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Posted: 4/29/2020 10:15:17 PM EDT
So, I've been hot to build up a very specific MkII pistol, and the pieces finally came together.
First, I spotted this gem on Armslist for the ridiculous price of just $175:  Gun's in great shape, came with two mags, did the deed same day in the Home Depot parking lot in under 5 minutes. How do I not take that deal? I don't like skinny barrels, or those big, rubber "finger grips." Well, neither was going to be a problem. After searching around for a bit, I landed on a pair of Pachmayr Renegade Laminate wood grips. Nice and slender. Now for that barrel. I sent it Dave Wilson for a little nip here and a little tuck there, and today I got this back:  Oh, that looks nice. With a full-size thread protector, it almost looks factory.  Well, OK. Maybe not. I haven't decided on the front sight yet. I'm thinking either changing the rear sight to an adjustable, and having the front drilled/tapped for the matching front, or just having a dovetail cut and adding a lower front sight to match the fixed rear. I'm also leaning heavily to removing the rear sight altogether and adding a Burris Fastfire 3. Decisions... But, I know some are already asking "WTF did you do that?" Well, 'cuz I always wanted this:  That's my Form 1 can on the front. Looks pretty cool. Here's my AAC Element II:  The Sig SRD22X can looks kind of funky here:  But the Oculus in the short mode looks pretty cool:  Haven't been able to shoot it unsuppressed yet. Not sure the neighbors would appreciate that, but suppressed, it runs like a champ with AE Suppressor and Federal Bulk Pak. Fun project, and I'll be interested in seeing how it runs without the can. It's certainly a hoot in "quiet mode." |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 11:00:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: It's still amazing that the actual firearm component of Ruger MK pistols is practically disposable, but the grips are hens teeth, lol. Magpul could make a mint with polymer lowers. No shit... |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 12:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: It's still amazing that the actual firearm component of Ruger MK pistols is practically disposable, but the grips are hens teeth, lol. Magpul could make a mint with polymer lowers. The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option. |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 12:22:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Originally Posted By BillythePoet: It's still amazing that the actual firearm component of Ruger MK pistols is practically disposable, but the grips are hens teeth, lol. Magpul could make a mint with polymer lowers. The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option. I need a Mk III frame so I can dual-wield my TACSOL and eventually chopped factory upper 
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Posted: 4/18/2023 3:26:24 PM EDT
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3-D print a lower? I have a Mk 2 that needs a pistol grip, I should investigate.
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Posted: 4/18/2023 5:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: 3-D print a lower? I have a Mk 2 that needs a pistol grip, I should investigate. To be fair, the "lower" is also where all the expensive parts are, so it's not shocking they're $$$ but year, seem a bit much!!!! |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 10:18:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Outrider: The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option. I didn't know this existed. Originally Posted By BullpupFan: To be fair, the "lower" is also where all the expensive parts are, so it's not shocking they're $$$ but year, seem a bit much!!!! Yeah, but if you're already installing grips and VQ trigger, why not buy a stripped lower? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2023 7:01:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: arndog123]
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Finally part of the Stubby club
 . Just picked it up and installed a 507K dot. The bolt is an upgraded Volquartsen unit. It’s DLC coated and houses their firing pin and extractor. Hopefully I’ll get to shoot it tomorrow. Here it is next to my MKIV Target.   
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 8:03:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2023 12:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rockyriver: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ac216/Rockyriver1234/IMG_6852.JPG" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ac216/Rockyriver1234/IMG_6852.JPG That doesn't look like a rimfire pistol. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 12:53:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2023 7:54:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rockyriver: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ac216/Rockyriver1234/IMG_6852.JPG" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ac216/Rockyriver1234/IMG_6852.JPG Glock model .5 |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 1:42:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BullpupFan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: That doesn't look like a Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Rockyriver: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ac216/Rockyriver1234/IMG_6852.JPG" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ac216/Rockyriver1234/IMG_6852.JPG That doesn't look like a FIFY Finest Photochop around |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 6:34:24 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2023 9:16:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aksahsalahs: MKIV Snubby I'm messing around with. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101965/snubby_jpg-2808077.JPG I have got to know what those grips are, they look amazing. |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 10:21:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2023 9:41:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan: I have got to know what those grips are, they look amazing. It’s the Enhanced Systems sidewinder grip module. It can accept the FAB Cobra stock for Glock pistols, making it an SBR. It’s actually pretty comfortable from a grip stand point, now to decide if I actually want to SBR a MKIV upper 😂 |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2023 1:14:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aksahsalahs: It’s the Enhanced Systems sidewinder grip module. It can accept the FAB Cobra stock for Glock pistols, making it an SBR. It’s actually pretty comfortable from a grip stand point, now to decide if I actually want to SBR a MKIV upper 😂 I'm not interested in SBR'ing mine, they just look really comfortable. Thanks! |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 4:01:19 PM EDT
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Where is everyone getting their barrels shortened for the Ruger pistols?
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Posted: 5/18/2023 6:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FMRMARINE41: Where is everyone getting their barrels shortened for the Ruger pistols? I emailed Morgan at https://class3machining.com/ in early March and he replied with: Can cut, crown and thread it for 90 if just upper is sent. Then just include a prepaid return label, most of my customers use pirateship.com 5-7 business day turnaround I think I need to get my butt in gear and mail him my OEM upper for a chop. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 1:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FMRMARINE41: Where is everyone getting their barrels shortened for the Ruger pistols? He's not doing them right now but I had mine done by D.Wilson. No experience with them, but MK3 Firearms work looks good. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:25:40 PM EDT
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Is there a reason why D. Wison and a lot of others stopped doing it?
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Posted: 5/20/2023 12:30:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: aksahsalahs]
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Pretty sure D.Wilson stopped due to the time involved in machine setup and work.
The barrel to receiver tolerances are pretty loosey-goosey which makes it more difficult to thread the barrel when it’s not square/true to the receiver. He posted a video on the run out once, it was pretty wild. Edit: video is back on page 6. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 1:39:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FMRMARINE41: Is there a reason why D. Wison and a lot of others stopped doing it? Money. Same reason Morgan from class three stopped doing anything other than threading. Anyone who is good has more work than they know what to do with so they focus on higher profit stuff usually. I think it was D Wilson who did the one I want by machining the barrel stub so the can directly threaded onto it(might have been someone else). Really clean setup and gave you the max barrel length without adding OAL. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 8:39:06 PM EDT
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Does anyone know how often Volquartsen releases their 3.5” MkIV uppers? I missed the one that popped up in the EE
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:45:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: unclemoak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FMRMARINE41: Is there a reason why D. Wison and a lot of others stopped doing it? Two reasons really. The first is because they are somewhat challenging and time consuming to do correctly. When you cut them really short like 2.1" or so, you have to hold the receiver in the chuck. Since the barrels never seem to be threaded into the receiver straight, you have to be able to correct for axial and radial runout when you indicate them in. I have a pretty specialized ($4-5K) lathe chuck to be able to do them. The second and bigger reason is the customers. You would not believe the petty crap that people whine about with these Ruger's. It's literally the biggest PSO pot metal mass produced .22 LR pistol. It's a piece of shit, but people think they are buying a damn Holland and Holland with their grandma's last dollar. It's a short .22 that you can expect soda can accuracy at 10 yards.  |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:54:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: unclemoak]
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Here's a video showing how sloppy these things are (for some reason I can't imbed a youtube short)
https://youtube.com/shorts/ovkxwRvcnv4?feature=share |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 7:54:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Here's a video showing how sloppy these things are (for some reason I can't imbed a youtube short) https://youtube.com/shorts/ovkxwRvcnv4?feature=share @unclemoak Video is set to private when I click the link. Sent you a PM |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 9:23:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Two reasons really. The first is because they are somewhat challenging and time consuming to do correctly. When you cut them really short like 2.1" or so, you have to hold the receiver in the chuck. Since the barrels never seem to be threaded into the receiver straight, you have to be able to correct for axial and radial runout when you indicate them in. I have a pretty specialized ($4-5K) lathe chuck to be able to do them. The second and bigger reason is the customers. You would not believe the petty crap that people whine about with these Ruger's. It's literally the biggest PSO pot metal mass produced .22 LR pistol. It's a piece of shit, but people think they are buying a damn Holland and Holland with their grandma's last dollar. It's a short .22 that you can expect soda can accuracy at 10 yards. https://i.imgur.com/3TDmfof.jpg |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:36:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: @unclemoak Video is set to private when I click the link. Sent you a PM Video set to public now. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:40:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Video set to public now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: @unclemoak Video is set to private when I click the link. Sent you a PM Video set to public now. Wow...I'm not a machinist, but those little needles bouncing all over leads me to believe these things are pretty far from "straight and true" from the factory
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2023 5:26:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Neon_Horse]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Two reasons really. The first is because they are somewhat challenging and time consuming to do correctly. When you cut them really short like 2.1" or so, you have to hold the receiver in the chuck. Since the barrels never seem to be threaded into the receiver straight, you have to be able to correct for axial and radial runout when you indicate them in. I have a pretty specialized ($4-5K) lathe chuck to be able to do them. The second and bigger reason is the customers. You would not believe the petty crap that people whine about with these Ruger's. It's literally the biggest PSO pot metal mass produced .22 LR pistol. It's a piece of shit, but people think they are buying a damn Holland and Holland with their grandma's last dollar. It's a short .22 that you can expect soda can accuracy at 10 yards. https://i.imgur.com/3TDmfof.jpg @unclemoak How do I get one of those POS uppers?! 
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:42:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Here's a video showing how sloppy these things are (for some reason I can't imbed a youtube short) https://youtube.com/shorts/ovkxwRvcnv4?feature=share  Axial and radial runout on a Ruger MKIV |
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Posted: 6/15/2023 8:08:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2023 7:42:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2024 8:34:14 PM EDT
[#35]
I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me.
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Posted: 1/24/2024 8:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me. D.Wilson is up an running them again. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 8:44:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2024 9:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me. D.Wilson is up an running them again. Outstanding! |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 9:27:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Outstanding! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Originally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me. D.Wilson is up an running them again. Outstanding! Might be time for me to send my factory MK III upper in. ETA: order placed. Now to box up the OEM upper and get it to Mr. Wilson. Figure my TAC SOL threaded upper will hit the EE once I have the little guy in hand. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 9:43:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is great news. Man is a wizard with these. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 9:48:20 PM EDT
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Dang it, mine is tapered I gotta find another upper.
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Posted: 1/24/2024 10:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover: Dang it, mine is tapered I gotta find another upper. MKIV? https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/4954?clearance=1 |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 11:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: MKIV? https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/4954?clearance=1 I have a mk2 and a mk3 unfortunately |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 8:46:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: airgunner]
[#44]
Quote HistoryJust got mine back a few days ago...  I think I'm going to get it cerakoted |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 9:11:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPSae6nr_8AAC Element II. Fed Bulk Pak 36gr Don't tell my wife. She's in the family room, and what she doesn't know/can't hear, can't hurt me. I love my Element II. It spends most of its time on a Subcal smg kit. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 11:50:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wildearp]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: It greatly depends on what ammo is used. https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2012%2016%2001%20PM.jpg Standard bulk pack yields about https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2012%2003%2001%20PM.jpg Aguila Super Colibri's yields about https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2012%2015%2053%20PM.jpg As for moving the front sight, the standard front sight can be cut down in height, shortened front to back, and moved back to the scope mount hole on the receiver. https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2010%2051%2059%20AM.jpg This one still needs a little trimming to the front to be flush with the front of the receiver. https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2010%2051%2056%20AM.jpg  I could only wish I had the scope mount holes that come with the newer guns. This was a bolt on solution using the dovetail groove, with a Riton RDS:  I traded a Taurus for it and had Gem-Tech thread it a long time ago. |
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Posted: 2/18/2024 8:49:05 PM EDT
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I dropped $40 otd on a 5.5 from wirthwein and a friend cut,thread and crowned at 3inch. love it.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:51:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LUZCANNON: I dropped $40 otd on a 5.5 from wirthwein and a friend cut,thread and crowned at 3inch. love it. so quiet That wirthwein site is great, thanks for mentioning it as I've never heard of them before. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:03:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: That wirthwein site is great, thanks for mentioning it as I've never heard of them before. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 4:08:19 PM EDT
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Well, I sent my OEM Mk III upper to D Wilson to have cut down, but USPS somehow did this, so I’m not sure what my next steps will be.
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