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Posted: 7/14/2009 9:12:11 PM EDT
As the title states show your war belt and first line setups complete with component rundowns and even costs. There are alot of seperate threads on this but no one thread with everybodies setups.
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Two-thirds of the dudes I knew who were issued them with the M17 kit, including myself, threw them straight into the trash and just used the UBL/QLS rig that most of us already used with our Glock/Beretta rigs. Not saying they don’t work well for some, but few preferred them.
ETA: Joe, I love that spiritus pouch. How are you liking it? I’ve been meaning to order one. |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: I'm a big fan of the DFA and single leg shroud. That said, you can use a leg strip on a UBL. The reason that *I* personally use the DFA/SLS is so I can mount additional items (baton, shotgun shells, or SAR knife) forward of the holster. If I didn't want or need that capability I would probably use the MHA. But the UBL is the cost effective option. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108584/20210929_172423_0_-2111389.jpg What's nice about the DFA/SLS is that it's super stable and rides at the same height as a a UBL. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By mudholestomper: What do we think about this as opposed to the UBL with the qds attached directly to it? It gives the ability to have a thigh strap, where I don’t see that option for the UBL/qls setup. I'm a big fan of the DFA and single leg shroud. That said, you can use a leg strip on a UBL. The reason that *I* personally use the DFA/SLS is so I can mount additional items (baton, shotgun shells, or SAR knife) forward of the holster. If I didn't want or need that capability I would probably use the MHA. But the UBL is the cost effective option. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108584/20210929_172423_0_-2111389.jpg What's nice about the DFA/SLS is that it's super stable and rides at the same height as a a UBL. I didn’t consider that. Thanks for sharing. |
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Originally Posted By BePhreed: Two-thirds of the dudes I knew who were issued them with the M17 kit, including myself, threw them straight into the trash and just used the UBL/QLS rig that most of us already used with our Glock/Beretta rigs. Not saying they don’t work well for some, but few preferred them. ETA: Joe, I love that spiritus pouch. How are you liking it? I’ve been meaning to order one. View Quote So far so good. I like having a place for my wallet, work cell, notebook while doing cover officer work. I hate using cargo pockets so this is a good place to keep stuff when I'm in kit. |
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Originally Posted By mudholestomper: What do we think about this as opposed to the UBL with the qds attached directly to it? It gives the ability to have a thigh strap, where I don't see that option for the UBL/qls setup. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/511664/607D0D2C-AB0D-46F1-878B-F4CE3CC792CA_png-2178666.JPG View Quote |
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Has anyone had a chance to try out the Kinetic Consulting / Flat Line Fiber Co dump pouch yet? I'm really intrigued by the fact that it can mount under a rifle mag pouch, effectively taking up zero belt space.
https://www.kinetic-consulting.net/product-page/the-dump-pouch |
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Has anyone had a chance to try out the Kinetic Consulting / Flat Line Fiber Co dump pouch yet? I'm really intrigued by the fact that it can mount under a rifle mag pouch, effectively taking up zero belt space. https://www.talkinglead.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/IMG_7410-1-510x340.jpg https://www.kinetic-consulting.net/product-page/the-dump-pouch View Quote I don't typically go for the lighter material dump pouches, but I do like these 'zero real estate' ideas to help people manage space. Makes me think of the Snake Eater dump pouch. https://www.snakeeatertactical.com/product/dump-pouch/ |
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New holster on it. I'll keep the wml ALS hand for the next full-sized railed 1911 I get.
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: Maybe I missed it, but why not consider the 6354DO? It will save you $80-90. View Quote I assume you’re talking about the Safariland holster? The website says it doesn’t fit the G45. ETA: I’m having a hard time figuring out the difference between the 6354DO and the 6390RDS 🤷🏻♂️ ETA 2: It looks like the 6354DO only fits gen 1-4 and 6390 fits gen 5. My g45 is a gen 5. |
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My G19 Gen 5 works just fine with my 6354 holsters. Ignore the missing extractor on the slide, I have another slide for my 19 (and 19x/45 in the next photos) Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: G19x/45 combo https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_193604_jpg-2180201.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_193615_jpg-2180202.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_193710_jpg-2180203.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_193650_jpg-2180204.JPG View Quote Thank you @Pleaforwar. I’ve also come across a 6395RDS-2832. It seems pretty much identical to the other holsters I’ve mentioned, but comes with a low ride UBL. I’m starting to think that, besides variations for what Safariland claims is differences for different generations of glocks, that the model numbers have more to do with the attachments that are included than anything else 🤷🏻♂️ |
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I avoided a dedicated "war belt" for years preferring to build up from my CCW. But I'm trying it out, had this set up for about 6 month now. New on top, old on bottom. Still perfecting it.
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Originally Posted By mudholestomper: Thank you @Pleaforwar. I’ve also come across a 6395RDS-2832. It seems pretty much identical to the other holsters I’ve mentioned, but comes with a low ride UBL. I’m starting to think that, besides variations for what Safariland claims is differences for different generations of glocks, that the model numbers have more to do with the attachments that are included than anything else 🤷🏻♂️ View Quote Someone may come in and correct me, but I've seen the 6390 used more by LEO's, I'm guessing since it goes up to Level III retention. I've seen DOD users who are issued Glocks use the 6354 more often. A friendly heads up, Primary Arms has the G17 6354DO in multicam and a QLS fork for $108.80 before shipping and tax. Not sure where you are in Texas but if you can just go pick it up even the better. |
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Has anyone had a chance to try out the Kinetic Consulting / Flat Line Fiber Co dump pouch yet? I'm really intrigued by the fact that it can mount under a rifle mag pouch, effectively taking up zero belt space. https://www.talkinglead.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/IMG_7410-1-510x340.jpg https://www.kinetic-consulting.net/product-page/the-dump-pouch View Quote If it isn't cinched down anything mounted that low is going to fly out of the pouch when you start running. |
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Originally Posted By beitodstr:
SOON WE WILL JUST UPLOAD OUR RECOIL TO THE CLOUD Originally Posted By iwk: Libs believe in a future that can’t exist, conservative believe in a world that never existed. |
Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Current setup with new esstac enhanced shooters belt https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_211755-2180171.jpg View Quote HTF did you get an AOR2 mag pouch? If Esstac does AOR2, Im about to place another order. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: HTF did you get an AOR2 mag pouch? If Esstac does AOR2, Im about to place another order. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Current setup with new esstac enhanced shooters belt https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_211755-2180171.jpg HTF did you get an AOR2 mag pouch? If Esstac does AOR2, Im about to place another order. Thats MARPAT |
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Trying out a new belt from a local builder. Was able to meet in person, and have a custom belt made for my 8yr old. Its.... small :)
Of couse, Esstac mag holders. Exumbris Designs Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By white-rhyno: Trying out a new belt from a local builder. Was able to meet in person, and have a custom belt made for my 8yr old. Its.... small :) Of couse, Esstac mag holders. Exumbris Designs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361927/20211124_145422_jpg-2181892.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361927/20211125_121505_jpg-2181893.JPG View Quote That photo of your boy wins the pic of the day contest. 100% awesome. |
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Originally Posted By white-rhyno: Trying out a new belt from a local builder. Was able to meet in person, and have a custom belt made for my 8yr old. Its.... small :) Of couse, Esstac mag holders. Exumbris Designs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361927/20211124_145422_jpg-2181892.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361927/20211125_121505_jpg-2181893.JPG View Quote Rock on! Great job |
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"When I pass away, I hope my wife sells my stuff for what it's worth, and not what I told her I paid for it !!"
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Current setup with new esstac enhanced shooters belt https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_211755-2180171.jpg View Quote Is this a new esstac product? I have a regular shooters belt. How do you like the Enhanced? |
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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Originally Posted By gont: Is this a new esstac product? I have a regular shooters belt. How do you like the Enhanced? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By gont: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Current setup with new esstac enhanced shooters belt https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_211755-2180171.jpg Is this a new esstac product? I have a regular shooters belt. How do you like the Enhanced? It's 30% lighter and stiffer. Stu says I'm retarded for buying it because they're going to have a special Monday. Also, the ends of the belt are much easier to deal with. They're thinner near the buckle and when you're sizing it for yourself it is easier to get the buckles off and on. |
Originally Posted By beitodstr:
SOON WE WILL JUST UPLOAD OUR RECOIL TO THE CLOUD Originally Posted By iwk: Libs believe in a future that can’t exist, conservative believe in a world that never existed. |
I think I was in this thread very early on.
I see my HSG belt is a dinosaur now. Just ordered the blue alpha molle belt. Thanks for keeping this alive. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: It's 30% lighter and stiffer. Stu says I'm retarded for buying it because they're going to have a special Monday. Also, the ends of the belt are much easier to deal with. They're thinner near the buckle and when you're sizing it for yourself it is easier to get the buckles off and on. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_191527-2179957.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_190423-2179949.jpg View Quote Thanks! I just ordered one also. Stiffer is great since that was the one thing that I thought needed improving. I could use a few more things so maybe Monday will pay off. How long has this belt been out? |
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
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Originally Posted By gont: Thanks! I just ordered one also. Stiffer is great since that was the one thing that I thought needed improving. I could use a few more things so maybe Monday will pay off. How long has this belt been out? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By gont: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: It's 30% lighter and stiffer. Stu says I'm retarded for buying it because they're going to have a special Monday. Also, the ends of the belt are much easier to deal with. They're thinner near the buckle and when you're sizing it for yourself it is easier to get the buckles off and on. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_191527-2179957.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_190423-2179949.jpg Thanks! I just ordered one also. Stiffer is great since that was the one thing that I thought needed improving. I could use a few more things so maybe Monday will pay off. How long has this belt been out? Not that long maybe 3 weeks? |
Originally Posted By beitodstr:
SOON WE WILL JUST UPLOAD OUR RECOIL TO THE CLOUD Originally Posted By iwk: Libs believe in a future that can’t exist, conservative believe in a world that never existed. |
Originally Posted By Castrolr1: I think I was in this thread very early on. I see my HSG belt is a dinosaur now. Just ordered the blue alpha molle belt. Thanks for keeping this alive. View Quote I just upgraded my belt after 15 years. A buddy of mine is going to rock my old school Jones Tactical belt. I didn't need to replace it, but my inner geardo caught up with me. I've got some HSGI and Wilder Tactical stuff hitting the house this week. I think a lot of us here are just a weird subset of the population. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284414/20211118_174246_jpg-2171879.JPG I should stop procrastinating and put this completely together, but I need a med kit and haven't decided on what to get. View Quote https://www.refugemedical.com for the kit. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284414/20211118_174246_jpg-2171879.JPG I should stop procrastinating and put this completely together, but I need a med kit and haven't decided on what to get. View Quote |
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"When I pass away, I hope my wife sells my stuff for what it's worth, and not what I told her I paid for it !!"
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Originally Posted By acegunner: Love that pattern! It's nice to see the woodland look resurface lately. Are you looking for an IFAK to match? Are you going to have it on the small of your back? Obviously you are familiar with the popular options since you've been in this thread a long time. Is it just trying to find the Woodland pattern in something you like? Or just haven't decided on the actual pouch yet? View Quote It's a combination of deciding between m81 or solid green. I'm looking for the smaller ones, but bigger then the bfg micro I have on my other belt. |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @mudholestomper My G19 Gen 5 works just fine with my 6354 holsters. Ignore the missing extractor on the slide, I have another slide for my 19 (and 19x/45 in the next photos) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_193958_jpg-2180194.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_194014_jpg-2180195.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_194204_jpg-2180196.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204956/20211124_194217_jpg-2180197.JPG View Quote I’m looking for a holster like that for a Glock 45 with TRL7. Most of my safarilsnd holsters for the Glock 17 will not work with the G45. It sits too deep and wobbles around even with an X300 |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Current setup with new esstac enhanced shooters belt https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211124_211755-2180171.jpg View Quote @WhiskersTheCat OR anyone.... Does anyone know the difference between the original Esstac belt and the enhanced version? ETA: I see it now. |
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@StevenH
I just tried my G19.5 with a XC1 in the G34 6354 and while it locks in, there is plenty of play. As far as I am aware Safariland doesn't make ALS holsters that specifically work with compact lights. While they will lock, I doubt you'll ever get a snug fit. If you want a OWB holster with retention, specifically for a G45 and a TLR7, you can check out the following: Red River Tactical Holsters Dara Holsters Alien Gear I don't know about the quality of above holsters, but they all claim to fit the TLR-7. Sorry I couldn't be much more assistance. |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @StevenH I just tried my G19.5 with a XC1 in the G34 6354 and while it locks in, there is plenty of play. As far as I am aware Safariland doesn't make ALS holsters that specifically work with compact lights. While they will lock, I doubt you'll ever get a snug fit. . View Quote Does it stop at the correct height or does it over insert for lack of a better term? |
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Safariland 6xxx holsters index off of the ejection port cut in the slide. A 19/19x/45/17/34 will all sit equally in a holster designed for a 34. If you want to remove play, tighten the retention screw and install a foam pad on the light port.
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Safariland 6xxx holsters index off of the ejection port cut in the slide. A 19/19x/45/17/34 will all sit equally in a holster designed for a 34. If you want to remove play, tighten the retention screw and install a foam pad on the light port. View Quote I will second this. I go between a 19, 17, and 34 and my 34+x300 holster works for all of them. If it's made for a light it works a lot better if the light is mounted. Indexing is a little goofy without one, but if I recall it will index and lock-in all the same, whether you are using the light or not. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Safariland 6xxx holsters index off of the ejection port cut in the slide. A 19/19x/45/17/34 will all sit equally in a holster designed for a 34. If you want to remove play, tighten the retention screw and install a foam pad on the light port. View Quote There must be a problem with my 6390RDS then. Because my Glock 45 & 19 sit about 1/4 inch deeper into the holster than a Glock 17 does. I’ll take some pics this weekend With my holster, Unless the WML bottoms out, insertion depth is determined by the muzzle hitting the brl plug. ALS only stops rearward travel not forward travel. Here is a Glock17MOS w X300U-B in my holster Attached File Attached File It’s latched in place allowing a full master grip and the mag release can be accessed with the gun in the holster if needed. When I put a Glock 19 or 45 with an x300 in the same holster the mag release is completely inside the holster. Appears the dept of inserting with the shorter slide is determined only by the face of the WML bottoming out because the muzzle cannot reach the brl stop? |
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My 4” 1911 with x300 sits to deep as well.
I typically keep a tlr7 on it anyways so built it up with a toy block and Velcro. |
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Originally Posted By Lancelot: @WhiskersTheCat OR anyone.... Does anyone know the difference between the original Esstac belt and the enhanced version? ETA: I see it now. View Quote I received my 2" enhanced shooters belt today but have not switched my gear over to it yet. It is very light, thin, and stiffer than the original. I have wished for a stiffer version of the shooters belt for a while now. |
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What influences the decision between 1.75” or 2” belt?
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"Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts," San Diego-based U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By JUDGED12carried6: What influences the decision between 1.75” or 2” belt? Overthinking This. I started with a 2in belt. Never again. 1.75 master race |
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Cool thanks. I’ll go with 1.75 when I find a deal. Had the Cyber Monday Esstac belt in my cart. Changed my mind. Why pay for pouches I won’t use?
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"Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts," San Diego-based U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez
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Black friday finally came around. Not sure if I want to get a holster for my sp2022 or just save more and get a Glock 19 and a holster at the same time. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: New holster on it. I'll keep the wml ALS hand for the next full-sized railed 1911 I get. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/IMG_20211124_141408_2_jpg-2179637.JPG View Quote Drilled some holes to straighten the drop on the holster. IMO the SLS needs a straight drop. |
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