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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2012 4:37:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
Misery loves company.
I just hit the 100 day mark. <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"><edited to bold and highlight title....dpmmn> |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 10:04:52 AM EDT
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I wonder how fast they will get thru the Post41F filings? Seams like the huge influx of forms did not slow them down too bad.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 2:01:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By l_Ferret_l:
Griffin Armament M4SDK Purchased 6/27/16 Pending 7/6/16 Approved 4/23/17 Stamp at dealer ???? Silencerco Omega 9k Purchased 6/27/16 Pending 7/6/16 Approved 4/23/17 Stamp at dealer ???? |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 3:35:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
I wonder how fast they will get thru the Post41F filings? Seams like the huge influx of forms did not slow them down too bad. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:45:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun:
It's taken them around 3 weeks to complete a day or two worth of forms and we haven't even hit the redonk amount of forms SS sent out in the later weeks of pre 41F. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:55:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Form 4 Trust
Griffin Armament M4SD II Purchased 6/28/16 Pending 7/6/16 Approved 4/19/17 Stamp at dealer 4/28/17 And I picked up a Bergara B-14 HMR while I was there 
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Posted: 4/28/2017 9:35:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Woodsrider]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delirious1:
Yep, at this rate, Ill get all my capitol armory purchases before my SS purchases. Even though my CA purchases were after SS. SS bulk shipped everything at one time. Ive already got an email one of my CA purchases is ready for pickup. 
So, what does "Form 3 Disposed" mean? I see on my account page at SS website that my form 3 status was changed from "approved" to Disposed" on 4/26/17 Order placed: 6/2/2016 Form 3 Status: Disposed 4/26/2017 Form 4 Status: Submitted 7/5/2016 |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 11:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Woodsrider:
So, what does "Form 3 Disposed" mean? I see on my account page at SS website that my form 3 status was changed from "approved" to Disposed" on 4/26/17 Order placed: 6/2/2016 Form 3 Status: Disposed 4/26/2017 Form 4 Status: Submitted 7/5/2016 |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:36:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Texas Form 4 Gemtech GM-9
Purchased - 05/01/2016 Pending - 06/18/2106 Approved - 04/19/2017 Received - 04/29/2017 From womb to tomb in just under a year. I'm all finished with anything NFA "for now". I honestly don't know if it's even worth it to me, anymore. |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 11:27:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NDT3:
2 Sakers. 762 and a 556 Pending June 30th 2016 Approved April 5th and 6th 2017 Stamp Arrived: waiting..... Unreal how long it is taking to get these two cans. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NDT3:
Originally Posted By NDT3:
As of todays date it has been 9 months since two form 4s went pending for two Sakers. Add on top of that the 4 month wait for the form 3s and I am at 13 months. What a bunch of fricken BS. Pending June 30th 2016 Approved April 5th and 6th 2017 Stamp Arrived: waiting..... Unreal how long it is taking to get these two cans. 2 Sakers. 762 and a 556 Pending June 30th 2016 Approved April 5th and 6th 2017 Stamps Arrived: 5-1-17 |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2017 11:57:18 AM EDT
[#10]
I know this is for updates on approvals so go ahead and delete if need be.... But why such a huge range of time from purchased to pending on these? Some guys have like a couple day split and some have over a month.
I'm still pending 7/12 fwiw |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 2:38:28 PM EDT
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My 7/18 pending date is still pending as of yet, as well. I'm confused by the spread in the approval times. Seems there's recent approvals coming in for mailing dates between early June and mid July. With the volume of forms submitted during these times, this seems like a wide spread.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2017 8:55:27 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stinkbait82:
Omega Form 4 Trust Pending date 7/11 Approved 4/21 |
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Posted: 5/2/2017 9:25:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Dead Air Ghost-M:
Form 4 trust. Mailed 7/5/16 Pending 7/8/16 Approved 4/26/17 Stamp not at dealer yet. |
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Posted: 5/2/2017 4:14:49 PM EDT
[#14]
How do you know when a paper form 4 has been approved?
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Posted: 5/2/2017 6:22:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
How do you know when a paper form 4 has been approved? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2017 7:05:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Trust F4
Submitted 06/10/2016 Pending ~ 07/05/2016 Approved 04/15/2017 Stamp arrived 05/02/2017 297 days from pending to stamp. |
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Posted: 5/2/2017 8:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder:
You are dealer will let you know when they get it. I've seen forms submitted and charged after mine have been already approved, I'm pretty excited.
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Posted: 5/2/2017 9:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Thanks. I've seen forms submitted and charged after mine have been already approved, I'm pretty excited. Purchased: 6-28 Pending: 7-14 and as of last Friday was still pending. Form 4trust |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 9:38:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SmokeEater2]
[#19]
Two cans, Checkmate QD and 7.62 SD purchased from SS on 6/14/2016.
Form 3 Status: Disposed 9/14/2016 on both. Form 4 Status: Submitted 7/7/2016 on both. Not a friggin' thing yet on Form 4's.
I'm going to attempt to contact the ATF speed demons today and try to get some kind of time frame. This eternal wait crap sucks donkey balls. 
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:40:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2:
Two cans, Checkmate QD and 7.62 SD purchased from SS on 6/14/2016. Form 3 Status: Disposed 9/14/2016 on both. Form 4 Status: Submitted 7/7/2016 on both. Not a friggin' thing yet on Form 4's.
I'm going to attempt to contact the ATF speed demons today and try to get some kind of time frame. This eternal wait crap sucks donkey balls. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:58:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2:
Two cans, Checkmate QD and 7.62 SD purchased from SS on 6/14/2016. Form 3 Status: Disposed 9/14/2016 on both. Form 4 Status: Submitted 7/7/2016 on both. Not a friggin' thing yet on Form 4's.
I'm going to attempt to contact the ATF speed demons today and try to get some kind of time frame. This eternal wait crap sucks donkey balls. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 11:00:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Just got off the phone with the ATF. They said my form 4's would be approved by the end of the month.
The robo-chick that answers the phone said that current form 4 wait times are 8 months. 
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Posted: 5/3/2017 11:02:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delirious1:
SS bulked shipped most of their Purchases all at once. So my June 16 purchase/ July 7 submitted was pending July 22. I bet that's what the ATF will tell you. I'm not happy with the bulk mail deal, but it is what it is. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 11:26:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Woodsrider]
[#24]
I think its time to tell those in in the NFA industry that if they want any more of our money, its time to lobby for 30 day processing of NFA paperwork.
Today marks 11 months from the date SS charged me for my cans and tax stamps, and there is still no sign of my form 4s being approved.  Attached File |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 12:29:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JayRock-PHX]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Woodsrider:
I think its time to tell those in in the NFA industry that if they want any more of our money, its time to lobby for 30 day processing of NFA paperwork. Today marks 11 months from the date SS charged me for my cans and tax stamps, and there is still no sign of my form 4s being approved. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/179894/Capture-200785.JPG I'm gonna apply for my sot so atleast I can partake in being able to receive NFA items a little quicker and play with them on a form 3. Cuz this personal wait time of 11 months makes this investment retarded. It's not even an investment really. When it comes to cans the wait time and tax stamps if you wanted to resell is too much. Other than a mg that's the only investment that works. Btw I'm a 7/6 submittal too. And I think I've seen a few after mine that's been approved. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 12:36:50 PM EDT
[#26]
yeah I have two that sitting at 335 and 358 days since purchase...submitted on 7/4 and pending 7/12 and 7/13 and still pending as of Monday.
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Posted: 5/3/2017 1:02:19 PM EDT
[#27]
I've got a 7/18 pending
Form was mailed out July 12th...(or whatever the last day it had to be postmarked by, was) |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 1:08:20 PM EDT
[#28]
I agree that SS's truckload of forms made for a cool picture, but it seems they had forms in there from back to the middle of June and right up to the limit. My July 5 order among them. Not a good service to those who bought earlier because it brought them all "down" to the same level.
Rob |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 1:29:32 PM EDT
[#29]
My SS 6 June purchase went pending 22 July along with my 7 July purchase. IMO, not the best strategy to grow the company.
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Posted: 5/3/2017 1:38:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2:
Yup. They said mine was pending July 21st.
So much for 7/7 Its the 1st time I called. I figured I was farther along being it was transfered to my dealer in Sept. This will push mine to close to a year. Starting date 6/10 |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 3:04:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teddydog:
I agree that SS's truckload of forms made for a cool picture, but it seems they had forms in there from back to the middle of June and right up to the limit. My July 5 order among them. Not a good service to those who bought earlier because it brought them all "down" to the same level. Rob |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 3:13:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Woodsrider:
Yep. Their shortsighted publicity stunt screwed a lot of us over by grouping the June purchases in with the deadline rush. Holding a months worth of forms or more, just to get a picture. Any future purchases I make will not go through SS. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 4:39:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2:
Yup. They said mine was pending July 21st. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2:
Originally Posted By delirious1:
SS bulked shipped most of their Purchases all at once. So my June 16 purchase/ July 7 submitted was pending July 22. I bet that's what the ATF will tell you. I'm not happy with the bulk mail deal, but it is what it is. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 5:06:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: delirious1]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flagflyfish:
Yep, Mine was mailed from SS with submittal date of 7/5 and a pending date of 7/21......I don't know if it is all SS or not but the wait times are BS... Oops 
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Posted: 5/3/2017 5:23:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Trust F3 - Griffin Resistance
Purchased 04/28/2016 Form 3 approved 07/08/2016 Approved 04/15/2017 Stamp arrived 05/01/2017 |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 5:35:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delirious1:
Put them all in big boxes they said. Will save You money on shipping they said. Bet mine is in the third box down on the far right Oops http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/DrMatthew/55f9c6ff929e24451a152705244323aa_zpsfe4exg1y.jpg They could have walked them over there daily. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 7:04:40 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder:
And the post office was less then a block away as you turn right out of the shopping center they are in. They could have walked them over there daily. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 7:13:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Woodsrider:
Notice the article is careful not to disclose how many days, weeks, or months worth of forms were in that pick up bed. But ive been buying from Capitol armory since SS changed their business model. I feel for the guys caught up in it and I do think dumping all the forms at once compounded the backlog. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 8:17:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder:
I've heard a lot of people saying the same thing. Bunch of guys are pissed at SS Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder:
Originally Posted By Woodsrider:
Yep. Their shortsighted publicity stunt screwed a lot of us over by grouping the June purchases in with the deadline rush. Holding a months worth of forms or more, just to get a picture. Any future purchases I make will not go through SS. Imagine the shitstorm if half or a quarter of those forms got kicked back for no form 3 approved. We were all guessing back then how bad it would be. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:50:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: delirious1]
[#40]
Well, around the June 2016 time frame, the ATF concentrated on form 3s. Faster than form 4s. SS knew this and said this in an old post on the forum and knew that approaching the cutoff, both forms would be sent around the same time and not half. Altered their policy, yes, bet they really didn't put their buts on the line if the ATF alluded form 3 would take precedence over 4s Nor would they have a choice in order to postmark form 4s in time.
At any rate, its done and over with. Im sure it was a stressful time for them to make deadlines with last minute orders |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 11:55:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: geauxtac308]
[#41]
Dead Air Mask
Purchased (Trust) - January 2016 Form 4 pending - July 11, 2016 (ugh, long story) Form 4 approved - April 26 Form 4 to dealer - May 3 |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 12:02:35 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By geauxtac308:
Dead Air Mask Purchased (Trust) - January 2016 Form 4 pending - July 11, 2016 (ugh, long story) Form 4 approved - April 26 Form 4 to dealer - May 3 |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 1:35:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: msu33]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flagflyfish:
Yep, Mine was mailed from SS with submittal date of 7/5 and a pending date of 7/21......I don't know if it is all SS or not but the wait times are BS... |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 2:37:56 PM EDT
[#44]
The odd part is wouldnt the post office pick they up?
They come for my mail everyday... |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 2:41:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Form 4 Trust
SiCo Octane 9HD 6/24/2016 Form 4 Signed 4/28/2017 Form 4 Approved 5/04/2017 Form 4 with stamp arrived at dealer, picked up |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 3:20:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Wait, you're all upset with SS because they "held" your form 4 so late? I thought legally the form 4 shouldn't be submitted until the form 3 was disposed? SS, trying to cut time, was willing to submit the 4 PRIOR to most people's form 3 approval. Sounds like you should be thanking them and not bitching about them.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 3:43:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Teddydog]
[#47]
Correct. To a point. But SS was advertising that they would guarantee submission before the cutoff and they have long had a practice of sending Form 4s before completion of Form 3s. I didn't get in until almost the end (1 week before the cutoff), so I am NOT complaining about that. What I was saying is that those who did get in earlier, like early to mid June, could have (should have?) had their forms sent in earlier to get in process before the final last minute guys (like myself). Would have been more of a steady flow rather than an overturned bucket. And hopefully ensure that those buying June 15 would be in line ahead of July 5 (like me), rather than all of us in line at the same point where mine might get done a month or more ahead of a June purchase just because mine happened to be grabbed from the pile first.
I do not think that ATF is looking at a "form completed" date (say June 15) to put it in place ahead of "form completed July 5". To ATF, it is almost certainly "all pending 7/22" so that there will be no first in-first out based on actual purchase ("form completed") date. Rob |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 4:00:23 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how the intake of all the forms went, I know I had purchased a griffin alpha late June and a rugged Obsidian right at cutoff from SS. My alpha has a pending of July 15, where my Obsidian is july 21. These were both mailed same day. I'd love to be a fly on the wall and hear the "well shit where do we start."
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 4:59:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Seaking with a ATF rep today and the outlook is about 2 months to get through July forms. So I figure my July 21st pending should clear sometime after July 4th.
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Posted: 5/4/2017 6:28:45 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teddydog:
Correct. To a point. But SS was advertising that they would guarantee submission before the cutoff and they have long had a practice of sending Form 4s before completion of Form 3s. I didn't get in until almost the end (1 week before the cutoff), so I am NOT complaining about that. What I was saying is that those who did get in earlier, like early to mid June, could have (should have?) had their forms sent in earlier to get in process before the final last minute guys (like myself). Would have been more of a steady flow rather than an overturned bucket. And hopefully ensure that those buying June 15 would be in line ahead of July 5 (like me), rather than all of us in line at the same point where mine might get done a month or more ahead of a June purchase just because mine happened to be grabbed from the pile first. I do not think that ATF is looking at a "form completed" date (say June 15) to put it in place ahead of "form completed July 5". To ATF, it is almost certainly "all pending 7/22" so that there will be no first in-first out based on actual purchase ("form completed") date. Rob |
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