94, then they started stamping the high caps with the aforementioned stamp.

Other than a date code during this time period, magazines have no serial numbers.

Posted: 9/20/2004 4:45:15 PM EDT

[#9]

Posted: 9/20/2004 5:42:18 PM EDT

[#10]

Okay, thanks for the info people...

Posted: 9/20/2004 6:15:42 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Okay, thanks for the info people...

Hey pick me up two while you are there

Posted: 9/20/2004 6:40:47 PM EDT

[#12]

You know that agriculture check point on the way back? It is now a contraband check station. They have gamma ray emitters to look inside your trunk while driving through, magazine sniffing dogs that can smell gun oil a mile away, and little aliens borrowed from Area 51 to see what you are thinking.

Posted: 9/20/2004 6:47:11 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
lol im not going to Vegas to bring some hi caps... I was just wondering how so many people at the range have hi caps.

Because I bought more than a hundred before the ban.

Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities is not welcomed here.

Figure it out please.

Posted: 9/20/2004 7:33:32 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
see what im trying to say is, how are they going to know if those people had them before 1999?
I know its illegal i never asked that i was just wondering if this was easy or hard...

It's easy to do. Nobody is gonna' card you for buying a mag.

It's not recommended to bring them back here though. Kinda' illegal whether you like it or not.

Posted: 9/20/2004 10:23:58 PM EDT

[#15]

There was an incident last year at a show here in Vegas where undercover California DOJ "agents" gave a vendor shit and threatened him for selling them hicaps even after he knew they were from California. The vendor called over someone from Vegas PD and told him who they were and what they were doing. Vegas PD told them to get the hell out and escorted them from the building (to the cheers of many who knew what was going on).

Posted: 9/21/2004 4:51:34 PM EDT

[#16]

just don't get caught

Posted: 9/21/2004 6:56:05 PM EDT

[#17]

There was an incident last year at a show here in Vegas where undercover California DOJ "agents" gave a vendor shit and threatened him for selling them hicaps even after he knew they were from California. The vendor called over someone from Vegas PD and told him who they were and what they were doing. Vegas PD told them to get the hell out and escorted them from the building (to the cheers of many who knew what was going on).

Rick is this a valid story, or a made up one, if its true that would be to sweet.

Posted: 9/21/2004 8:22:08 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
There was an incident last year at a show here in Vegas where undercover California DOJ "agents" gave a vendor shit and threatened him for selling them hicaps even after he knew they were from California. The vendor called over someone from Vegas PD and told him who they were and what they were doing. Vegas PD told them to get the hell out and escorted them from the building (to the cheers of many who knew what was going on).

Rick is this a valid story, or a made up one, if its true that would be to sweet.

While I was not there at the time it happened, I was there a few hours after. It was quite the buzz as you would imagine.

Posted: 9/21/2004 10:51:11 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
What happens here, Stays here

I like the lips on that billboard...

Posted: 9/22/2004 7:53:47 AM EDT

[#20]

Hear no evil, speak no evil and so on.....

Posted: 9/22/2004 10:03:50 PM EDT

[#21]

Bump.

Posted: 9/23/2004 12:38:05 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Quoted:
lol im not going to Vegas to bring some hi caps... I was just wondering how so many people at the range have hi caps.

Because I bought more than a hundred before the ban.

Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities is not welcomed here.

Figure it out please.

+1

Why would anyone ask such a question? Especially on a board that seems to be gettin a lot of attention lately? Geez.

Posted: 9/23/2004 7:02:22 AM EDT

[#23]

Tag

Posted: 9/23/2004 9:38:54 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
There is no way of "them" knowing when magazines were purchased except for a sales receipt if they were purchased at your local sporting goods store. If it was at a gun show, most likely there was no receipt given, just a "thank you for your business, have a nice day", if even that.

Some manufacturers put a date stamp back in '94 on their mags; any 10+ magazines made after that up to 10/04 were stamped "Law Enforcment or Military Only", or something to that effect. For example, the magazine on my USP was stamped "06/94", H&K knew it was coming so they started to stamp their magazines until 9/94, then they started stamping the high caps with the aforementioned stamp.

Other than a date code during this time period, magazines have no serial numbers.

My buddy's Luger disagrees with you .

Posted: 9/25/2004 6:01:04 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
You know that agriculture check point on the way back? It is now a contraband check station. They have gamma ray emitters to look inside your trunk while driving through, magazine sniffing dogs that can smell gun oil a mile away, and little aliens borrowed from Area 51 to see what you are thinking.

The station in Truckee had most of staff laid off/transferred earlier this year due to the budget crisis. The only thing they check anymore are trucks.

Posted: 9/28/2004 12:18:06 PM EDT

[#26]

Every time I go to Vegas, all my excess cash gets left at Cheetas!

Posted: 10/1/2004 9:40:59 PM EDT

[#27]

Actually *if* you do got to vegas/reno/wherever to buy a mag all you would get in trouble for is if you were caught bringing them in. Once they are in California there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it because the law atates that the sale, buying, and importation is regulated. The ownership is not regulated. So therefore once it is safely in your house, you have nothing to worry abou. Until the revolution comes at which point you will have to break them out.

*note* to anyone who thinks that we should comply with laws that violate the first law of nature and the second of this country, "I am not saying to do this as I do not know how long you will be put away for"

Posted: 10/2/2004 7:24:17 AM EDT

[#28]

It is completely legal to buy those mags in Nevada, for replacement purposes to bring back to Kalifornia.
Instead of buying replacement parts, you buy the whole mag, and disassemble it before you enter Kalifornia. You only use the parts as replacement parts for your existing mags. It is against the law to import, or assemble new mags.

Posted: 10/7/2004 12:47:17 AM EDT

[#29]

the easiest way to do it is to first off contact the local police department and tell them what you are about to do, they will call ahead and make sure you get waved through the checkpoint without a search. That way you can get them home all the sooner.

Posted: 11/4/2004 5:37:50 AM EDT

[#30]

just having them in california doesn't necessarily mean you are completely legal. The importation and assembly of new ones is illegal, but possession isn't regulated-that's correct. HOWEVER, if you are seen with said mags, then there's a weapon they go with obviously, and a quick check of that weapon's information or your information would reveal whether you legally own a registered weapon or not. Based on that info or even possibly just the possession of the mags, an LEO could effectively get a warrant to inspect the weapon that the mags are possessed for.

Best philosophy when it comes to the DOJ.... if 'mr. sneaky' starts to give you ideas in your head, don't listen because that's the first step to incarceration.

Posted: 11/4/2004 11:33:36 AM EDT

[#31]

Well, this is a free country. You may do whatever you want to. Just DO NOT post illegal ideas here to draw attention from Feds.

Posted: 11/4/2004 12:02:22 PM EDT

[#32]

Whats so free about it?

Posted: 11/4/2004 12:24:47 PM EDT

[#33]

I wouldn't recommend CA gun owners to possess over 10 round mags for firearms created after 2000(make, model). That'd be tricky explaining how you possessed mags for a firearm design that didn't exist before the ban.

Posted: 11/5/2004 9:47:54 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Whats so free about it?

The freedom only left to not-break-laws...... just kidding

KaliBan really sucks!

Posted: 11/5/2004 12:43:50 PM EDT

[#35]

hmmmj, a bunch of newbies. Wonder if they're DUh refugees

A simple corollary of Occam's Razor. Assume Stupidity before Malice. In other words, if any DoJ paid attention, they wouldn't bother to post or answer. However a newbie that hasn't lurked for a while sure might.

First read the AG Firearms page, it's pretty straightfoward on what is and isn't legal.

After you read that AND you still need to ask a question, well expect the answers you will get. The old saw abbout no dumb questions, well it doesn't always apply here when you don't do your own homework.

If you happened to find a bunch of hi-caps you put away before the ban, and they get inspected, which is hardly very likely unless you ARE STUPID ENOUGH to draw attention to them, keep them in an easier to find storage location until you really really need them, and nobody will be checking at that point.

You aren't going to get searched until YOU do something to initiate the search. That includes pissing off a former buddy, girl-friend, soon to be ex-wife, etc to drop a dime, open yer yap at the wrong place and time or commit another crime.

There's really no good reason to have questionable mag out in public is there? or are you showing off? (re-read above two paragraphs regarding STUPID and YOU doing something)

Posted: 11/5/2004 8:51:05 PM EDT

[#36]

30 round mags are cool looking and all but in all honesty, if you practice, practice, practice shooting with 5 round mags you will improve your marksmanship to the point at which you can eliminate all threats you will normally come across with minimal rounds.
Plus you will have the warm fuzzy feeling that comes with knowing that you know and follow the rule of law.

Posted: 11/5/2004 9:39:30 PM EDT

[#37]

Its a principle thing as much as it is about actually metal things with springs in them.

As for law, it was meant to be beant, slowely and agonizingly, so as to break its spirit and then its back.

Now worries for me though, I got outta cali a long time ago.

Posted: 11/6/2004 7:21:20 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
just having them in california doesn't necessarily mean you are completely legal. The importation and assembly of new ones is illegal, but possession isn't regulated-that's correct. HOWEVER, if you are seen with said mags, then there's a weapon they go with obviously, and a quick check of that weapon's information or your information would reveal whether you legally own a registered weapon or not. Based on that info or even possibly just the possession of the mags, an LEO could effectively get a warrant to inspect the weapon that the mags are possessed for.

Best philosophy when it comes to the DOJ.... if 'mr. sneaky' starts to give you ideas in your head, don't listen because that's the first step to incarceration.

So my Cali-legal Ruger Mini-14 should be no problem since it's not an covered under SB23!!!
Or what if I'm in the military and these were isseued to me?
Or maybe I have gun parts but don't own a gun, I just buy and collect junk.

By the time the LEO gets the warrant you can make your phone call and inform people to expect company.

Too much hassle for a LEO don't you think?

Posted: 11/6/2004 7:27:33 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
I wouldn't recommend CA gun owners to possess over 10 round mags for firearms created after 2000(make, model). That'd be tricky explaining how you possessed mags for a firearm design that didn't exist before the ban.hr

I was in the Military from 1997-2001. Between 1997-1999 I purchased extra M16 mags because the armory refuse to reissue me some because they beleived they were ok, but I didn't own an AR or anything that accepted M16/AR mags. So lets say I purchase a weapon that uses these mags and the year is 2004. As you can see, not much to worry about.

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