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Posted: 5/15/2015 3:03:05 PM EDT
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I've been a big fan of these cans since I first saw one on a Mk 12 way back when. Haven't seen a thread dedicated to them, so thought I would create one! Anything you spy that is incorrect, let me know.
The Firearm Blog article on Allen Engineering written by our own @goloud 5.56 Cans Ops Inc cans Ops Inc Family pic courtesy of @The_Accuser. Top picture from right to left: M4S, M4M, Model 14th, 15th, 16th and 12th: Ops Inc 3rd Model 1989 Panama (Paul Howe on far left) Mid-90's in use by Delta (photos found by @10Point3) 1990-1991 Gulf War: 1992 joint training w/ SAS in Hereford 1993 Somalia Possible 3rd model as used by Craig "Sawman" Sawyer (h/t to @Augee and @bigbore for detective work) More recent photos of 3rd model (found by @MDStroup): Original alignment collar (courtesy of Ron Allen (@k31user), owner of Allen Engineering and long-time maker of cans at Ops Inc) Diameter: 1.5 inches Length past muzzle: 5 inches Overall length: 10 inches Weight: 24 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel Endurance: Meets SOPMOD objective of 30,000 rounds under various firing schedules. (Note: Currently these devices have surpassd 90,000 rounds operational use without failure) M4-S Caliber 5.56mm / .223 caliber Diameter: 1.5 inches Length Past brake: 1 inch Length past muzzle: 2.25 inches Overall length: 4.5 inches Weight: 11.2 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel (Note: Currently these devices have surpassd 90,000 rounds operational use without failure.) M4-M MBS @pistolpete's 12.5" upper with M4M Diameter: 1.5 inches Length Past brake: 2.5 inches Length past muzzle: 3.75 inches Overall length: 6 inches Weight: 14.6 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel (Note: Currently these devices have surpassd 90,000 rounds operational use without failure.) 12th Model SPR MBS 5.56 Mk 12s Matt Axelson's with James Suh (RIP ) Mk 12 Mod 1 @Rogue4's Mod Holland's (h/t to @Glass1, @18E3V, and @Nikiel09): Diameter: 1.5 inches Length past brake: 5 inches Length past muzzle: 6.25 inches Overall length: 8.7/8 inches Weight: 21 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel Endurance: Meets SOPMOD objective of 30,000 rounds under various firing schedules 14th Model CQB MBS Diameter: 1.5 inches Length past brake: 3 inches Length past muzzle: 4.25 inches Overall length: 6.5 inches Weight: 15.5 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel 15th Model CQB MBS 15th model? In use by Canadian SOF Diameter: 1.5 inches Length past brake: 3.5 inches Length past muzzle: 4.75 inches Overall length: 7 inches Weight: 17 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel Endurance: Meets SOPMOD objective of 30,000 rounds under various firing schedules. 16th Model CQB MBS @BookHound's 16th Model: @pistolpete's 16th Model Diameter: 1.5 inches Length past brake: 4 inches Length past muzzle: 6.25 inches Overall length: 8.5 inches Weight: 19 ounces Construction: Fusion welded 300 series stainless steel Endurance: Meets SOPMOD objective of 30,000 rounds under various firing schedules. Allen Engineering (AE) cans AE22 Length: 8" Weight: 20.1oz Finish: Black Oxide Lifetime Warranty AEM5 @RTUtah's: Length: 8 7/8" Weight: 21oz Finish: Black Oxide Lifetime Warranty AEM4 Caliber: 5.56 Length: 8.5" Weight: 20oz Finish: Black Oxide Lifetime Warranty AEM3 Length: 7" Weight: 18.2oz Finish: Black Oxide Lifetime Warranty AEM2 Length: 6" Weight: 15oz Finish: Black Oxide Lifetime Warranty Which AE can is roughly equivalent to an Ops Inc Can? AE22 = Ops Inc 3rd model 5.56 AEM5 = Ops Inc 12th model SPR MBS AEM4 = Ops Inc 16th Model CQB MBS AEM3 = Ops Inc 15th Model CQB MBS AEM2 = Ops Inc M4M |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
bigbore: I'd buy an AE can in a heartbeat if there was some kind of promo on the mount/collar and getting the mount and collar installed on a barrel. IIRC, you're talking like $300 additional to simply mount the $600 can on your barrel. I would agree that if you're not into cloning, MK12 or retro, you probably won't be buying an AE can. View Quote Did you know that nowadays you can use OPS/AE cans WITHOUT doing any barrel work at all? Specific barrel lengths allow you to use collars and have no barrel profiling done... For instance: 10.5"/7.5" barrels with the spike's tactical low pro gas block/collar combo will mount a suppressor without profiling The AE m4 adaptor collar AND the spike's LRS collar will allow any government or m4 profiled barrel to use the suppressors without profiling the barrel, too. If you want to use a FSP rifle, then that's a different story- see my posts two posts before this one. |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
bigbore: I'd buy an AE can in a heartbeat if there was some kind of promo on the mount/collar and getting the mount and collar installed on a barrel. IIRC, you're talking like $300 additional to simply mount the $600 can on your barrel. I would agree that if you're not into cloning, MK12 or retro, you probably won't be buying an AE can. View Quote Buy a barrel with the proper mil spec contours, and there is no need for any modifications at all. Beyond that, properly modifying a barrel properly is costly. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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View Quote bigbore, do you mind if I post your information (with a link and credit) in the OP? |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
bigbore, do you mind if I post your information (with a link and credit) in the OP? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
bigbore, do you mind if I post your information (with a link and credit) in the OP? go for it. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Well, somehow I broke the OP.
I changed 1 thing and suddenly none of the underlining/bolding/coloring is working anymore. Is there a limit to what you can put in a single post? |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Well, somehow I broke the OP. I changed 1 thing and suddenly none of the underlining/bolding/coloring is working anymore. Is there a limit to what you can put in a single post? View Quote The op is pretty lengthy, there are code limits in posts iirc. That's why when people make threads like this they reserve the first 5-10 postings. |
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Where is the guy from Tennessee with all the Ops cans? He has some nice stuff but I can't remember his name.
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In the OP, the Arfmy SF "M40A3" with the OPS Inc can is an M24E2, Can should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 View Quote I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. |
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I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website?
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
In the OP, the M40A3 with the OPS Inc can, should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan:
In the OP, the M40A3 with the OPS Inc can, should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Thanks. How could you tell? Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. Originally Posted By Mblades:
I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website? You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. Originally Posted By Mblades:
I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website? You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. I should have known better than to question Dan. That is the email address I used and I don't have Facebook. I guess I'll contact Steve at ADCO and see if he can modify one of his existing cans or reach out to AE himself. |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
From their website: "Note: dB will be close or less than 40 dB" I haven't seen any other external data but anecdotally, lots of folks seem to say that they think they're on the quieter end of the suppressor spectrum. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By chase45:
40 db is pretty high. Ive heard OPS cans are quiet, but 40 decibel reductions? From their website: "Note: dB will be close or less than 40 dB" I haven't seen any other external data but anecdotally, lots of folks seem to say that they think they're on the quieter end of the suppressor spectrum. I think that is a non MILSPEC test. IIR, they meter 96 feet down range. eta http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html |
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Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
I think that is a non MILSPEC test. IIR, they meter 96 feet down range. eta http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By chase45:
40 db is pretty high. Ive heard OPS cans are quiet, but 40 decibel reductions? From their website: "Note: dB will be close or less than 40 dB" I haven't seen any other external data but anecdotally, lots of folks seem to say that they think they're on the quieter end of the suppressor spectrum. I think that is a non MILSPEC test. IIR, they meter 96 feet down range. eta http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html |
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
I should have known better than to question Dan. That is the email address I used and I don't have Facebook. I guess I'll contact Steve at ADCO and see if he can modify one of his existing cans or reach out to AE himself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. Originally Posted By Mblades:
I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website? You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. I should have known better than to question Dan. That is the email address I used and I don't have Facebook. I guess I'll contact Steve at ADCO and see if he can modify one of his existing cans or reach out to AE himself. Lol. I think you can custom order through Adco, so give Steve a call! Let me know what he says. |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Thanks. How could you tell? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Originally Posted By dangerdan: In the OP, the Army SF "M40A3" with the OPS Inc can is an M24E2, Can should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Thanks. How could you tell? I had to revise my post. I didn't pay attention. Fairly certain that the gun is an M24E2 barreled action (note the long action). The only M24's with OPS Inc cans, is the M24E2, which utilizes the 12th Model .30 |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I had to revise my post. I didn't pay attention. Fairly certain that the gun is an M24E2 barreled action (note the long action). The only M24's with OPS Inc cans, is the M24E2, which utilizes the 12th Model .30 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
In the OP, the Army SF "M40A3" with the OPS Inc can is an M24E2, Can should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Thanks. How could you tell? I had to revise my post. I didn't pay attention. Fairly certain that the gun is an M24E2 barreled action (note the long action). The only M24's with OPS Inc cans, is the M24E2, which utilizes the 12th Model .30 Interredasting. Thanks for the info. Unrelated: but I've noticed that the knurling on the 3rd model has some near the front of the can and others has it nearer to the FSB. Just thought it was interesting. May allow for dating of when they were issued. |
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Thanks to all providing details to this thread. Got a few answers to some things I was wondering.
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Interredasting. Thanks for the info. Unrelated: but I've noticed that the knurling on the 3rd model has some near the front of the can and others has it nearer to the FSB. Just thought it was interesting. May allow for dating of when they were issued. View Quote I recently inquired about getting an AEM5 with the knurling, and was told Ron had a couple on hand. Maybe one less now..... Has anyone else ordered an AEM5 recently, with knurling? Pics? |
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Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
For anyone on the fence about these cans and mounts.... DOOO EEEEEET! I have 5 different 5.56 suppressors and the Ops 12th/AEM 5 sound by far the best with the least amount of POI shift unsuppressed to suppressed. This has proven true on 3 separate hosts with the same can. 2 Ballistic Advantage and 1 Douglas. Great suppressor, many awesome, huge silence, much wow. Ops photo dump: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
For anyone on the fence about these cans and mounts.... DOOO EEEEEET! I have 5 different 5.56 suppressors and the Ops 12th/AEM 5 sound by far the best with the least amount of POI shift unsuppressed to suppressed. This has proven true on 3 separate hosts with the same can. 2 Ballistic Advantage and 1 Douglas. Great suppressor, many awesome, huge silence, much wow. Ops photo dump: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg</a> Whoa, great collection there boss. And nice brain shot on that 'yote too Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Interredasting. Thanks for the info. Unrelated: but I've noticed that the knurling on the 3rd model has some near the front of the can and others has it nearer to the FSB. Just thought it was interesting. May allow for dating of when they were issued. I recently inquired about getting an AEM5 with the knurling, and was told Ron had a couple on hand. Maybe one less now..... Has anyone else ordered an AEM5 recently, with knurling? Pics? I ordered one on the 18th from High Caliber Sales, but I have not laid eyes on it. Form 3 probably won't clear until mid-July. I'll post pics when I go to fill out the Form 4. I hope it has knurling, but I doubt it. |
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I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested.
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested. Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will. I almost forgot to ask too! Honestly didn't think they'd have any. I've read (maybe in this thread?) that Ron will make them if requested. Didnt have mine made special- he must've made a knurled batch already and only had a couple left. |
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Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I almost forgot to ask too! Honestly didn't think they'd have any. I've read (maybe in this thread?) that Ron will make them if requested. Didnt have mine made special- he must've made a knurled batch already and only had a couple left. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested. Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will. I almost forgot to ask too! Honestly didn't think they'd have any. I've read (maybe in this thread?) that Ron will make them if requested. Didnt have mine made special- he must've made a knurled batch already and only had a couple left. Yeah, one of the greatest things about AE is that they seem extremely adaptable to whatever you want. Pretty much if you want it done and are willing to wait a bit, Ron will take care of you. |
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Originally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg View Quote How long is that 3rd 762?? Looks longer than 10.5"! |
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Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
How long is that 3rd 762?? Looks longer than 10.5"! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg How long is that 3rd 762?? Looks longer than 10.5"! Haha it does look pretty long. Bet that thing is super quiet. Great collection BadSVT! |
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Originally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel View Quote That's a fantastic setup! I hope I can emulate something like that with an AEM2. What gas block is that? I was worried about clearance issues with the collar. |
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Originally Posted By BadSVT: My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg View Quote |
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so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel?
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? View Quote Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. |
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"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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With the standard profile you just need the proper collar and you're good to go.
If in doubt Adco is a great source of information. If you email Ron Allen over at Allen Engineering he should be able to furnish proper OD and length measurements for different barrel profiles and supressors. I know one or both of them in the past have made custom profile collars if requested. |
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I wouldn't say I'm a gun nut... but I'd consider extreme enthusiast.
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel |
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel They have different mounts. I'm not sure about the geometry of the FN barrel, but I would think it would be good to go? *ETA: good to go on an AEM4 mount, not the AEM5. AEM5 requires a 'step' (0.750) in the barrel to mount the collar. The AEM4 collar should be able to mount to the step located ~1 inch from the muzzle threads that's already machined into mil-spec M4 barrels. |
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"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
They have different mounts. I'm not sure about the geometry of the FN barrel, but I would think it would be good to go? *ETA: good to go on an AEM4 mount, not the AEM5. AEM5 requires a 'step' (0.750) in the barrel to mount the collar. The AEM4 collar should be able to mount to the step located ~1 inch from the muzzle threads that's already machined into mil-spec M4 barrels. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel They have different mounts. I'm not sure about the geometry of the FN barrel, but I would think it would be good to go? *ETA: good to go on an AEM4 mount, not the AEM5. AEM5 requires a 'step' (0.750) in the barrel to mount the collar. The AEM4 collar should be able to mount to the step located ~1 inch from the muzzle threads that's already machined into mil-spec M4 barrels. There's a mount that also uses the USGI step but allows for the M5 to be mounted. |
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The 16th Model has the same baffle stack as the 12th model.
The only difference is that the 16th can be used on M4 14.5" barrels and still be capable of mounting an M203. Assuming all the OPS data transfers over since AE took over 100%, I would assume the same can be said for the AEM4 and AEM5 |
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Sam's Misguided Children I was cloning before cloning was cool: Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II |
Originally Posted By Mblades:
That's a fantastic setup! I hope I can emulate something like that with an AEM2. What gas block is that? I was worried about clearance issues with the collar. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg That's a fantastic setup! I hope I can emulate something like that with an AEM2. What gas block is that? I was worried about clearance issues with the collar. Spike's tapered micro gas block .750: http://www.spikestactical.com/upper-parts-tapered-micro-gas-block-750-for-suppressor-p-919.html made for spike's LRS/MRS suppressors as well as OPS INC/AE suppressors to butt up against the gas block. |
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Originally Posted By DocBrooks:
Really like my AEM5. Got it from ADCO along with the old longer collar. Don't hate on my non-perfect MK12 clone... Pic was taken when the form came back and I was expecting to have to wait another 2-3 months. http://i.imgur.com/hz94hZd.jpg View Quote No hate here! Clone looks great. Just needs a Leupy and you'll be good to go! |
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"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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Excellent photos!
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Ignorance is not a point of view.
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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I know I asked about a gov profile barrel, but all I need is that spikes tapered gas block and I can run an AEM4 on a 7.5"? Will it also work for the aem5?
edit: and a compatible muzzle device obviously |
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