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Posted: 3/9/2011 4:27:31 AM EDT
Now that i have bought my 22 surpressor(liberty kodiak TL) i need a 45acp surpressor.
What do yall recomend between the osprey and the tirant? |
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I bought an Osprey .45 and it's proven to be a great can for all of my centerfire handguns.
You really can't go too far wrong with either. Get the best deal you can, and go from there. |
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Whichever is in stock and whatever the better deal is. It really is a coin toss and either one will serve you equally well.
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I've heard a lot of good things about both, but (only my opinion) the Osprey is ugly. I will be going with a TiRant .45 very very soon.
If you like the looks of the Osprey I hear that they perform very well, I just like the looks of the TiRant. |
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They both work very well to suppress .45acp to hearing safe levels. I personally went with the Osprey just because I found it balanced better when attached to a pistol. The AAC TiRant was more front heavy when attached to a pistol.
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I'm in the same boat, but 9mm. I've been waiting for an Octane, but I'm going to change my order tomorrow. I'm leaning towards the Osprey. I like the looks and profile of the can, plus Silencerco seems to be a hell of a company. I'm already waiting on a SS Sparrow that should be at my local dealer soon. I do like that the Ti-Rant can be indexed and disassembled though. It really is a toss-up.
ETA: Bought the Osprey |
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As soon as my dealer gets in the .45 Ospreys, I will be doing my paperwork that evening. I met the guys from Silencerco at shot last year and they and they were awesome to talk with and I just knew when the time for a .45 can I would be getting one of theirs.
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Here's my opinion on these two cans:
Tirant +: Lighter Sounds quieter to human ear according to most first hand reports User serviceable and cleanable Can be indexed, to change point of impact Piston changes are quick and tool-less Low first round pop Tirant -: Looks strange because it's so freaking long Costs more If tube is damaged - you're screwed Obscures sights more Osprey +: Cheaper Meters quieter on electronic meter. Obscures sights less Shape makes it apparent if it starts to loosen If tube is damaged, entire front half is replaceable Osprey -: Louder first round pop Not user serviceable Looks strange because it's so freaking square Slower piston changes - requires tools? |
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Here's my opinion on these two cans: Tirant +: Lighter Sounds quieter to human ear according to most first hand reports User serviceable and cleanable Can be indexed, to change point of impact Piston changes are quick and tool-less Low first round pop Tirant -: Looks strange because it's so freaking long Costs more If tube is damaged - you're screwed Obscures sights more Osprey +: Cheaper Meters quieter on electronic meter. Obscures sights less Shape makes it apparent if it starts to loosen If tube is damaged, entire front half is replaceable Osprey -: Louder first round pop Not user serviceable Looks strange because it's so freaking square Slower piston changes - requires tools? go to a good dealer and they are the same price. not sure where you got your data from, but form the tests i've seen, they meter about the same. Slight edge going to the tirant, but it's very close the osprey is actually lighter. look here.http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59299 seriously, just pick which ever one looks better to you |
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the osprey is actually lighter. Not after the Tirant has the lead and carbon cleaned out of it. |
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the osprey is actually lighter. Not after the Tirant has the lead and carbon cleaned out of it. ha, with all that carbon build up that comes from a .45....I wonder how many shots it really does take before there would be a noticeable db difference though. I mean, like a difference of 5 or more db. It has to be an absurd amount. |
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the osprey is actually lighter. Not after the Tirant has the lead and carbon cleaned out of it. ????? AAC says only the piston is removable and cleanable. Not the baffle stack. |
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go with Osprey because
-it's shorter and achieves the same db on paper as TiRant -ability to holster because where are you going to put it when you're loading rounds into your magazines -serialized part is less likely to be damaged. ETA ????? AAC says only the piston is removable and cleanable. Not the baffle stack. from AAC website: "For 2011, users will be able to remove the 17-4 PH stainless steel and hard coat anodized 7075-T6 aluminum alloy baffles from the Grade 9 Titanium tube for cleaning and maintenance using a supplied end cap spanner. " |
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go with Osprey because -it's shorter and achieves the same db on paper as TiRant -ability to holster because where are you going to put it when you're loading rounds into your magazines -serialized part is less likely to be damaged. ETA ????? AAC says only the piston is removable and cleanable. Not the baffle stack. from AAC website: "For 2011, users will be able to remove the 17-4 PH stainless steel and hard coat anodized 7075-T6 aluminum alloy baffles from the Grade 9 Titanium tube for cleaning and maintenance using a supplied end cap spanner. " holstering a suppressed pistol really isn't that cool and is pretty damn difficult to find a holster to fit a suppressor. Further more, you couldn't pay me to holster a suppresed pistol that had been used very much. It would rape your thigh. We could honestly go back and forth like this all day, just pick which ever you think looks cooler. I went osprey, but will probably buy a tirant at some point in the future or until they come up with something cooler <edit> the serialized part is a good point though. I also like how they offered to upgrade the sparrow, so wishful thinking suggests that maybe they would do the same for the osprey if they ever upgrade it. |
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Both are great cans with great support
The tirant comes apart and I like that even ifc its not needed for 10k rounds. they are both very efficient suppressors. They are hard to tell apart when shot side by side. |
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I like the fact that the AAC can be stripped down for cleaning.
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My stamped Form4 just came it today for my 45 TiRant. I went right from the gun shop to the range and put 150 rounds through it. Man this thing is quiet with 230 gr fmj (most 230 gr. fmj is sub-sonic). I went with the TiRant because I didn't like the way the Ospray looked on my FNP-45 Tactical. Even though it has the general shape of the FNP the suppressor does have larger dimensions and because there is almost a 1" gap between the end of the slide and suppressor it looked goofy to me. I like the looks of a round can on this particular weapon better. Pics to follow shortly.
ETA: My stamped Form4 took exactly 12 weeks to the day, mailbox to mailbox. MadDog |
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My stamped Form4 just came it today for my 45 TiRant. I went right from the gun shop to the range and put 150 rounds through it. Man this thing is quiet with 230 gr fmj (most 230 gr. fmj is sub-sonic). I went with the TiRant because I didn't like the way the Ospray looked on my FNP-45 Tactical. Even though it has the general shape of the FNP the suppressor does have larger dimensions and because there is almost a 1" gap between the end of the slide and suppressor it looked goofy to me. I like the looks of a round can on this particular weapon better. Pics to follow shortly. ETA: My stamped Form4 took exactly 12 weeks to the day, mailbox to mailbox. MadDog no go shoot it wet, if you haven't already |
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I went with the Ti-Rant and am glad I did. I tried a friends Ospray on my FNP45-Tactical and did not like the way it looked. Since the db suppresson is almost identical and the weight is almost the same, the Ti-Rant was a no-brainer for me. MadDog http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4707/tirant029.jpg http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5507/tirant018.jpg http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3272/tirant023.jpg Have you seen the new flush fit Tirant .45 pistons? It might not be worth it to you as they only reduce the overall suppressor length by 3/8" or so, but they are an option for the FN .45 because the barrel already has such a long exposure out of the front of the slide. I have a USP tactical and am seriously thinking of getting the FN because I have a fastfire on my Glock and I really like it - (not an option with the USP). Have you had any ammo feeding problems with your FN? |
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cchurchi: I have one of the "flush fit" pistons on order. No problems with any ammo I have tried (about 6 or 7 different brands so far).
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I went with the Ti-Rant and am glad I did. I tried a friends Ospray on my FNP45-Tactical and did not like the way it looked. Since the db suppresson is almost identical and the weight is almost the same, the Ti-Rant was a no-brainer for me. MadDog http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4707/tirant029.jpg http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5507/tirant018.jpg http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3272/tirant023.jpg Did that case come with the Tactical? It's a pretty sweet setup. |
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something to think about.... there's pretty massive wait on ospreys just about everywhere. I've been waiting just to get the can in stock so I can send off my paperwork
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clivus:
The case comes standard with the FNP45 Tactical. There is a small parts pouch that the optic mounting plates comes in and two mag pouches. The fourth pouch had the cable lock in it which I trashed and put my suppressor in it's place. MadDog |
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TiRant b/c i've heard the two first hand and i own the better one.
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Remember that what the human ear hears is different than what meters pick up.
The Osprey meters better than the Gemtech multimount, but when I ran my Multimount against my friend's Osprey I was surprised that myself and others thought the Multimount sounded quieter. Kinda like how the KAC rifle can's numbers aren't so hot, but in person they sound great. |
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Stoneman, remember, I told you, a friend of mine whose father is a Silencerco dealer came to my house with his Osprey 45. We shot the Osprey and the TiRant side by side on a Sig Combat and on a Glock 21. We shot both suppressors dry. We switched both suppressors around from host to host. You should have seen the look on his dad's face when he had to say "The TiRant's quieter." We also listened to both suppressors on both different hosts from about 30 yards away. TiRant .45 was still quieter. We did not shoot wet because that would negate the purpose of having a can that is supposed to quiet when shot dry.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/enj0i2001/FN45TacticalandAACTiRant45.jpg |
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