Ford v Chevy
BMW v Mercedes

I know my Tavor won't cycle right with my can

I've watched most of the video so far. I will say, knowing who he is. He knows more about some/many firearms than I ever will. But that video. With AUG takedown, lack of all the pertinent info was kinda hard to watch.

Chevy
BMW
Aug

Fixed it

Yep. Knowledge 100% Presentation/Delivery -5% on most of his videos.

I've had a few beers, but it was difficult to listen to this video. I also died a little on the inside when he said the AUG does not have a forward assist.

after watching

AUG of course, no contest. The A1 version has a forward assist

Im pretty sure the others do to you just have to manipulate the charging handle in some fashion if I recall.

A1 forward assist is the button on the CH.

All other forward assist is folding the CH toward the receiver.

I got as far as seeing he couldn't spell Steyr.
 
Yeah, that bugs me.  Yeah, I know it doesn't mean a guy has no skills.  But if you are putting out a video, article, learn to spell it as part of your research.   If you can't  be bothered with that, I'm going to wonder how hard you tried to familiarize yourself with what you were testing.

From the sound of the comments here, I was right.

I went with an AUG.

nuff said.

I could not watch more than 5 minutes

Honestly... The idea of having a Tavor died the moment I tried one at the range. My finger kept getting behind the trigger.

Winning! 

"Aug rail too short" (He had no idea that there are other rail options on the A3 m1, or that the A3 or A3 cqc have way more rail space, and yes you do have enough rail space to co- witness w buis etc..)



"Tavor has most of it's weight in the back".....then wouldn't that make it more jumpy ? and guess what it is
 "the Aug's trigger is horrendous".............i disagree
"Tavor more smoother to shoot"......I found that the Aug was far more smoother to shoot then my friends Tavor

"Augs butt plate is more slippery"......it's rubber?????


so many features and benefits to the Aug that most of these vid.s  always miss or ignore


i was counting the days and minutes for the Tavor to be available in the U.S. but was surprised that i didn't like them nearly as much as I love the Aug
i now  own 3 Aug's and soon to own a 4th
never did buy a Tavor and probably wont but to each his own


my 2 cents

Get Both.....

I have theee AUGs (A3 and 2 M1s) and a Tavor SAR.

The Tavor hasn't left the safe since it came out of the box.

I mean really they're far more alike than different. I don't know why this has to be such a A or B type thing. I got the tavor because I got it for a deal. The AUG is on my short list, shit even an FS2000 is on my list. I had one and sold it off a few years before they stopped importing them, I miss it because even though I like it less than either it was still cool as shit.

ALL his points are subjective.

But fails to mention:

1) Steyr AUG: Cold hammer forged barrel by the people that INVENTED cold hammer forging.  Tavor:  meh barrel steel by who knows who?

2) Steyr AUG: 35 years of proven record.

advantage; Steyr.

And in his 2nd video, where he gets more into the details of the AUG, he's shooting off of his elbows instead of folding the vfg and benching it properly like he does with other guns

The barrel point only really is true with the original preban rifles. The neutured ones had Australian barrels if I recall correctly. The saber a3s had button rifled barrels made by saber and the aug a3m1 I'm not sure who makes those but they aren't Steyr.

The later A3s and the M1s are FN CHF barrels on Steyr mandrels if my memory serves.

i thought current US AUG barrels were made by FN on Steyr equipment?

Took me a moment to find but apparently they are.

Apparently he can get a little defensive. On his other video I suggested that the "reliability" issues that New Zealand had with their F88 could have been more from manufacture problems than design. He went out of his way to say the LMT is far superior, despite me not mentioning any gun being superior or inferior.

AUG is a fantastic rifle.  Tavor's barrel is CH forged in Israel.  Nothing "meh" about it.

"The narcissism of small differences is the thesis that it is precisely communities with adjoining territories and close relationships that engage in constant feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to details of differentiation."

"In terms of postmodernity, consumer culture has been seen as predicated on the narcissism of small differences to achieve a superficial sense of one's own uniqueness, an ersatz sense of otherness which is only a mask for an underlying uniformity and sameness."

The Narcism of Small Differences (NOSD) is a perennial issue with man's tribal instincts, and is alive and well in the gun community - hence the endless this vs. that debates.

In terms of breakdowns between the AUG and Tavor, they have more in common (combat grade modern bullpup rifles chambered in 5.56 utilizing extensive polymer construction and optimized for ease of use by conscript forces) then they have differences between them.

A basic rundown of the Pro's between them:

Tavor:
-$1500 vs. $1700+ for AUG
-AR15 magazine standard
-Faster reloads due to drop free mag and superior bolt release position
-More accessories aftermarket
-Better factory rail configuration with built in BUIS
-1/7 twist barrel with 1/2x28
-1" shorter then AUG per equal barrel length

AUG:
-Superior neutral balance
- ~2.5" height over bore vs Tavor 3.5"
- Quick change barrel allows it to fit into a 20" backpack
- Greater modularity at the user level (barrel length, ejection side, stock color, different magazines, 9mm conversion, open bolt LMG, etc)
- 20" and 24" barrel option (Tavor max is 18")
- Superior safety for use with winter gloves
- Sleeker appearance and general bragging rights due to rarity

I never thought about the crossbolt being better for heavy winter gloves that actually makes sense given austrian alps and such. Agreed on both being good rifles I think there is far less difference between them than say the AR/AK debate.

They also shipped over a equipment to IWI USA so they can hammer forge barrels in the US now too.

We should ban such posts in the future. This is comparing a BMW to a bicycle and I am thoroughly offended as a Steyr owner.

One thing for sure is IMI will never be the top producer of any kind.

Please don't do this again.

he told me to fuck off

Mic Drop material