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Posted: 4/25/2011 4:25:46 PM EDT
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Unless I've come down with a case of the 'tard, I can't for the life of me find a 'Post pics of your plate carrier setup' thread...? I searched with all my team powers but couldn't find one?
If there is none, I will post mine up and start one- or does anyone know where it went? I coulda sworn I've seen one? ETA: Not talking about chest rigs, or 'gear' in general. I'm talking about strictly plate carriers. ETA2: One other person can't find one either; so that must mean this is none! THIS IS NOW A PLATE CARRIER THREAD! –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Please BE SURE to post specs if you join in! Including Plates inside! With chest rig attached: 
Chest rig detached: 
Velocity Systems LWPC in MC with two triple-curve plates by RMR tactical inside. Chest rig is clipped on using the Velocity Systems 'Swift Clip' Attachment system. Chest rig is a TT mini-mav with a triple mag shingle, and two modded Eagle FB pistol mag pouches on each side (modded to fit double stack glock mags). Pouch in front is a MSM Admin pouch. I LOVE this PC because I can not only have a chest rig attached, but also use it under clothing as a low-pro carrier. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 9:34:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By robbf213:
Look like TAP Gamma's Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By robbf213:
Originally Posted By RebelAR-15:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Not the best pic, but my armor came in today! http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/CB933B2F-01CA-455C-8514-6F859097D503-634-0000006FCC052164_zpse42567b0.jpg What kind of plates? Look like TAP Gamma's Yup. Sure are |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 11:15:21 PM EDT
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Somebody suggested keeping a 'bite rod' in their IFAK to literally chomp down on during extreme pain.
Well here's mine, 5" lanyard from ebay with black and tan 550 cord. Adds minimal weight and bulk 
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Posted: 11/13/2013 12:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Somebody suggested keeping a 'bite rod' in their IFAK to literally chomp down on during extreme pain. Well here's mine, 5" lanyard from ebay with black and tan 550 cord. Adds minimal weight and bulk <a href="http://s290.photobucket.com/user/ppcseniortrip/media/IMG_4079.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/IMG_4079.jpg</a> You can just bite on a piece of your gear, or clothing. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2013 12:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktide:
You can just bite on a piece of your gear, or clothing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktide:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Somebody suggested keeping a 'bite rod' in their IFAK to literally chomp down on during extreme pain. Well here's mine, 5" lanyard from ebay with black and tan 550 cord. Adds minimal weight and bulk <a href="http://s290.photobucket.com/user/ppcseniortrip/media/IMG_4079.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/IMG_4079.jpg</a> You can just bite on a piece of your gear, or clothing. Definitely true. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:40:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CT-Shooter]
[#5]
Here is my rig, i run it as well as a battle belt that has another 3 AR mags, 2 spare pistol mags, an IFAK and dump pouch.
USMC IMTV PC with front, rear, and side SAPI plates, thats all i know, i can't figure out the brand of my PC. Anybody know how i can figure it out? I got the PC used a few years back. Later got the plates from a dealer here. On the front: Tac tailor triple mag pouch up front Tac Tailor Admin Tac Tailor multi-tool pouch with a multitasked AR tool inside On the back: Tac Tailor hydration back with a source hydration bladder critique me, any advice is awesome. trying to keep it as simple as i can really. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:54:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Here is my rig, i run it as well as a battle belt that has another 3 AR mags, 2 spare pistol mags, an IFAK and dump pouch. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100331_977_zpsd37b4aaa.jpg <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg</a> <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg</a> USMC IMTV PC with front, rear, and side SAPI plates, thats all i know, i can't figure out the brand of my PC. Anybody know how i can figure it out? I got the PC used a few years back. Later got the plates from a dealer here. On the front: Tac tailor triple mag pouch up front Tac Tailor Admin Tac Tailor multi-tool pouch with a multitasked AR tool inside On the back: Tac Tailor hydration back with a source hydration bladder critique me, any advice is awesome. trying to keep it as simple as i can really. how do you run 3 AR mags on the belt? Double stack or what? |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 12:37:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CT-Shooter]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
how do you run 3 AR mags on the belt? Double stack or what? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Here is my rig, i run it as well as a battle belt that has another 3 AR mags, 2 spare pistol mags, an IFAK and dump pouch. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100331_977_zpsd37b4aaa.jpg <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg</a> <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg</a> USMC IMTV PC with front, rear, and side SAPI plates, thats all i know, i can't figure out the brand of my PC. Anybody know how i can figure it out? I got the PC used a few years back. Later got the plates from a dealer here. On the front: Tac tailor triple mag pouch up front Tac Tailor Admin Tac Tailor multi-tool pouch with a multitasked AR tool inside On the back: Tac Tailor hydration back with a source hydration bladder critique me, any advice is awesome. trying to keep it as simple as i can really. how do you run 3 AR mags on the belt? Double stack or what? 2 on the strong side, one on the weak incase of transition. not sure if i am going to keep it there, most of the time i use it to hold my mag prior to loading up as most of my shooting is in competition/classes. i posted a pic in the battle belt/1st line thread awhile back but here is my belt for discussions sake. hopefully this doesn't turn into another "knife behind the holster" argument haha 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2013 12:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CT-Shooter:
2 on the strong side, one on the weak incase of transition. not sure if i am going to keep it there, most of the time i use it to hold my mag prior to loading up as most of my shooting is in competition/classes. i posted a pic in the battle belt/1st line thread awhile back but here is my belt for discussions sake. hopefully this doesn't turn into another "knife behind the holster" argument haha <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131101_192533_895_zps51812eda.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131101_192533_895_zps51812eda.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Here is my rig, i run it as well as a battle belt that has another 3 AR mags, 2 spare pistol mags, an IFAK and dump pouch. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100331_977_zpsd37b4aaa.jpg <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg</a> <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg</a> USMC IMTV PC with front, rear, and side SAPI plates, thats all i know, i can't figure out the brand of my PC. Anybody know how i can figure it out? I got the PC used a few years back. Later got the plates from a dealer here. On the front: Tac tailor triple mag pouch up front Tac Tailor Admin Tac Tailor multi-tool pouch with a multitasked AR tool inside On the back: Tac Tailor hydration back with a source hydration bladder critique me, any advice is awesome. trying to keep it as simple as i can really. how do you run 3 AR mags on the belt? Double stack or what? 2 on the strong side, one on the weak incase of transition. not sure if i am going to keep it there, most of the time i use it to hold my mag prior to loading up as most of my shooting is in competition/classes. i posted a pic in the battle belt/1st line thread awhile back but here is my belt for discussions sake. hopefully this doesn't turn into another "knife behind the holster" argument haha <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131101_192533_895_zps51812eda.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131101_192533_895_zps51812eda.jpg</a> IMHO, having a weak side mag is not necessary but that's your decision. Can you sit/drive with that, what I assume to be, IFAK? |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 2:56:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
IMHO, having a weak side mag is not necessary but that's your decision. Can you sit/drive with that, what I assume to be, IFAK? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Here is my rig, i run it as well as a battle belt that has another 3 AR mags, 2 spare pistol mags, an IFAK and dump pouch. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100331_977_zpsd37b4aaa.jpg <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100358_132_zpsfadba224.jpg</a> <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131113_100510_957_zpsb2132cfa.jpg</a> USMC IMTV PC with front, rear, and side SAPI plates, thats all i know, i can't figure out the brand of my PC. Anybody know how i can figure it out? I got the PC used a few years back. Later got the plates from a dealer here. On the front: Tac tailor triple mag pouch up front Tac Tailor Admin Tac Tailor multi-tool pouch with a multitasked AR tool inside On the back: Tac Tailor hydration back with a source hydration bladder critique me, any advice is awesome. trying to keep it as simple as i can really. how do you run 3 AR mags on the belt? Double stack or what? 2 on the strong side, one on the weak incase of transition. not sure if i am going to keep it there, most of the time i use it to hold my mag prior to loading up as most of my shooting is in competition/classes. i posted a pic in the battle belt/1st line thread awhile back but here is my belt for discussions sake. hopefully this doesn't turn into another "knife behind the holster" argument haha <a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20131101_192533_895_zps51812eda.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20131101_192533_895_zps51812eda.jpg</a> IMHO, having a weak side mag is not necessary but that's your decision. Can you sit/drive with that, what I assume to be, IFAK? Yes but it is getting swapped out for something a lot smaller I didn't realize how big that thing was when I ordered it. A lot of people say dont put your ifak at 6 o'clock, where else would I want it? |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 3:37:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sweatpants]
[#10]
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
 If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread  |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 3:56:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included 
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that Originally Posted By CT-Shooter:
Yes but it is getting swapped out for something a lot smaller I didn't realize how big that thing was when I ordered it. A lot of people say dont put your ifak at 6 o'clock, where else would I want it? Mine is 4 o'clock. The IFAK on my PC and chest rig is like 10 o'clock. wear them both and I have redundant gear that can be accessed with either hand |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 4:00:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sweatpants]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By sweatpants: Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ... If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:13:52 PM EDT
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I take him seriously
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:38:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mezcalfud:
I take him seriously I take pretty much everybody here seriously. 
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Posted: 11/14/2013 12:05:16 AM EDT
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I carry a Cold Steel Recon Tanto on my battle belt (soon to be revised when I get my HSGI belt) and I have trained in knife fighting.
With that said, I have absolutely NO intention of getting into a knife fight under any circumstances. As anyone knows that has trained in knife fighting, the number one rule of knife fighting is you WILL be cut. If you are in a SHTF scenario and you do manage to walk away from a knife fight and you have a 14" laceration that is about 2" deep, you're pretty much screwed, You will end up with several severed muscles and tendons and if you're on your own, you might not even have the dexterity in your hands to utilize a bleeder kit. This could be caused from massive blood loss or the aforementioned severed tendons and muscles. GSW is no laughing matter and while it can be considerably worse in some regards than a knife laceration, you are less likely to suffer sliced tendons and muscles. And if you're thinking "I'll sneak up behind people with a knife and stab them so I'm not in a knife fight." There's another word for that sort of thing....it's called murder. The reason i carry the knife that I do is it serves multiple purposes and it's size and blade thickness makes it several tools in one. And since it's a pic thread... 
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Posted: 11/14/2013 7:04:59 AM EDT
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Another knife thread...?
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Posted: 11/14/2013 8:39:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By russbunny:
I carry a Cold Steel Recon Tanto on my battle belt (soon to be revised when I get my HSGI belt) and I have trained in knife fighting. With that said, I have absolutely NO intention of getting into a knife fight under any circumstances. As anyone knows that has trained in knife fighting, the number one rule of knife fighting is you WILL be cut. If you are in a SHTF scenario and you do manage to walk away from a knife fight and you have a 14" laceration that is about 2" deep, you're pretty much screwed, You will end up with several severed muscles and tendons and if you're on your own, you might not even have the dexterity in your hands to utilize a bleeder kit. This could be caused from massive blood loss or the aforementioned severed tendons and muscles. GSW is no laughing matter and while it can be considerably worse in some regards than a knife laceration, you are less likely to suffer sliced tendons and muscles. And if you're thinking "I'll sneak up behind people with a knife and stab them so I'm not in a knife fight." There's another word for that sort of thing....it's called murder. The reason i carry the knife that I do is it serves multiple purposes and it's size and blade thickness makes it several tools in one. And since it's a pic thread... https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1377309_666577623360790_2108463888_n.jpg Oh nice Shoshin no kamae. Left foot needs to be pointed towards the target a little more. She could widen the stance a little bit by moving the right foot back a little (an inch or two); try to keep the knee above the big toe. This will help keep her balance; she's putting a lot of weight on that rear leg, it should be 60/40 or 50.50. And the left arm needs to be bent a little, don't lock out the elbow. Otherwise, an exemplary textbook stance. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 4:32:45 PM EDT
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Cross post from regular gear thread
I've finished my PC (I think )
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Shellback Banshee BFG Ten Speed mag pouch (rifle) TT Fight Light mag pouch (pistol) Marz Tactical admin pouch -Gerber multi tool -Streamlight PolyTac -Notepad -550 cord -Chem lights -Sharpie -extra c123 batteries TT Joey hydration Drag strap ASP Tri Fold cuffs HSGI Bleeder -NAR emergency trauma dressing -Z Pak gauze -Gloves -Medical tape -CAT tourniquet -Shears HSGI Shoulder pads Level IIIA soft armor TAP Gamma + plates |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 4:45:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kiltakaze: Not the best pic, but my armor came in today! http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/CB933B2F-01CA-455C-8514-6F859097D503-634-0000006FCC052164_zpse42567b0.jpg Like the OPMOD EOTech.  Oh yeah, nice rig! Chase B. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 4:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By opticsplanet:
Like the OPMOD EOTech.
Oh yeah, nice rig! Chase B. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By opticsplanet:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Not the best pic, but my armor came in today! http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/CB933B2F-01CA-455C-8514-6F859097D503-634-0000006FCC052164_zpse42567b0.jpg Like the OPMOD EOTech.
Oh yeah, nice rig! Chase B. Had it almost 2 years and I love it. You guys gave me a sweet deal on it too 
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Posted: 11/15/2013 6:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Somebody suggested keeping a 'bite rod' in their IFAK to literally chomp down on during extreme pain. Well here's mine, 5" lanyard from ebay with black and tan 550 cord. Adds minimal weight and bulk <a href="http://s290.photobucket.com/user/ppcseniortrip/media/IMG_4079.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/IMG_4079.jpg</a> Its gonna catch watch. More people are going to start doing it. I found that biting clothes and thin pieces of gear would still allow you to chip your teeth. I use a 4 square knoted length of 550 cord wrapped one more time. its perfect for biting and keeping some extra 550 cord on hand in an easy package. It also has a calming effect when offered to a patient. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 6:49:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 8:58:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CAsoldier:
When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CAsoldier:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. Perfect. In reality if all you had to fight with on the ground was a folder, I think you end up just hitting someone with the handle. I haven't been in that situation myself but I've talked to those who have and I've trained for it. I couldn't imagine operating a folder or automatic in a struggle with gloves, sweat or blood. People spend too much time criticizing peoples combat loads when in reality fixed blades have been standard equipment through out human history for a reason. There are plenty or resent situations in our current wars where people have been in need of a fixed blade. Plus there are times when you might ditch your PC or just be without it. If I had one knife to survive with it would have to be a fixed blade. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 9:24:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dinnertime]
[#24]
Quote HistoryWhen you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. LOL, tell us more about all the times you've used a knife to get two men off you. Keep jerking yourself off to that thought bro. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 9:30:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime:
LOL, tell us more about all the times you've used a knife to get two men off you. Keep jerking yourself off to that thought bro. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dinnertime:
When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. LOL, tell us more about all the times you've used a knife to get two men off you. Keep jerking yourself off to that thought bro. Why limit yourself. Why is it bad to try and be ready for almost any scenario |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 9:50:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CAsoldier: When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CAsoldier: Originally Posted By sweatpants: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By sweatpants: Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ... If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 10:24:11 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By CAsoldier:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. Fuck that. I could take on like, 4 guys with my knife. You're just ignorant. |
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Posted: 11/15/2013 10:41:10 PM EDT
[#28]
We're debating the usefulness of a fixed blade knife for what if scenarios in a plate carrier thread, the majority of which are for what if scenarios
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Posted: 11/15/2013 11:06:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dinnertime]
[#29]
Quote HistoryFuck that. I could take on like, 4 guys with my knife. You're just ignorant. I'm sorry that I'm ignorant, but I can't help it. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 12:04:27 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By CAsoldier:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. I take him seriously too. I will post a pic of my carrier but I will be chastised as I am not deploying, nor do I have a squad to cover me in CQB....... I was issued a bayonet at one time? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 12:40:50 AM EDT
[#31]
Come on y'all. Don't get this thread locked again.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 11:48:04 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By CAsoldier:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:
Don't get me wrong guys, you can put whatever you want on your belt. But of the responses as to why you should have one, none of them were "because I want to fight people with knives." Think hard on what a first line belt does for you. Think hard on why you have what you have and why it works. If the rationale behind your gear is "cause internet" ...
If you want to claim SHTF / TEOTWAWKI / WROL as the reason why you have a knife, war belt, or whatever, you already don't have to explain anything. Nobody is taking you seriously anyway. that negates 4/5 of this thread, myself included
ETA: Fuck lol, just realized I was in the PC thread
Would you take us seriously if we said we wanted to knife fight people. think long and hard about that No, because fighting people with knives is fucking retarded when you're geared to do it with guns. And I've got just the weirdest feeling that of the people that even train to fight with guns, an even smaller subset trains to fight with guns and knives. When you or your team mates fuck up clearing a corridor or stairwell and you waltz into a room by yourself on the path of least resistance thinking someone is looking behind the door you might want a knife. Once someone wraps you up in a bear hug and you're getting monkey stomped by his friend a fixed blade suddenly becomes useful. Screaming for help will work too I suppose, I dont know Im not much of a screamer. I do find that when I'm within buttfucking distance of badguys my rifle suddenly becomes a long heavy stick that likes to shoot me in the foot and my pistol thinks it's funny to jam and then switch sides on me by getting torn out of my grip. Folders bind up and that damn automatic always manages to tap a thigh or arm and not quite lock in place. I have however yet to meet anyone that likes to grab the sharp pointy end of my fixed blade knife. This is why no one is taking you seriously. If you get entangled and are melee fighting two guys in CQB by yourself - you are fucked and are going to die. One of the two of them is going hold you while the other one kills you. If you're actually doing CQB, your 10 guys in front of or behind you will shoot your combatants in the face. 10 guys clearing a house? Read house to house, or the story of CSM Prosser, it happened more often than you think, especially in places like Iraq with small alleys and dense houses. You fight the fight the enemy gives you not the one you picked your gear around. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 11:50:28 AM EDT
[#33]
my PIG |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 12:02:46 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryWhat are you using to hold the tq on? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 12:13:50 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
What are you using to hold the tq on? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
What are you using to hold the tq on? They are 2 thick rubber bands from a kids toy that broke. One end is a button and the other a loop, and a firm tug releases them. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 12:26:43 PM EDT
[#36]
This is a plate carrier thread in a tech forum. Take your purse swinging over knives and other bullshit to GD.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 1:30:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
10 guys clearing a house? Read house to house, or the story of CSM Prosser, it happened more often than you think, especially in places like Iraq with small alleys and dense houses. You fight the fight the enemy gives you not the one you picked your gear around. That was my SGM. Fucking badass for a hobbit. I've never carried a knife downrange. I cut 550 and mres opened gauze/trauma dressings when my gloves were covered in blood etc with an issued seat belt cutter. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a fixed blade, and a lot of guys had them. But a lot of guys also didn't get second weapon systems and didn't have the option to bring they're own. Considering that when I close with the enemy I will either be firing or just empty I will either be clubbing them with my nine pound rifle or my two pound pistol. Not to mention with all of my gear on I was around 325 lbs, so a rugby tackle generally takes the wind out of someone smaller than me (if they're unarmed) I would rather have two hands free to try and control and remove some other fuckheads knife then play Mississippi man dance. On topic, I would mount a fixed blade to a PC instead of a belt. It's a rigid platform and doesn't add much thickness. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 1:54:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
That was my SGM. DeuceFour! For the record, that insurgent was so high he didn't even notice that he had been shot multiple times, so a knife wouldn't have been much use. He did take notice of the CSM's bear paw driving through the side of his head however. What's the point? A knife wound, much like a GSW, may not be immediately debilitating even on a person not under the influence. A (insert blunt object here) to the side of the head however.... Knives have a myriad of uses, ending a fight...meh. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 3:11:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joker581: This is a plate carrier thread in a tech forum. Take your purse swinging over knives and other bullshit to GD. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 4:40:05 PM EDT
[#40]
- Mayflower APC with Midwest Guardian IV plates. - Emdom-MM CQB AK-M4 Double Mag Pouch with an ATS Low Profile Medical Insert containing my blowout kit. - 3x Tactical Tailor Single Mag Pouch. I have an LBT Insert which I wanted to use in the kangaroo pocket, but it does not work for me. The 3 mags fit super tight, making insertion a chore, and the buckles on the APC interfere with the mag draw. - Paraclete Large Flash Bang Pouch containing a TQ and shears. - Emdom Pistol Mag Pouch. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 4:53:32 PM EDT
[#41]
Looks good
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:00:09 PM EDT
[#42]
CSM Prosser was my CO 1SG between 2000-2001, great NCO.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:00:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vsvo:
http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC002.JPG http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC004.JPG http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC003.JPG - Mayflower APC with Midwest Guardian IV plates. - Emdom-MM CQB AK-M4 Double Mag Pouch with an ATS Low Profile Medical Insert containing my blowout kit. - 3x Tactical Tailor Single Mag Pouch. I have an LBT Insert which I wanted to use in the kangaroo pocket, but it does not work for me. The 3 mags fit super tight, making insertion a chore, and the buckles on the APC interfere with the mag draw. - Paraclete Large Flash Bang Pouch containing a TQ and shears. - Emdom Pistol Mag Pouch. Is that foliage or some sort of grey? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 5:08:02 PM EDT
[#44]
APC and Tactical Tailor pouches are Ranger Green. Paraclete pouch is Smoke Green.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 7:52:12 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vsvo:
APC and Tactical Tailor pouches are Ranger Green. Paraclete pouch is Smoke Green. why do you have two IFAK type pouches? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 8:06:36 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
why do you have two IFAK type pouches? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By vsvo:
APC and Tactical Tailor pouches are Ranger Green. Paraclete pouch is Smoke Green. why do you have two IFAK type pouches? One holds his TQ and shears. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 8:46:17 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktide:
One holds his TQ and shears. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktide:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By vsvo:
APC and Tactical Tailor pouches are Ranger Green. Paraclete pouch is Smoke Green. why do you have two IFAK type pouches? One holds his TQ and shears. No, I saw that. Just looks like a massive waste of space but clearly he has PALS to spare so go for it. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 10:23:19 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
No, I saw that. Just looks like a massive waste of space but clearly he has PALS to spare so go for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By vsvo:
APC and Tactical Tailor pouches are Ranger Green. Paraclete pouch is Smoke Green. why do you have two IFAK type pouches? One holds his TQ and shears. No, I saw that. Just looks like a massive waste of space but clearly he has PALS to spare so go for it. "Massive waste of space"? Well, my BOK takes up 2 PALS channels, my TQ and shears take up 1.5 channels. I wanted to spread the components out versus wearing a large IFAK-sized pouch under my arms. Since I don't need to carry comms, only want to carry 3 mags, am still undecided about carrying pistol mags, and am still working on a hydration solution, I have the luxury of spreading it out. I'm sure the configuration will change as I use it and learn and my needs/desires evolve. |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 10:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vsvo:
[url=http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC002.JPG]http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC002.JPG[ [url=http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC004.JPG]http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC004.JPG[ [url=http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC003.JPG]http://thelaymansperch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PC003.JPG - Mayflower APC with Midwest Guardian IV plates. - Emdom-MM CQB AK-M4 Double Mag Pouch with an ATS Low Profile Medical Insert containing my blowout kit. - 3x Tactical Tailor Single Mag Pouch. I have an LBT Insert which I wanted to use in the kangaroo pocket, but it does not work for me. The 3 mags fit super tight, making insertion a chore, and the buckles on the APC interfere with the mag draw. - Paraclete Large Flash Bang Pouch containing a TQ and shears. - Emdom Pistol Mag Pouch. Any issues with the ranger plates and the cords not staying on the mags? |
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Posted: 11/16/2013 10:39:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vsvo:
"Massive waste of space"? Well, my BOK takes up 2 PALS channels, my TQ and shears take up 1.5 channels. I wanted to spread the components out versus wearing a large IFAK-sized pouch under my arms. Since I don't need to carry comms, only want to carry 3 mags, am still undecided about carrying pistol mags, and am still working on a hydration solution, I have the luxury of spreading it out. I'm sure the configuration will change as I use it and learn and my needs/desires evolve. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vsvo:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By vsvo:
APC and Tactical Tailor pouches are Ranger Green. Paraclete pouch is Smoke Green. why do you have two IFAK type pouches? One holds his TQ and shears. No, I saw that. Just looks like a massive waste of space but clearly he has PALS to spare so go for it. "Massive waste of space"? Well, my BOK takes up 2 PALS channels, my TQ and shears take up 1.5 channels. I wanted to spread the components out versus wearing a large IFAK-sized pouch under my arms. Since I don't need to carry comms, only want to carry 3 mags, am still undecided about carrying pistol mags, and am still working on a hydration solution, I have the luxury of spreading it out. I'm sure the configuration will change as I use it and learn and my needs/desires evolve. Like I said, You have that luxury and more power to ya. My IFAK is 2 columns FWIW. By 1.5 channels you mean one malice clip but it's wide? |
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