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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - April 15th, 2009.. NOT 2010!! Tax Day... That happiest time of year.... GEMTAX TIME!!! (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 4/15/2009 2:03:50 PM EDT
***Edit Mar 13, 2010: Edited the post title this fine morning to clarify the year-date, as we near close to the anniversary of this post, to make sure new readers know this information pertains to the event we did LAST YEAR. This data is not pertinent to 2010, FYI.But I'd stay tuned to see if anything interesting happens. Kel It's April 15th, Tax Day... That happiest time of year.... GEMTAX TIME!!! Always ones to take negative economic news with a sense of humor and following our tradition of always trying to help folks in the suppressor community find a bright side, GEMTECH announces a unique suppressor event that's never been done by a manufacturer before. We're turning "tax time" into "Gemtax time"! So we humbly submit our way of giving back and helping out the community that might be strapped for tax dollars this time of year: From today, Tax Day, April 15th through the end of the month, while The Man is taking your hard-earned money, GEMTECH offers something big back to you: WE PAY YOUR TAX!!! Details: Purchase a GEMTECH TUNDRA suppressor, the class-leading compact 9mm silencer from your favorite FFL/SOT dealer between April 15 and April 30th and Gemtech will pay your $200 NFA Transfer tax for you! 
With your dealer's assistance, complete your Form 4 with local CLEO or Trust/Corp data, etc., Fingerprint Cards, Certificate of Compliance – Get everything all done and ready to go to BATF... except that nasty $200 dollar check made out to the Feds. Don't worry about that during Gemtax time - This one's on us. Instead of sending it to BATFE, send your completed Form 4 package to Gemtech along with a copy of your dated sales receipt for your TUNDRA suppressor. (We strongly and politely suggest you send your submission in a trackable manner, so a.) it gets here, and b.) you don't have to call us on the half-hour for the next two weeks, asking "Umm... Hey, sorry to bug you, but I'm just checking if you got my envelope yet?" From there, WE PAY YOUR TAX!!! for you and Priority Mail it in to ATF for processing. We'll send you notification via email or USPS as to the date it was sent in to BATFE for processing. It's up to the always friendly and efficient NFA Instrument Examiners to take it from that point. (Hi, Ted!) They'll approve the thing eventually, provided you're not the town bad guy, didn't do something wrong on your forms, etc. After what seems like forever, but really isn't that long in the grand scheme of things, the BATFE will send the approved transfer to your dealer with a pretty $200 dollar tax stamp glued in the upper right hand corner –– which will always be a cheery reminder of that special time of year when GEMTECH paid your tax for you. 
Small Print #1: Look, for your own man-sake here, don't embarrass yourself by being a whiner - we're trying to do something nice here, so if you already bought a TUNDRA just prior to the sale, hey –– suck it up enjoy your cool, industry-leading silencer, and drive on, you know? Companies run coupons and sales all the time with start and expiration dates. But, we're Gemtech, and thus we're all about showing a little love to our early-adopters and fans, so as a goodwill gesture, we'll send you a Gemtech hat if you send us proof of purchase/Form 4 copy for your TUNDRA made already this year (purchased Jan 1, 2009 through April 30, 2009, contact us for details). Small Print #2: Ok, so you're thinking "Wow, I don't mind spending money with a good American firearms company like Gemtech, and it sure chaps my butt to give another red cent to the government, so I think I'm going to run down to my local FFL/SOT and get on this unique opportunity today!"... …but your dealer doesn't have one in stock! Crap! What do you do now? (Tell your dealer to keep more on hand!). Look, no problem: We've got hundreds on the shelf right now. 
So get to your dealer this week and order one or more (yeah, because *some* guy is going to ask - yes, you can buy a mess of them and we'll still hook you up paying the taxes... why not?). If you order with your dealer before April 30th, it's going to take roughly 45 days maximum to have NFA Branch approve one from Gemtech to your dealer. When your dealer gets it in, get hustling, complete your Form 4, and get it in to us before June 15th with your proof of purchase that you bought it between April 15 and 30th, and we'll *still* write that $200 dollar check for you. This offer ends entirely on June 15th ––So make sure your dealer actually orders it from us you when you order it from him! Small Print #3: Complete your forms correctly. We'll send them back to you without a check if they aren't submitted done right. Sorry, but no, we can't help you get your own fingerprints (unless you also send us your fingers), nail down a CLEO signoff, establish a corporation in Nevada for you, or provide you with a bootleg copy of Quicken Willmaker for your Dell PC running Vista, etc. If you can't complete the forms, you can't participate in the offer. See your dealer early for assistance to get that Form 4 done in time to participate in this offer.
Happy Tax Day! TEAM GEMTECH |
I need one like nobody's business.
| This is why I decided on GemTech as my 1st suppressor! THIS is why I support my local business's (I live in Idaho Falls) THIS is why GemTech is getting my business. Unfortunately, I am scraping the money together for their G5, so this offer doesn't help me at all...... but I can now say, GEM-TECH ROCKS! Very cool offer for those that need a 9mm can. |
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Kudos to Gemtech for a cool idea. But, how long are form 2s (dealer to dealer) taking these days? About 3-4 weeks. But, your dealer will have a copy of the Form 3 within 7-10 days of placing the order so that they have the serial number and all the information you need to get crackin' on getting a CLEO sign-off on your Form 4 (please don't send in your Form 4 until your dealer has the can in their hands). Plenty of time to get it into us before the June 15th cut-off. Just get down to your local Class III dealer and get one ordered before April 30th. Owen (other Team Gemtech guy) |
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Any pictures of the Flat Dark Earth Tundras? As pointed out, we make the TUNDRA suppressor in both matte black and FDE Tan. We're limited on the tan ones: They were made for an Army client, and there's not as many of the FDE ones left in stock as the black ones. Timer's ticking, get 'em while you can, Gemtax-free... :) Kel TEAM GEMTECH GUY 
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Any pictures of the Flat Dark Earth Tundras? As pointed out, we make the TUNDRA suppressor in both matte black and FDE Tan. We're limited on the tan ones: They were made for an Army client, and there's not as many of the FDE ones left in stock as the black ones. Timer's ticking, get 'em while you can, Gemtax-free... :) Kel TEAM GEMTECH GUY http://i40.tinypic.com/2u7q3aa.jpg I got mine ordered today, did not know they were limited. Good thing I did not waste any time. 
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You think it might be because they are the same diameter and then the only other factor would be thread pitch.Which is a pitch that is used by a number of manufacturers.
I also see the AAC Triad three lug adapter will work, But I'm sure that Gemtech would not warranty that. I wonder how they managed to make some thing that close that the triad will work on both  Gemtech that is |
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You think it might be because they are the same diameter and then the only other factor would be thread pitch.Which is a pitch that is used by a number of manufacturers.
I also see the AAC Triad three lug adapter will work, But I'm sure that Gemtech would not warranty that. I wonder how they managed to make some thing that close that the triad will work on both Gemtech that isThe piston system in the Tundra is almost exactly like the EVO. HMMMMMMMMM
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Well, if you all get the ATFE to resind "your" requested "clarification" on the rebuilding of cans and the paying of another TAX each time, maybe then I'll be able to forgive you.
Until then GEMTAX is a dirty word in my book. But cudos on your marketing deal paying the tax and all for your future customers that you all have already screwed over. Thanks to you all, all cans made by everyone are now "durable" items.  And no durable in this case doesn't mean that they are better.
Good luck getting anything replaced after it breaks or wears out boys. We can thank Gemtech for that. Hey don't be mad, you all brought up the Gem-TAX. 
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Well, if you all get the ATFE to resind "your" requested "clarification" on the rebuilding of cans and the paying of another TAX each time, maybe then I'll be able to forgive you. Until then GEMTAX is a dirty word in my book. But cudos on your marketing deal paying the tax and all for your future customers that you all have already screwed over. Thanks to you all, all cans made by everyone are now "durable" items. And no durable in this case doesn't mean that they are better.
Good luck getting anything replaced after it breaks or wears out boys. We can thank Gemtech for that. Hey don't be mad, you all brought up the Gem-TAX. You only have to pay tax again if the serialized tube is replaced. |
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Kind of how most of aac's internals a few years back were damn near identical to Gemtechs cans. Gemtech and aac have a history together and I dont know who's ideas were who's,but what I do know is that a lot of aac's designs were awfully similar to other stuff out there.On the other hand there is only so many different ways to shove some metal inside a metal tube.Most of the companies out there these days make a very nice product.One of the major things I look at is customer service and Gemtech has always treated me great along with a few other companies out there
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You think it might be because they are the same diameter and then the only other factor would be thread pitch.Which is a pitch that is used by a number of manufacturers.
I also see the AAC Triad three lug adapter will work, But I'm sure that Gemtech would not warranty that. I wonder how they managed to make some thing that close that the triad will work on both Gemtech that isThe piston system in the Tundra is almost exactly like the EVO. HMMMMMMMMM
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Well, if you all get the ATFE to resind "your" requested "clarification" on the rebuilding of cans and the paying of another TAX each time, maybe then I'll be able to forgive you. Until then GEMTAX is a dirty word in my book. But cudos on your marketing deal paying the tax and all for your future customers that you all have already screwed over. Thanks to you all, all cans made by everyone are now "durable" items. And no durable in this case doesn't mean that they are better.
Good luck getting anything replaced after it breaks or wears out boys. We can thank Gemtech for that. Hey don't be mad, you all brought up the Gem-TAX. Call me crazy but if I were a manufacturer I wouldn't want items that I had no involvement in running around carrying my name on the side. I don't fault Gemtech for the BATFE's faulty reasoning any more so than other can manufacturers who were doing some shady dealings IMO. |
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Well, if you all get the ATFE to resind "your" requested "clarification" on the rebuilding of cans and the paying of another TAX each time, maybe then I'll be able to forgive you. Until then GEMTAX is a dirty word in my book. But cudos on your marketing deal paying the tax and all for your future customers that you all have already screwed over. Thanks to you all, all cans made by everyone are now "durable" items. And no durable in this case doesn't mean that they are better.
Good luck getting anything replaced after it breaks or wears out boys. We can thank Gemtech for that. Hey don't be mad, you all brought up the Gem-TAX. Call me crazy but if I were a manufacturer I wouldn't want items that I had no involvement in running around carrying my name on the side. I don't fault Gemtech for the BATFE's faulty reasoning any more so than other can manufacturers who were doing some shady dealings IMO. |
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Well, if you all get the ATFE to resind "your" requested "clarification" on the rebuilding of cans and the paying of another TAX each time, maybe then I'll be able to forgive you. Until then GEMTAX is a dirty word in my book. But cudos on your marketing deal paying the tax and all for your future customers that you all have already screwed over. Thanks to you all, all cans made by everyone are now "durable" items. And no durable in this case doesn't mean that they are better.
Good luck getting anything replaced after it breaks or wears out boys. We can thank Gemtech for that. Hey don't be mad, you all brought up the Gem-TAX. Call me crazy but if I were a manufacturer I wouldn't want items that I had no involvement in running around carrying my name on the side. I don't fault Gemtech for the BATFE's faulty reasoning any more so than other can manufacturers who were doing some shady dealings IMO. Good point. |
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Well, if you all get the ATFE to resind "your" requested "clarification" on the rebuilding of cans and the paying of another TAX each time, maybe then I'll be able to forgive you. Until then GEMTAX is a dirty word in my book. But cudos on your marketing deal paying the tax and all for your future customers that you all have already screwed over. Thanks to you all, all cans made by everyone are now "durable" items. And no durable in this case doesn't mean that they are better.
Good luck getting anything replaced after it breaks or wears out boys. We can thank Gemtech for that. Hey don't be mad, you all brought up the Gem-TAX. Go troll elsewhere with that noise.  The laws were the same before and after Gemtech's inquiry. I'm sure you'd be fine with someone taking a suppressor you made, changing it completely, and then stamping YOUR name and serial number on their illegally built suppressor.
If you have a problem with the current laws, do something about it like write your congressman or senator and work to get the NFA laws/taxes repealed or changed. Talking smack about a suppressor manufacturer on a gun board isn't constructive at all to the shooting community. They (Gov) have got us fighting eachother like dogs over table scraps.. -X |
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I don't mind fighting amongst companies, that's competition. But when you go to the ATFE complaining, that affects us all. I own silencers from 4 different companies. Gemtech is one of them.
Some of these have an aluminum main tube, that can be easily damaged when rebuilt. There is a principal here. They let their squabling affect the rest of us by whinning to the ATFE. I own the can, (I used to own the serial #) why can't I crush/destroy the old and rebuild a new one at my lesure without having the ATFE involved all of the time? What happens if this paltry $200 tax goes up to $2000 or more? We are all screwed.... I'm just thinking for the future. It makes me mad that our own worst enemies in the shooting field are ourselves and the companies that produce the said product. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - April 15th, 2009.. NOT 2010!! Tax Day... That happiest time of year.... GEMTAX TIME!!! (Page 1 of 5)
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