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Posted: 3/28/2007 5:19:09 PM EDT
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I'm a long time 870 guy. I own a 11-87P and recently purchased the M4. I've shot hundreds of rounds down range with it and I must say that slug, buck, birdshot..... it eats everything without a malfunction.
I've used several types of "tactical" low recoil buck and bottom line is that the gun works. I took it to Louis Awerbuck's shotgun course last fall and discussed it with him. I used an 870 for the course since it's my duty gun. Louis said he's taught hundreds of Marines on the M4 and he hasn't seen one malfunction either. Good enough for me. I'd bet my life on it... I guess that's the best I can offer. |
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Posted: 3/28/2007 5:33:36 PM EDT
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I guy at work has one and his sometimes does not work with the low recoil buck with 8 pellets. It is new it might just need breaking in too I told him.
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Posted: 3/29/2007 12:04:15 PM EDT
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the only problem i have with it, is some times, you can shoot faster than the action. happened to me multiple times. my m1 seems to be faster.
on the plus, my m4 cycles on bags, i haven't seen another semi do that, my m1 couldn't. during my break in period i had some problems but now, it just works... |
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Posted: 3/29/2007 7:21:31 PM EDT
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yea i did some looking around on the net and think im going to pick up one thats got the pistol grip/sliding stock on it , and i did a quick look on brownells.com and they offer a 2 shot mag extention for the m4 benelli im hoping it replaces the limited capacity tube they have on there has anyone done this mod?
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Posted: 3/30/2007 12:41:12 AM EDT
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the collapseable stocks are starting to sell for insane prices, benelli stopped sellin them to john q public... a couple on gun broker were sellin for 750 bux.
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Posted: 4/1/2007 4:36:16 AM EDT
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M4 model 11707 - 18" barrel Semi-Auto
http://www.lesalesusa.com/products/benelli.htm This is the Military M4 - JSCS $1,429 plus shipping $1,700 plus shipping includes collapsible stock (not shown) Price of $1,700.00 includes the LE/Military collapsible stock (shipped in separate box), but not the extended magazine tube as seen in the photo. Gun comes from Benelli with pistol grip fixed stock installed. LE/Military collapsible stock can be purchased separately for $350 plus shipping. Purchaser is responsible for verifying local and state laws for legality BEFORE purchasing collapsible stock and extended magazine tube. I bought one from them a few months ago. They will sell to civilians. |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 5:21:08 AM EDT
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Local laws do not matter when it comes to an extended mag tube on a Benelli. If it has a pistol grip, extended tube and is not "pre-ban" then you could be facing possible legal problems. I write this not to be a stick in the mud.. but to let people who may not know
It either has to be Regular stock and extended tube OR pistol grip and +2 In any event the M4 is nice... but for the money the M1/M2/M3 do the same thing for alot less. |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 10:52:42 AM EDT
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Not shure how much less for the M3, most i see gong new are about 1200 or 1300 NIB, lucky me i just picked up a H&K Benelli M3 last week for 800 clams
Jesse |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 10:55:35 AM EDT
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care to clarify? there is no longer a ban in place... state and local laws still may prohibit collapsible stocks and high capacity mags (ie: NJ, CA, MD, NY) i have an M3... i paid $1000 for it NIB with the mag extension a few years ago... i have never had a failure in it through several hundred rounds of buckshot, slugs, birdshot, etc... doesn't the M4 use some type of spring assisted gas operation to help cycle the lighter loads like bean bags, breaching, and non-lethal rounds? i've fired a few breaching rounds through my M3 but i switched it to "pump" action to cycle them... |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 11:33:51 AM EDT
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It is 1989 922 complient law U need to go buy not the AWB law. U can add all the stuff so long it is the tube is US made . Every gun(HK, Ak's, Sigs, etc) that comes into the country has to follow the part counts. THe M4 is gas + inert system.
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Posted: 4/2/2007 12:37:16 PM EDT
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You are right (922 compliant) what was I thinking...
Personally I would like to see them take someone to court over it.. Just another one of those "Stupid" laws,,,, |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 3:10:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2007 3:43:45 PM EDT
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Nope, they're imported from Italy. In order to be imported as a sporting shotgun it cannot have more than 1 evil feature. Those being, folding or telescoping stocks, pistol grip, magazine capacity more than 5 rounds, or ability to accept a detachable magazine. |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 7:26:46 PM EDT
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So... could I get the M4 with the standard stock (non-pistol) and then add the extension tube? I don't really see the collapsable stock as very functional. Looks cool, but that's about it. As far as I know, it only has extended or retracted settings.
I'm looking at either this or the M3 with an extension. |
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Posted: 4/2/2007 10:21:06 PM EDT
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id like to buy one with the collapseable stock/the pistol grip and then go threw brownells and add the mag extension , make it just like the usmc's gun
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Posted: 4/3/2007 6:36:58 AM EDT
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Look at this first. It's a 1 piece mag tube, and very good quality. Plus it's "US" made. http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7817 |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 2:04:59 PM EDT
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i was interested in the full length tube for my m4 benelli anyone out there have any suggestions.
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Posted: 4/21/2007 5:15:21 PM EDT
[#18]
I found this for something like 30-40 bucks at a yard sale:  
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Posted: 4/23/2007 2:36:15 PM EDT
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I found this for something like 30-40 bucks at a yard sale: Thats kind of expensive for a box 
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Posted: 4/23/2007 8:22:12 PM EDT
[#20]
ah, but the box is full, ...i hope |
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Posted: 4/24/2007 7:01:58 AM EDT
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Who was selling a part that is currently going for 750 online, for 40 bucks? |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 7:03:32 AM EDT
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Criminey! i just looked at Gunbroker, and theres one like mine (gun, ext, and stock) going for $2700 with the collaspable stock. If thats true, mine is going up for sale.
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Posted: 4/25/2007 9:16:07 AM EDT
[#23]
junker you should sell the stock to me for $400
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Posted: 4/25/2007 3:25:54 PM EDT
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I would really be suprised if that thing sold that high. The stocks I've seen actually sell have been about 600. Which means you would get at most 2K for your package deal. Never under-estimate stupid people though. So... did you purchase that stock off some widow that didn't know any better??? 
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Posted: 4/25/2007 8:27:54 PM EDT
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Nah, I'll come clean: I didn't really know a lot about these things, then or now, when I saw it on a pile of about 20 new ones at a funshow in Dallas. At the time, any weapon I bought was militarily-connected (caliber or model) and I knew the Marines used them. I was walking away after the purchase and the clerk said "wait, this comes with it" and handed me that box. I've never opened it. Now, when I sent the gun back for its recall, I have wondered if it had the milled tube and was it removed? |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 11:05:56 PM EDT
[#26]
recall????
is there something i should know about the m4 recall before i send the payment in for mine?? |
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Posted: 4/26/2007 4:25:14 AM EDT
[#27]
No joke! I haven't heard anything about a recall???
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Posted: 4/26/2007 5:33:13 AM EDT
[#28]
That was my phrase for it, in fact I learned of it here. The deal was a condition/situation dealing with the "4 hole-ported" barrels (for the gas operating system). The fix was to simply send in the gun and Benelli would switch out the barrel for the 2 hole one.
I've since run less than, say, 100 rounds thru it, and overall less than 500. That being said, and not being an avid shotty owner, I'm not sure these things justify the expense over a domestic version. |
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Posted: 4/26/2007 11:06:19 AM EDT
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Junker46,
Do you mind telling us how much you paid? ETA: And how about some pics? 
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Posted: 4/29/2007 2:51:04 PM EDT
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The last letter that I had from the BATF said that you needed to swap 3 parts for US-made ones in order to install an extended magazine tube and telescoping stock. Their parts count is wrong -- 5 parts should be replaced. Their original letter said 1 part, so I bought a US-made magazine tube to be 922(r) compliant. Then they sent another letter months later saying that they'd made a mistake in their parts count and revised it to 3. At last check, there were only 2 US-made parts from the list of 20 -- magazine tubes and followers. If someone would make a US-made handguard, that would bring it up to 3 and make them legal for now. It's only a matter of time until the mail out a new letter updating the count to 5.
I got fed up with the 922(r) crap, and sold my 11707 at a local gunshow with the regular stock on it, then sold the telescoping stock here on Arfcom for around $75, if I remember correctly. It was a great shotgun, and never malfunctioned, but I wasn't about to jump through 1000 hoops to comply with the law. It wasn't worth the hassle. |
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Posted: 4/30/2007 9:00:48 AM EDT
[#31]
The fact that we have to swap in US made parts to make a gun acceptable is batshit insane. 
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Posted: 4/30/2007 12:37:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Ain't that the truth. Using the country of origin as the deciding factor isn't very intelligent. |
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Posted: 4/30/2007 12:46:57 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm fairly confused about this crap. Literally a few days after I read that Benelli was no longer selling to civies, gunbroker prices went from $130 to damn near $1k ... read some on the benelli forums and supposedly class 3 dealers can still get them. Any class 3 dealer types here know if this is BS or not? Follow-up to that: care to hook up a fellow ARFCOMer?
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Posted: 5/1/2007 1:41:01 PM EDT
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see below |
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Posted: 5/1/2007 1:43:36 PM EDT
[#35]
here ya go. lets see the results of phooling with photoshop...
 It has plastics stocks, made of blue steel, a non-hair trigger, and retails for about $1700. S Marts top of the line. YOU GOT THAT!!! eta; now that i look at it, its rather a nice looking gun. |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 10:04:05 PM EDT
[#36]
nice gauge, im still trying to find one with the collapsible stock i know there out there just none around here in the configuration i want
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Posted: 8/11/2007 5:10:53 AM EDT
[#37]
The reason you aren't finding the collapsible stocks (or magazine extension for that matter) is that Benelli is no longer selling them to civilians due to pressure from the BATF. |
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Posted: 8/13/2007 1:01:00 PM EDT
[#38]
There's no law against owning an uninstalled stock. Unless the BATF has made some wacky ruling very recently, NFA still trumps 922(r). There have been many AK variants built into SBR's with foreign parts without using US-made compliance parts. |
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Posted: 8/14/2007 2:40:36 PM EDT
[#39]
*shrug* I just won an auction on gunbroker for an M4. Still looking for a collapsible stock that doesn't break the bank. Already got quite a few US made parts in place to comply with the made-up 922(r) mumbo-jumbo.
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Posted: 8/14/2007 2:51:40 PM EDT
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In my experience the M4 runs perfectly until you add the two shot extention. Maybe the spring isn't set up for the extra shells? ymmv. 1,500 bucks for the limited edition.
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Posted: 8/14/2007 4:55:46 PM EDT
[#41]
Out of curiosity, what parts US-made parts do you have? The only ones I am aware of are the SureCycle magzine followers and the very limited special run of US-made full length tubes offered on the internet by two different individuals last year. The Benelli M4 shotgun consists of the following 15 parts: 1. Receiver 2. Barrel 3. Bolt 4. Bolt carrier 5. Gas pistons 6. Trigger housing 7. Trigger 8. Hammer 9. Sear 10. Disconnector 11. Buttstock 12. Pistol grip 13. Forearm 14. Magazine body 15. Follower Five of the above parts would have to be swapped for US-made parts in order to be 922(r) compliant and legally install a working telestock and increase magazine capacity. |
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Posted: 8/14/2007 9:41:38 PM EDT
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Does oversized safety button or charging handle count?
I know DMW does those parts and they fit in M4 (i have those in my M4). Bought them few years back from speedshooters. ETA: looked Dave's metal works homepage. They also make the picatinny rail to benelli, could that be counted as a part as well? 
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Posted: 8/14/2007 9:57:30 PM EDT
[#43]
When i addet +2 extension, i bought new about 10" longer spring from local gunsmith -> zero problems. Hey, there's another part, that you can buy and is locally made!
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Posted: 8/15/2007 4:21:52 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Does oversized safety button or charging handle count? I know DMW does those parts and they fit in M4 (i have those in my M4). Bought them few years back from speedshooters. ETA: looked Dave's metal works homepage. They also make the picatinny rail to benelli, could that be counted as a part as well? I tried to google it and couldn't find it.....link? |
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Posted: 8/15/2007 4:40:12 AM EDT
[#45]
davesmetalworks.com |
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Posted: 8/15/2007 5:02:52 AM EDT
[#46]
I thought you were talking about a railed forearm for some reason, I heard that surefire was making one. thanks for the link.......guess I need more coffee
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Posted: 8/15/2007 12:55:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Springs don't count, nor do oversized safety buttons or charging handles. ONLY the 15 parts on the list. |
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Posted: 8/15/2007 10:08:05 PM EDT
[#48]
I dont want to sound mean, but i think your regulations s#ck big time! Good luck guys, i hope you find all 5 locally made parts soon! |
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Posted: 8/16/2007 7:48:41 AM EDT
[#49]
Too true 
To clarify "doesn't break the bank" I'm not paying $500 for a damn stock. It's a freakin stock for cryin out loud... if I wanted to pay >2x what something was worth, I'd go get that HK SOCOM pistol at the gunshop I saw yesterday. Shit, $2.1k for a .45ACP HK! That being said, I've got a full length mag tube from one of the individuals mentioned above :) One part down, looking into getting 4 more :) Looking at: Forearm - $200ish Surefire M80 rail BenelliUSA link Follower - $14-$20 From Brownell (SS or AL) or CactusTactical (Teflon coated - Note, I don't know if this would actually help, etc... it sounds cool, so chances are it's snake oil. $15 Barrel Something Vang Comp... gotta locate a source though. Well, that brings the part totals to 4 ... need 1 more; any suggestions? Man, a US made collapsible buttstock would rock. Someone poke Magpul. 
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Posted: 8/16/2007 1:18:56 PM EDT
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 Yeah, trying to jump though the BATF's hoops and locate US-made parts is what made me sell mine. |
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