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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:01:38 PM EDT
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I love my TAV-D but i haven't tried anything else.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:37:30 PM EDT
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You can't go wrong with either the Super Sabra or TAV-D. Stay away from the Timney.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:55:59 PM EDT
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wow was just looking at timney that was close
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:12:56 PM EDT
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You can't go wrong with either the Super Sabra or TAV-D. Stay away from the Timney. This, either one is a great choice. I have the Tav-D and love it and the Geissele sounds like it is just as nice. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:56:26 PM EDT
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Timney replaced my trigger after having way to many lite strikes causing massive problems. I have not tried the replacement yet :/
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:37:28 PM EDT
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The order I would rank them :
1)TAV-D 2)Geissele 3)Timney TAV-D is what I am running. It was the first 2 stage trigger to the consumer with the fewest issues / problems to date. It's material & construction is different than it's main competitor (Geissele) in a positive way. Each trigger is test fired then shipped. Geissele is the only other 2 stage trigger available from a well known company. They apparently had some launch issues and swapped out some units. It has an added feature of an adjustment screw if that is desirable. It's received positive reviews. It's slightly more expensive than the TAV-D. The Timney I would pass on because I prefer 2 stage triggers vs a single stage and the Timney has / had the most issues of not being reliable and the jury is still out if they fixed it yet. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:35:22 PM EDT
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SILLY RABBIT ,EVERYONR KNOWS IT'S THE TAV-D
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:10:00 PM EDT
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SILLY RABBIT ,EVERYONR KNOWS IT'S THE TAV-D No we don't. They are not available right now. (and my email went un answered) Wanted one, but went another route that was actually available so spent the $$ elsewhere. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:21:15 PM EDT
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Whichever one is "best" is simply a matter of opinion.
TAV-D +slightly lighter pull +slightly less expensive Super Sabra +adjustable first stage +better reset Decide which features are more desirable to you and get that one. I personally went with the Super Sabra. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:33:15 PM EDT
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I HAVE SHOT BOTH ,and own the Tav-D . The Tav-d is cheaper and the trigger parts are made of a far better grade of steel , not much cheaper MIM parts. In addition the Tav-D trigger feels better .lighter crisper and the reset is fine . Bottom line is at this point the Tav-D is the very best trigger pack available . As far as availability ,just get on the waiting list and you will get one . so the answer still is , SILLY RABBIT EVERYONE WHO HAS SHOT BOTH KNOWS THE TAV-D IS IN FACT THE BEST
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:47:14 PM EDT
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After shooting my Sabra I am very happy with it. It ran perfectly using my saker including ammo with hard primers.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 2:25:23 PM EDT
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After shooting my Sabra I am very happy with it. It ran perfectly using my saker including ammo with hard primers. I'm glad your happy with the Sabra ,you should still shoot a Tav-D and give us your impression of the 2 . 
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Posted: 10/4/2014 3:09:29 PM EDT
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I'm glad your happy with the Sabra ,you should still shoot a Tav-D and give us your impression of the 2 . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After shooting my Sabra I am very happy with it. It ran perfectly using my saker including ammo with hard primers. I'm glad your happy with the Sabra ,you should still shoot a Tav-D and give us your impression of the 2 . |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 3:51:56 PM EDT
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From what I have read everyone who has purchased both units prefers the Tav-D . You guys are forgetting the Tav-D is coated with a self lubricant and cleans up just like a fail Zero bolt does. That's an advantage over-all as well. I see no need for the adjustable first stage. Why would you want the pull heavier then it already is? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After shooting my Sabra I am very happy with it. It ran perfectly using my saker including ammo with hard primers. I'm glad your happy with the Sabra ,you should still shoot a Tav-D and give us your impression of the 2 . Not knowing when the tav-d was going to be available again made the choice for me. Several months ago I decided the tav-d and sabra were the two to try, and being a toss up, I decided to buy the one that was actually available first. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 4:11:00 PM EDT
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Whichever one is "best" is simply a matter of opinion. TAV-D +slightly lighter pull +slightly less expensive Super Sabra +adjustable first stage +better reset Decide which features are more desirable to you and get that one. I personally went with the Super Sabra. Fixed it for you~ Whichever one is "best" is simply a matter of opinion. TAV-D +slightly lighter pull +slightly less expensive Super Sabra +adjustable first stage +DIFFERENT reset Decide which features are more desirable to you and get that one. I personally went with the Super Sabra. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 7:21:20 PM EDT
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I have never shot the TAV-D. I bought one of the first Geisseles on the market and have had zero issues. The reset is utter perfection and the overall operation is very smooth. Today I ran my Super Sabra equipped Tavor sporting a RDS and Savvy Sniper sling in a carbine course. I managed faster reloads and at least equal accuracy and speed with the next best shooter in the course. 800 rds and counting with no problems. This rifle is going to replace my KAC M4s as my "go to" rifle even though I love the M4 platform. This rifle is that good and a big part of it is the Super Sabra.
Try both if you can before buying. I'd love to try a TAV-D but I can't imagine much room for improvement over Geissele's offering. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 7:46:22 PM EDT
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no problems with the new timney in 556 and 9mm conversion
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Posted: 10/4/2014 8:24:32 PM EDT
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I have never shot the TAV-D. I bought one of the first Geisseles on the market and have had zero issues. The reset is utter perfection and the overall operation is very smooth. Today I ran my Super Sabra equipped Tavor sporting a RDS and Savvy Sniper sling in a carbine course. I managed faster reloads and at least equal accuracy and speed with the next best shooter in the course. 800 rds and counting with no problems. This rifle is going to replace my KAC M4s as my "go to" rifle even though I love the M4 platform. This rifle is that good and a big part of it is the Super Sabra. Try both if you can before buying. I'd love to try a TAV-D but I can't imagine much room for improvement over Geissele's offering. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:03:35 PM EDT
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Tav-D owner here, no reason to look at anything else.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:49:17 PM EDT
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Ordered a Tav D just now.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 10:54:23 PM EDT
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I am guessing the Geissele listed at the bullpup forum is the same one posted here for sale -
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_47/1359571_F_S__Geissele_Super_Sabra_for_Tavor.html |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:58:40 AM EDT
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I got my Tav-D, It appears to be perfect. It is sweet!
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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:30:05 PM EDT
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Funny, I just got my Geissele and think the same thing of it.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 12:11:43 PM EDT
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I HAVE SHOT BOTH ,and own the Tav-D . The Tav-d is cheaper and the trigger parts are made of a far better grade of steel , not much cheaper MIM parts. In addition the Tav-D trigger feels better .lighter crisper and the reset is fine . Bottom line is at this point the Tav-D is the very best trigger pack available . As far as availability ,just get on the waiting list and you will get one . so the answer still is , SILLY RABBIT EVERYONE WHO HAS SHOT BOTH KNOWS THE TAV-D IS IN FACK THE BEST What's a "fack"?
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Posted: 10/7/2014 12:37:36 PM EDT
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I HAVE SHOT BOTH ,and own the Tav-D . The Tav-d is cheaper and the trigger parts are made of a far better grade of steel , not much cheaper MIM parts. In addition the Tav-D trigger feels better .lighter crisper and the reset is fine . Bottom line is at this point the Tav-D is the very best trigger pack available . As far as availability ,just get on the waiting list and you will get one . so the answer still is , SILLY RABBIT EVERYONE WHO HAS SHOT BOTH KNOWS THE TAV-D IS IN FACK THE BEST What's a "fack"? THERE YA GO FIXED |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 12:55:13 PM EDT
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Just buy one. Seriously, just pick one and buy it. I went with the Geissele, because I have several of their other triggers and they're fucking excellent.
Whichever one you pick, you're probably never going to to shoot the other one, so you can just assume the one you chose suits you better.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 3:32:34 PM EDT
[#27]
If your interest is Shooting offhand using a Red Dot both packs are so close it's nearly impossible to feel and difference. If you in addition want to make your trigger heavier then buy the geissele. If you plan on doing some accuracy shooting at distance with a Scope. The Tav-D does have a Shorter crisper lighter pull. It would work slightly better for long distance shots or shooting for accuracy. Other then those 2 differences they are equal: Either one will do you just fine.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 1:15:24 AM EDT
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I have played with both and went with the Geissele.
I felt the Geissele had a slightly cleaner 2nd stage break and a shorter reset. Riding the reset was easier with the Geissele. Overall, the Tav-D was smoother - not as mushy in he first stage; but, I really wanted that short reset and very crisp second stage break. If I get a second Tavor set up for 300BLK or a match barrel - It will get a TAV-D |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 7:57:21 AM EDT
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None of the aftermarket triggers eliminate the internal Tavor trigger slack. That's the "mushy first stage" for some of 'em.
-- Chuck |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 12:33:06 PM EDT
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I think a "blind" test at the next big bullpup shoot would be excellent.
Set up a table on the firing line and let people come shoot both triggers "Pepsi Challenge" style. 
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Posted: 11/13/2014 3:12:53 AM EDT
[#31]
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If your interest is Shooting offhand using a Red Dot both packs are so close it's nearly impossible to feel and difference. If you in addition want to make your trigger heavier then buy the geissele. If you plan on doing some accuracy shooting at distance with a Scope. The Tav-D does have a Shorter crisper lighter pull. It would work slightly better for long distance shots or shooting for accuracy. Other then those 2 differences they are equal: Either one will do you just fine. I also have both and agree that it's nearly impossible to feel any difference; both are great triggers. The most significant difference for me ... like the factory trigger, the Tav-D can be removed with the slight assistance of a bullet, and then reinserted by hand with light thumb pressure on the pins. The Geissele (at least mine) requires a drive pin punch and light hammer blows to remove the pins. When reinstalling the trigger, the most rearward pin can be inserted by hand, but again, the front pin requires gentle hammer blows, even after it's been "started". Anyone else have this experience with their Geissele? |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 5:20:51 AM EDT
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I also have both and agree that it's nearly impossible to feel any difference; both are great triggers. The most significant difference for me ... like the factory trigger, the Tav-D can be removed with the slight assistance of a bullet, and then reinserted by hand with light thumb pressure on the pins. The Geissele (at least mine) requires a drive pin punch and light hammer blows to remove the pins. When reinstalling the trigger, the most rearward pin can be inserted by hand, but again, the front pin requires gentle hammer blows, even after it's been "started". Anyone else have this experience with their Geissele? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If your interest is Shooting offhand using a Red Dot both packs are so close it's nearly impossible to feel and difference. If you in addition want to make your trigger heavier then buy the geissele. If you plan on doing some accuracy shooting at distance with a Scope. The Tav-D does have a Shorter crisper lighter pull. It would work slightly better for long distance shots or shooting for accuracy. Other then those 2 differences they are equal: Either one will do you just fine. I also have both and agree that it's nearly impossible to feel any difference; both are great triggers. The most significant difference for me ... like the factory trigger, the Tav-D can be removed with the slight assistance of a bullet, and then reinserted by hand with light thumb pressure on the pins. The Geissele (at least mine) requires a drive pin punch and light hammer blows to remove the pins. When reinstalling the trigger, the most rearward pin can be inserted by hand, but again, the front pin requires gentle hammer blows, even after it's been "started". Anyone else have this experience with their Geissele? Mine goes in fine. It takes a little more pressure than the stock trigger, but you don't need a punch or hammer by any means. |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 11:57:25 AM EDT
[#33]
I had to send my Timney Replacement back because it didnt work as advertised...
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Posted: 11/13/2014 12:53:52 PM EDT
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I had to send my Timney Replacement back because it didnt work as advertised... Was it a Gen 1 or a Gen 2? |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 11:49:20 AM EDT
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What's gen 1 and 2? I mean how would be know?
My very early Timney (first release) could not fire a complete magazine without several failures to fire. Not even after Timney sent new springs. -- Chuck |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 3:09:09 PM EDT
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Got the gen 2 Timney and it works perfect with no issues whatsoever. Sorry haters....
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Posted: 11/21/2014 5:55:05 PM EDT
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Keep it stock. It's a battle rifle with a battle trigger. Learn to shoot well with the stock trigger and wait for the superior and cheaper trigger replacement after a few years if needed.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 8:30:12 PM EDT
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Since "battle" is not on the agenda, and I plan to shoot paper, a match trigger is appropriate.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 11:58:33 PM EDT
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Keep it stock. It's a battle rifle with a battle trigger. Learn to shoot well with the stock trigger and wait for the superior and cheaper trigger replacement after a few years if needed. Its a semi auto version of the select fire battle rifle with a heavy trigger. "Battle" triggers on US service rifles have been 7bs or less for the last 100 years. You might get lucky and remove the reset / return spring and get an 8lb trigger on a stock Tavor. A TAV-D , Geissele or Timney just mimic what a normal US service rifle trigger pull has been for the last century. If you like a heavy trigger or don't know the difference then the stock trigger is fine. For people that are use to US service rifle any of the other triggers are a MUCH better option. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:07:42 AM EDT
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Yep, those who have never been combat infantrymen (or even in ground military service) proclaim the stock Tavor trigger as a "Combat Trigger."
The Tav-D trigger rescued my Tavor from the the Equipment Exchange where it would have been by this time. Of course to sell it to the uninitiated my for-sale ad would tout the stock Tavor's "combat" or "battle" trigger.
It is encouraging, though, to note IWI is listening (but only a little) as many here (and on the IWI site) are reporting stock trigger weights well below the standard 12+ pounds of a year ago. -- Chuck 
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Posted: 11/22/2014 7:45:52 PM EDT
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Keep it stock. It's a battle rifle with a battle 18 year-old conscript trigger. FIFY. Pure cost/benefit analysis. Take 350 bucks worth of ammo, burn it practicing shooting your Tavor with the stock trigger. You aren't going to see the same benefit in practical accuracy that one of the good aftermarket triggers is gonna get you. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:38:06 PM EDT
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I noticed Shooting sight had TAV D aluminum housing triggers in stock.
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