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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:50:56 PM EDT
I've got cans, SBRs and MGs but it's time for my first SBS. I really like the 870 and 590a1. I've shot both in full size but not the sbs versions. Which one would you get and why?
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flip a coin or buy whatever one you prefer, regardless both are fine choices. Me personally I stick with 870's for commonality with all my other shotguns.
870's get the nod IMHO as better for a pistol grip because of the location of the safety, on 500's you have to take your shooting hand off the grip to disengage the safety on top of the receiver 500's get a slight nod for being a bit more ambidextrous of a gun in a traditional stock configuration with the safety on top of the receiver |
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Quoted: flip a coin or buy whatever one you prefer, regardless both are fine choices. Me personally I stick with 870's for commonality with all my other shotguns. View Quote 870's get the nod IMHO as better for a pistol grip because of the location of the safety, on 500's you have to take your shooting hand off the grip to disengage the safety on top of the receiver 500's get a slight nod for being a bit more ambidextrous of a gun in a traditional stock configuration with the safety on top of the receiver This But: I am a 590a1 guy. I do not have to move my hand from the grip to push the safety to fire, but I do slightly to put it on safe. The A1 is the thicker barreled model, dual claw extractors, metal trigger group, the feed elavator stores tucked up and away so you can load the mag tube easier. Yes the ejector is a bitch if it breaks. Lasty there are a SHIT ton of police trade in 590a1 for sale right now, in the $275 range with surefire lights... Get both. |
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Quoted: 870's get the nod IMHO as better for a pistol grip because of the location of the safety, on 500's you have to take your shooting hand off the grip to disengage the safety on top of the receiver View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: flip a coin or buy whatever one you prefer, regardless both are fine choices. Me personally I stick with 870's for commonality with all my other shotguns. 870's get the nod IMHO as better for a pistol grip because of the location of the safety, on 500's you have to take your shooting hand off the grip to disengage the safety on top of the receiver 500's get a slight nod for being a bit more ambidextrous of a gun in a traditional stock configuration with the safety on top of the receiver This But: I am a 590a1 guy. I do not have to move my hand from the grip to push the safety to fire, but I do slightly to put it on safe. The A1 is the thicker barreled model, dual claw extractors, metal trigger group, the feed elavator stores tucked up and away so you can load the mag tube easier. Yes the ejector is a bitch if it breaks. Lasty there are a SHIT ton of police trade in 590a1 for sale right now, in the $275 range with surefire lights... Get both. That's the only appropriate answer in this case....you know....just to be sure |
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Quoted: There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 |
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There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg this is a legit arfcommer? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg this is a legit arfcommer? But there is a dealer on the boards here that says he has a bunch of the same guns for the same price as these.
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There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg I'll take them all. But seriously, I'd love to get a 14" barrel on my 870. |
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The one I linked might be*? But there is a dealer on the boards here that says he has a bunch of the same guns for the same price as these. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg this is a legit arfcommer? But there is a dealer on the boards here that says he has a bunch of the same guns for the same price as these. please,,, please Someone PM his info!.. where do you get the rounded pistol grip? i cant find one anywhere. |
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Quoted: please,,, please Someone PM his info!.. where do you get the rounded pistol grip? i cant find one anywhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right t this is a legit arfcommer? But there is a dealer on the boards here that says he has a bunch of the same guns for the same price as these. please,,, please Someone PM his info!.. where do you get the rounded pistol grip? i cant find one anywhere. |
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Mossberg 500 / 590
The main reason is the magazine tube. On the Mossberg, it's threaded into the receiver...this means I can swap out a two round tube for an 8 round tube, or anything in between. I also like the light weight aluminum receiver, but that's second to the mag tube. |
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where do you get the rounded pistol grip? i cant find one anywhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes where do you get the rounded pistol grip? i cant find one anywhere. |
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There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg This is a legit dealer in Ohio, I just bought one today. |
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Quoted: This is a legit dealer in Ohio, I just bought one today. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg This is a legit dealer in Ohio, I just bought one today. |
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg This is a legit dealer in Ohio, I just bought one today. $275 shipped |
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I just called in an order too. He said that he sold 30-something of them today.
I was looking going through the paperwork for my 20" 590, but this one seemed like a good deal to me. CHRIS |
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Just ordered one today as well. Sure beats the GB used one for 500.00, and the new one for 580.00 with no light or speedfeed
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There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 So will these be double taxed? Once for the Form 3 and again for the Form 4? |
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So will these be double taxed? Once for the Form 3 and again for the Form 4? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. There is a seller on ARFcom too but, you would need to find him. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 So will these be double taxed? Once for the Form 3 and again for the Form 4? Negative, ships free to your SOT. Then the form 4 to you |
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Quoted: Negative, ships free to your SOT. Then the form 4 to you View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there.http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg So will these be double taxed? Once for the Form 3 and again for the Form 4? Negative, ships free to your SOT. Then the form 4 to you |
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Negative, ships free to your SOT. Then the form 4 to you View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there.http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg So will these be double taxed? Once for the Form 3 and again for the Form 4? Negative, ships free to your SOT. Then the form 4 to you Are there extensive wait times with Form 3s from the ATF to "Ok" the transfer from one dealer to the other? I have only completed Form 1s so forgive my ignorance. |
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Quoted: Are there extensive wait times with Form 3s from the ATF to "Ok" the transfer from one dealer to the other? I have only completed Form 1s so forgive my ignorance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Links? I'm not finding them, except the 500.00 one on GB.. ghost sights, speed stock, and a light are worth 3/4th the price right there.http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=171169 http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/voiinc/0122151328_zpsszd5hrvl.jpg So will these be double taxed? Once for the Form 3 and again for the Form 4? Negative, ships free to your SOT. Then the form 4 to you Are there extensive wait times with Form 3s from the ATF to "Ok" the transfer from one dealer to the other? I have only completed Form 1s so forgive my ignorance. 3-8 weeks right now, form 3 dealer to dealer. based on a limited sample is about 8 weeks form 4 "Individual to dealer " And form 4 dealer to Individual/trust 100 days +/- 20days |
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Chas, I really, really wish you hadn't posted about that sturmgewehr ad. When I checked it out, I had to buy 11 of 'em.
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11? nice. did you get a Volume discount? I could use a 2nd SBS, I was thinking a Sagia but These Damn 590 are so nice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Chas, I really, really wish you hadn't posted about that sturmgewehr ad. When I checked it out, I had to buy 11 of 'em. 11? nice. did you get a Volume discount? I could use a 2nd SBS, I was thinking a Sagia but These Damn 590 are so nice. My son, the 07/02, handled it, so I have no idea what he paid for them ... it was just such a deal at $275 delivered -- as you said, the ghost-ring sights, light and SpeedFeed stock are worth more than that. Actually, they will be going to his shop inventory for future projects. |
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Quoted: My son, the 07/02, handled it, so I have no idea what he paid for them ... it was just such a deal at $275 delivered -- as you said, the ghost-ring sights, light and SpeedFeed stock are worth more than that. Actually, they will be going to his shop inventory for future projects. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Chas, I really, really wish you hadn't posted about that sturmgewehr ad. When I checked it out, I had to buy 11 of 'em. 11? nice. did you get a Volume discount? I could use a 2nd SBS, I was thinking a Sagia but These Damn 590 are so nice. My son, the 07/02, handled it, so I have no idea what he paid for them ... it was just such a deal at $275 delivered -- as you said, the ghost-ring sights, light and SpeedFeed stock are worth more than that. Actually, they will be going to his shop inventory for future projects. |
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this is a photo of a benelli sbs similar to mine, got it from snapshots: http://www.mossbergmvp.com/index.php?threads/benelli-nova-tactical.82/
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Quoted: My son, the 07/02, handled it, so I have no idea what he paid for them ... it was just such a deal at $275 delivered -- as you said, the ghost-ring sights, light and SpeedFeed stock are worth more than that. Actually, they will be going to his shop inventory for future projects. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Chas, I really, really wish you hadn't posted about that sturmgewehr ad. When I checked it out, I had to buy 11 of 'em. 11? nice. did you get a Volume discount? I could use a 2nd SBS, I was thinking a Sagia but These Damn 590 are so nice. My son, the 07/02, handled it, so I have no idea what he paid for them ... it was just such a deal at $275 delivered -- as you said, the ghost-ring sights, light and SpeedFeed stock are worth more than that. Actually, they will be going to his shop inventory for future projects. I know I want a saGia 12. I found a local S20 for $7/750 but damn it's not a12 |
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Cool deal! I'm gonna look for a used 870 when I get home to do this with. Worst case I'll buy another express and do it on that, but I'd rather get a used wingmaster for around the same price and use that instead.
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I guess he doesn't have any, SBS 590A1, left and I can't find his info anywhere.
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My 590a1 SBS arrived at my SOTs on Friday and looks great, and even had a One small ding on the receiver and a little barrel wear but overall, it was better than I expected!! Form 4 goes out today (trust), so hopefully only 90 days or so.
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My 590a1 SBS arrived at my SOTs on Friday and looks great, and even had a One small ding on the receiver and a little barrel wear but overall, it was better than I expected!! Form 4 goes out today (trust), so hopefully only 90 days or so. View Quote Our 11 590A1's arrived today. All were packed in one big box and it was a little worse for wear, and a corner had opened up. All 11 were present, but one was missing the front sight -- I'm guessing that when the box split a corner from being mishandled en route, the sight was knocked off. Otherwise, all appear fine: A few storage and handling marks (mostly on the receivers and buttstocks; the barrels and tubes are perfect). Most appear unfired, or fired very little, though all have been racked a lot during drills. The serial number of one is the month, year and day that I turned 18, so I'm keeping that one; the SN of another is the year and month that my son the SOT was born, so he's keeping that one. Out of 11 examples ... what are the odds of that happening? |
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Mossberg decided to stop selling 14" front end parts to "civilians". Apparently police aren't civilians anymore because Mossberg is happy to sell to your LE agency or the DoD.
The non-NFA 14" Mossberg didn't set well with them apparently. Prices for 14" parts have skyrocketed. |
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