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Rick A It looks like you were mistaken about the firing pin being locked forward and causing an Out of battery firing .Check out Tacilites warning in this furum. They at least have enough sense to recall there mistakes. Not like some others ! Before someone gets hurt!

Crawl back in your hole, troll.

-David
Edgewood, NM

And Sir it is a shame if the above red hi-lighted word is a misspell. For I am not aware of any such thing happening. If it did happen, please educate me. And if it did not happen, then your typo has just misinformed a whole lot of people. I hope it is a typo, but see what kind of action stating that a bolt went through someones head can do too.

I also have left FCSA. For basiclly the same reasons. It would have been grand if someone at FCSA had started a donation drive for the guy that was at the nationals. And if the guy before and the BOHICA shooter. Even if they are not members of FCSA, they are members of the shooting community.  And BTW is it not a ALS?

Actually what I got out of the recall notice is that they state that over tightening the bolt handle can lock the firing pin. So, which one of us cant read?

Cool it!

50cal

Where do these guys pop up from?
 Another Bohica thread down the tube.  Damn.

For those just joining this topic of conversation, They = Tactilite.  Tactilite recalled their upper bolt assembly, not Bohica.  Tactilte hasn't had one (or two) accidents, they just used their head and decided to fix a potential safety problem BEFORE somebody gets hurt.  That is the standard this industry should strive for when dealing with design problems that impact safety!

This thread is titled "Bohica Kaboom", so one shouldn't get the idea that a defect of the Tactilite upper had anything to do with the incident at the Angeles range.

On MY Bohica upper, at least, the bolt handle screw on the improved bolt, as well as the threaded shank on the original bolt, are not long enough to engage and lock the firing pin.  If someone replaced the provided screw with a longer one, bad things could happen... also, screws of a nominal size do vary in length, and if your bolt handle screw is engaging the firing pin for any reason your best bet it to contact Bohica Arms Corp. and have them send you a proper one.

I'm not sure at what percentage of lug engagement that a Bohica action would be safe.  And the geometry of the safety cam combined with the hammer width would impact at what percentage of engagement the firing pin shielding would become ineffective.  Don't laugh, but I'm thinking about drilling a hole through the lower and a matching hole on the hammer, then securing the hammer with a cross pin.  Then I could close the bolt 100% before removing the pin.  Regardless of the efficacy of the current bolt design, even if the bolt is later redesigned to be safer, having another robust hammer blocking solution sounds like a belt-and-suspenders idea to me.  To paraphrase, a dumb idea that saves your face from getting blown off, isn't dumb.

My alternative idea is to shoot an AR-50 instead

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Somebody did get hurt.   It may have not been with their rifle, but until this person got hurt, they hadn't issued a recall for this issue.   I still say this incident woke up a few manufacturer's to go look at their designs a bit closer.   It's not a bad thing that they did this and are issuing a recall but let's be honest here, unless the incident in LA happened, this recall may not have happened either.
Cheers,
cc

Just FYI, that dwkennedy quote should be attributed to jdfreak.  I am well aquainted with dwkennedy and he assures me he didn't type that

My apologies DW.....I got all confused with the two or three quotes and figured I probably screwed it up!
Cheers,
cc

It's almost been 30 days since this incident happened and we still don't have any new information from either party? WTF?



 

Did you really think you would hear anything?   It's been 7-8 months since the ALS Kaboom and so far nothing (official anyway) from that either!    You won't hear anything until all the legal avenues are covered.
cc

While I keep hoping that something will be released, since the Bohica is the .50 I'm looking to acquire when the time comes (and nothing in this thread so far has changed that) I honestly don't expect anything to be released any time soon.

Chris would be a fool to issue a recall based on an accusation he couldn't check on.  Even though one or two potential buyers would applaud a "precautionary" recall, the majority of shoppers would see only the word "recall" and move along.  The harm it would do to his business would be great.  Particularly if there's litigation involved, with the possibility that a recall might be construed as an admission of guilt.

Yes, yes, I know that killing/maiming a customer wouldn't exactly be good for business, but that's kinda the point at this point.  All we know at this point is that somebody got pictures before the lid was slammed down, that stories are changing, and that the father of the injured shooter seems to be blaming the rifle and appears to have lawyered up.

Knowing people the way I do, it surprises me not in the least that dad would blame the rifle.  He might even be right.  But he might not be.  He might even be like some other California parents I know of who make a living off the misfortunes of their children on the talk show and speechifying circuits.

To reiterate, we don't now, and probably won't any time soon.

It's commendable that forum members have been doing home trials.  That's what makes ARFcom great in my eyes.  While lawyers are sailing through the air in battery and counter-battery fusillades,  that's probably all we can hope for.  The more we can find out by ourselves, the less we have to wonder what sort of affect lawyers are having on our hobby/safety.

And remember, guys, we're all armed here, and an armed society is supposed to be a polite society.  So keep it civil!

The original inquiry was about the Bohica website and lack of updates, hence that inevitably being brought up.


It is all still speculation in regards to Bohica's upper.

For those that question the design of the Bohica bolt, Take a look at this Steyr HS50.  Don't think the would use the design if it was faulty.

Enough with the insults and nonsense in one of the most technical forums of the site.  Please start another thread when FACTS become available.  Also, EVERYONE please be mindful of the fact ALL posts in a technical forum are expected to be on-topic, polit