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Thanks for the wright up, looks OK, but they should have went with metric FAL mags instead of proprietary single stack.
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Thanks for the wright up, looks OK, but they should have went with metric FAL mags instead of proprietary single stack. The magazines are not proprietary; they're the same as the Accuracy International, from what I've read. |
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Nice write up on the rifle. It looks to be a solid design, although not for me. I am not diggin the flash hider on the barrel, and for the price they want, I can think of a few other things I would rather have. It is a neat looking rifle, and I'm sure it will sell, just not to me.
It would also be nice if they offered it with a Laminate top cover in place of the scout rail, in case you wanna do standard scope mounting / iron sights only. I do have to give Ruger a HUGE +1 for using the AI Mags, if that rumor is true. It is good they went with an already proven mag system, rather then reinventing the wheel and trying to make a prapriatary mag. I do think M1A Mags would have been better though, IMO, as the AI mags are a little pricey. |
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Nice overview..But I find it telling that I don't see a single hasty sling being used to steady the rifle in any of the photos despite having being equipped with a rather good one.
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Nice write up, and always great to see pictures of Gunsite.
The last picture, in front of the classroom, don't you know it's a punishable offense to black out guns and magazines in any pictures taken at Gunsite?
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I'd like to see a version in 6.8 SPCII, maybe with a redesigned (from the 44 Mag carbine) Ruger Rotary magazine
OR a modified AI magazine for the 6.8 round ALSO Not a huge fan of that style of flash hider, so I'd like to see other options, plus other colours of stock: but a good A+ for effort & also for making the flash-hider removable/having the barrel threaded, etc. |
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I like the idea A LOT! But i'd like to see if that flash hider can be removed (its hideous).
6.8spc would be a nice choice, but i would still rock one in.308 Might have to look for a used one.. |
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Want... looks like I just found my next purchase. Time to start saving.
I've been waiting for a manufacturer to come out with a set up like that for a long time. With an MSRP of $995, I'm guessing that the actual price will be around $680/$720? ETA: I like the flash hider, we have enough fudd rifles w/o threaded muzzles/flash hiders. |
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I'm starting to regret selling my Spanish FR-8 and Steyr Scout
Thinking about buying a variant of this rifle in the near future. But I already have a M1A SOCOM though, so I'm not sure what role this Ruger carbine would play. However, the Ruger is California legal with an evil flash hider & detachable magazine. It would be fun to own one just to mess with the anti-2As here. |
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I like the idea A LOT! But i'd like to see if that flash hider can be removed (its hideous). 6.8spc would be a nice choice, but i would still rock one in.308 Might have to look for a used one.. Flash hider IS removable |
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I like it
I was thinking my next rifle would be a savage edge or axis or whatever they are calling them these days in .308 but I will wait to see the street price on this. |
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Nice write up, I received an email from ruger about it today. The barrel uses a standard thread for most 7.62 muzzle devices(5/8X??). I think a votex would look great!
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Nice write up on the rifle. It looks to be a solid design, although not for me. I am not diggin the flash hider on the barrel, and for the price they want, I can think of a few other things I would rather have. It is a neat looking rifle, and I'm sure it will sell, just not to me. It would also be nice if they offered it with a Laminate top cover in place of the scout rail, in case you wanna do standard scope mounting / iron sights only. I do have to give Ruger a HUGE +1 for using the AI Mags, if that rumor is true. It is good they went with an already proven mag system, rather then reinventing the wheel and trying to make a prapriatary mag. I do think M1A Mags would have been better though, IMO, as the AI mags are a little pricey. Part of the Scout Rifle concept is the forward-mounted scope position supporting a low power extended eye relief optic. In theory, you could track and engage a moving target with both eyes open, without being "lost in the scope." The reason why the scope mounts aren't over the action is to allow unobstructed access to the action, in case there's a feed problem, or if the rifle's design allowed for use of stripper clips. |
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I like it but would rather have had a double-stack 10rd mag the same length as the 5rd single.
That said, the only thing this offers that my FR-8 does not is optics. |
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Nice write up.
Makes me want to get the dust off my old #5 and take it to the range. |
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I like it but would rather have had a double-stack 10rd mag the same length as the 5rd single. +1. There are plenty of reliable double-stack mags out there. Should have gone with M14 mags. My .02. But kudos to Ruger for the effort to market this. This will be a good item for those in anti-2nd amendment states like the PRK. |
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Nice write up on the rifle. It looks to be a solid design, although not for me. I am not diggin the flash hider on the barrel, and for the price they want, I can think of a few other things I would rather have. It is a neat looking rifle, and I'm sure it will sell, just not to me. It would also be nice if they offered it with a Laminate top cover in place of the scout rail, in case you wanna do standard scope mounting / iron sights only. I do have to give Ruger a HUGE +1 for using the AI Mags, if that rumor is true. It is good they went with an already proven mag system, rather then reinventing the wheel and trying to make a prapriatary mag. I do think M1A Mags would have been better though, IMO, as the AI mags are a little pricey. Part of the Scout Rifle concept is the forward-mounted scope position supporting a low power extended eye relief optic. In theory, you could track and engage a moving target with both eyes open, without being "lost in the scope." The reason why the scope mounts aren't over the action is to allow unobstructed access to the action, in case there's a feed problem, or if the rifle's design allowed for use of stripper clips. I agree that the forward rail is there for the "scout" styling and function. I was simply stating that by making an option of a non-scout style, like a iron sight only rifle, or a rifle set up for a typical scope, would capture a greater field of people. I do like the scout style forward mounted optics, but I prefer to use a red dot, rather then a scope. |
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Appears I know what my next purchase is gonna be...Very nice!
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That's pretty nice for a 30 round group. |
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Quoted: That's pretty nice for a 30 round group. At a 100 yds maybe. 50 yards not so much..... |
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That's pretty nice for a 30 round group. Yes. That's a good group considering the shooter has to do everything just right 30 times in a row. It's nice to see that it doesn't look like the rifle suffers from any deviation in point of impact once the barrel gets hot. That's assuming that all thirty rounds were pretty much shot one after the other. I like the looks of the new gun. Sort of a logical and "poor man" approach to what could be a very viable and usable platform. Hopefully other calibers/styles will follow with the success of this initial offering. |
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That's pretty cool. I did a couple scouts many moons ago. I've decided I don't like magnified optics in the forward mounted position. However, a "general purpose" bolt action rifle with iron sights will cover 90% of anything that needs shooting. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Scout-1.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Scout-3.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Scout-2.jpg Nice. I like the A2 rear especially. Maybe somebody should make an A2 rear that'll fit in place of the Ruger ghost ring rear. |
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I agree that the forward rail is there for the "scout" styling and function. I was simply stating that by making an option of a non-scout style, like a iron sight only rifle, or a rifle set up for a typical scope, would capture a greater field of people. I do like the scout style forward mounted optics, but I prefer to use a red dot, rather then a scope.
I'm sure you won't be the only one looking for a similarly equipped non-scout version. Like you're saying, a scout is a specialty item. I saw a close-up picture on Ruger's website, and it appears the rear sight attaches to the rear scope ring mount. |
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That's pretty cool. I did a couple scouts many moons ago. I've decided I don't like magnified optics in the forward mounted position. However, a "general purpose" bolt action rifle with iron sights will cover 90% of anything that needs shooting. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Scout-1.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Scout-3.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Scout-2.jpg That looks to be some sort of Mauser derived action. What's the base rifle it was built on? |
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I agree that the forward rail is there for the "scout" styling and function. I was simply stating that by making an option of a non-scout style, like a iron sight only rifle, or a rifle set up for a typical scope, would capture a greater field of people. I do like the scout style forward mounted optics, but I prefer to use a red dot, rather then a scope.
I'm sure you won't be the only one looking for a similarly equipped non-scout version. Like you're saying, a scout is a specialty item. I saw a close-up picture on Ruger's website, and it appears the rear sight attaches to the rear scope ring mount. The Ruger base is probably attached with screws and can be removed. The one of the next builds I'm going to do is a "Modern FR-8" style rifle w/solid handguard and no scout rail. Wood and parkerized steel baby. |
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That's pretty cool. I did a couple scouts many moons ago. I've decided I don't like magnified optics in the forward mounted position. However, a "general purpose" bolt action rifle with iron sights will cover 90% of anything that needs shooting. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Scout-1.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Scout-3.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Scout-2.jpg That looks to be some sort of Mauser derived action. What's the base rifle it was built on? That was a Spanish 1916 I did for a friend. I also did another one for myself on an FR-8 large ring Mauser, that rifle has been sold. |
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Yep, been looking for just this sort of rifle for a while now. Very interested. As to the flash hider, it is ugly as sin, but sounds easy to change if its too ugly for the owner.
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These have me thinking I want a new production Zastava M63 .
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I applaud Ruger's effort. I will be picking one up when funds allow.
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To me, this is a perfect, multi use rifle. Just the sort of rifle to have on any camping trip. I can see it taking on everything from hogs & whitetails here in texas, and a perfect "woods roaming" gun back home in Colorado. I'll be getting one, & thanks Ruger!
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I probably missed it, but are these cock on opening? Better be. I don't think anybody's made a cock on closing action in a couple of centuries. |
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I probably missed it, but are these cock on opening? Better be. I don't think anybody's made a cock on closing action in a couple of centuries. I quite like them. They are very popular here in the form of Enfields of every kind. Technology has probably moved on from them being the fastest action available I suppose. |
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Look at Michael Blaines' blog, it looks like the folks at XS sights may already be developing a rail intended for just what you are looking for. I have an XS rail on my Marlin 336, and it is good stuff!
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Nice overview..But I find it telling that I don't see a single hasty sling being used to steady the rifle in any of the photos despite having being equipped with a rather good one. Thanks. Il Ling did instruct us on the use and advantages of the Ching Sling. At first I was "what the Hell" when I saw it but after her instructions in offhand, kneeling, sitting and prone the advantages off the Ching sling became apparent. I just didn't get any pics of her while instructing us with it. |
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I've got an XS rail on a Chilean 7x57 Mauser and Ishapore 7.62x51 and can say I want more .
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Look at Michael Blaines' blog, it looks like the folks at XS sights may already be developing a rail intended for just what you are looking for. I have an XS rail on my Marlin 336, and it is good stuff! We got to play with the prototype rails at Gunsite, they are very nice. They were mounted to a couple of the rifles for testing. |
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That's pretty nice for a 30 round group. At a 100 yds maybe. 50 yards not so much..... Did y'all notice that group of 30 was taken after 4,170 rounds had been run through the barrel. |
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I probably missed it, but are these cock on opening? Better be. I don't think anybody's made a cock on closing action in a couple of centuries. Correct. |
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I probably missed it, but are these cock on opening? Better be. I don't think anybody's made a cock on closing action in a couple of centuries. I quite like them. They are very popular here in the form of Enfields of every kind. Technology has probably moved on from them being the fastest action available I suppose. Enfields are nice but they are neither as safe nor as strong as the mauser 98 action which is why they have not been produced since the 50s. This is why modern designs are based on the mauser, because they can essentially rechamber the action for high pressure magnum rounds without it blowing up in your face. However I do love my cock on closing bolt guns (lee-enfields, M1917 enfield and 91'/96' mausers) for precisely the reason that they are fast and smooth. |
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