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I read how you did that earlier in the thread... I'll give it a try! Thanks!
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What does the PWS Armorer at Quantico ,VA use to Blacken the Bar-Sto SS Barrels ?
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1 Cor 2:14~ "A person who isn't spiritual doesn't accept the things of God's Spirit, for they are nonsense to him. He can't understand them because they are spiritually evaluated."
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I am curious to know what SL-3 items these pistols are issued with? Are there any pictures from PWS that shows what is issued with them and are they issued with pelican cases or not?
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Someone is selling Berryhill Custom MEUSOC replica with crazy price. GB # 413310797. I will be interested to see if there is any taker. No relation with the seller.
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Woulda been a lot better with a Springfield slide. Even though I like the Colt slide better...
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That's pretty crazy. It's a nice 1911, but not very authentic. No Kings, not a Springfield or Caspian slide, reproduction frame and that's not even a Clark Grip safety.
Originally Posted By mlin:
Someone is selling Berryhill Custom MEUSOC replica with crazy price. GB # 413310797. I will be interested to see if there is any taker. No relation with the seller. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By lear60pilot:
That's pretty crazy. It's a nice 1911, but not very authentic. No Kings, not a Springfield or Caspian slide, reproduction frame and that's not even a Clark Grip safety. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lear60pilot:
That's pretty crazy. It's a nice 1911, but not very authentic. No Kings, not a Springfield or Caspian slide, reproduction frame and that's not even a Clark Grip safety. Originally Posted By mlin:
Someone is selling Berryhill Custom MEUSOC replica with crazy price. GB # 413310797. I will be interested to see if there is any taker. No relation with the seller. The David Sams clone I saw was the same way. CMC grip safety, vertical serrations, no lanyard loop. |
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Just saw a response by head of Colt Custom Shop regarding to change of M45A1 roll marks in another forum. Brent responded that All of them will have new roll marks, not just civilian version.
http://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=5047696&postcount=20 Sounds like price of those new roll mark M45A1 pistols will not go down any time soon. Probably not a good news for those trying to buy one. |
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How are you doing with the books Jeff? Do you want to release the retro looking version with the green covers and see if you can get some more donations prior to this project being completed?
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Hopefully this is ok to ask in this thread. I rescued an old US property marked 1911A1 frame that was previously chromed. Serial number puts its at 43 time frame. What would be the round about price If I were going to sell it. I figured this would be the best place to ask.
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Originally Posted By carmodyh: I would just stick with the bushing you have now unless you want to fit a new one. My bushing and barrel are stainless, and I just got some Brownells Alumahyde II flat black, degreased them, spray them with a couple of light coats, and baked them in the oven for an hour... abra cadabra... black barrel and bushing! Ive got about 500 rounds out of it and there is only a tiny wear mark on the hood... the alumahyde really is rock solid, did a couple of AKs as well... cheapest solid refinish I have used ~Harrison View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By carmodyh: Originally Posted By Alaskacajun: Yeah mlin is selling me a set of Pachmayr's so they are on the way... I need a blued barrel bushing as well... and after reading this thread from front to back twice I realize how far away I actually am, lol - Clint I would just stick with the bushing you have now unless you want to fit a new one. My bushing and barrel are stainless, and I just got some Brownells Alumahyde II flat black, degreased them, spray them with a couple of light coats, and baked them in the oven for an hour... abra cadabra... black barrel and bushing! Ive got about 500 rounds out of it and there is only a tiny wear mark on the hood... the alumahyde really is rock solid, did a couple of AKs as well... cheapest solid refinish I have used ~Harrison Little off topic for MEA(SOC) but I had to jump in and add my .02 on the Alumahyde II discussion. I've used it several times and as long as you prep the surface good and follow the direction on backing and curing it it comes out really nice, for the money it's quite a bargain in my book. This is a GI Springer I reworked and redid the finish on both the frame and slide using Alumahyde II |
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Can someone post a list of all the parts and manufacturers of all the parts of last photos of the Caspain Arms frame & Springfield slide & Bar-Sto barrel?
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It's on Pg. 1 sir.
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I was asking if any of the small parts changed makers brand from the early MEU (SOC ) to the last built before Colt started to make the 1911-A1 again after 80 years.
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The June 2009 parts list on page 1 was from the known solicitation document. It is as good as you can get. The later photos of M45 do show 2 visible difference:
1. Slide stop changed to Cylinder &Slide checkered type. 2. Pachmayr grips changed from GM-45C to GM-45. |
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Originally Posted By SleeperShooter:
This needs to have it's own thread. It'll get lost in this one. And that is absolutely beautiful work!!! I'd suggest you start one in the General Discussion area for the most traffic. There's a LOT of guys here that knew him. -SleeperShooter View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SleeperShooter:
Originally Posted By lear60pilot:
As some of you may know already we are working on a memorial project for Hobbs and I am honored to help bring this together. Here's a sneak peak of the 1911 project. The pistol on the right is Hobbs's MEUSOC. It is currently at Quantico and has been finished by PWS2112. There wasn't much left to do, just refinishing and some blending work. I'll get better pics soon for you guys. To date it's the most authentic Early or Variant 1 MEUSOC clone out there. Ben has finished it faithfully to PWS specs. And as you all know how detailed oriented Hobb's was, this pistol was 7 years in the making acquiring all the correct parts and his craftsmanship was maticulous. The other M45 on the left I s just a stand in, Hobb's Kimber DET-1 will go in its place. Once it is all done, the display will be presented back to his family by Marines for his two sons which were his intentions. Can't wait for this to be done, it's going to be kick ass. http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/lear60pilot/PWS/21bfae502e7d4b265c1e23de2e7a83c0_zpscc68656a.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/lear60pilot/PWS/feab98789f2cafc5670bcf0e8f3d77b1_zpsbce4b3bf.jpg This needs to have it's own thread. It'll get lost in this one. And that is absolutely beautiful work!!! I'd suggest you start one in the General Discussion area for the most traffic. There's a LOT of guys here that knew him. -SleeperShooter It has it's own thread here. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By SleeperShooter:
Originally Posted By lear60pilot:
As some of you may know already we are working on a memorial project for Hobbs and I am honored to help bring this together. Here's a sneak peak of the 1911 project. The pistol on the right is Hobbs's MEUSOC. It is currently at Quantico and has been finished by PWS2112. There wasn't much left to do, just refinishing and some blending work. I'll get better pics soon for you guys. To date it's the most authentic Early or Variant 1 MEUSOC clone out there. Ben has finished it faithfully to PWS specs. And as you all know how detailed oriented Hobb's was, this pistol was 7 years in the making acquiring all the correct parts and his craftsmanship was maticulous. The other M45 on the left I s just a stand in, Hobb's Kimber DET-1 will go in its place. Once it is all done, the display will be presented back to his family by Marines for his two sons which were his intentions. Can't wait for this to be done, it's going to be kick ass. http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/lear60pilot/PWS/21bfae502e7d4b265c1e23de2e7a83c0_zpscc68656a.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/lear60pilot/PWS/feab98789f2cafc5670bcf0e8f3d77b1_zpsbce4b3bf.jpg This needs to have it's own thread. It'll get lost in this one. And that is absolutely beautiful work!!! I'd suggest you start one in the General Discussion area for the most traffic. There's a LOT of guys here that knew him. -SleeperShooter It has it's own thread here. Dagnabbit. It was on page 3 of the 1911 forums. I stopped at 2. |
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Originally Posted By PWS2112:
After many builds for other people, I have finally built my own M45 CQBP. Everything about this pistol is 100% accurate, even the PWS-P stamp is the same stamp we used while build the M45 pistol for the Marine Corps. While I enjoy doing custom builds for others, it feels good to finish my project. Thanks for looking, enjoy! http://<a href=http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/pws2112/20140513_202117_zpsc26a4fd3.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/pws2112/20140513_202144_zpsf4d6c40e.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/pws2112/20140513_202249_zps00d7d8e9.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/pws2112/20140513_202349_zps4937c913.jpg</a>" /> View Quote Looks good man. Wish I could Commision you to build me one. |
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Hell yes!!!! Another nice looking M45. It's almost as good looking as mine :). I was wondering when you were going to be done with it. I can't wait to see the next pistol you get done :)
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My question is this: what is the proper finish for these and what finish is applied to the barrel? The black barrel hood just sets it off for me and I want to get it done on this loaded.
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Originally Posted By PWS2112:
As far as what PWS has done in the past for blackening the pistols, we have done a few different things. For the MEUSOC pistols, we parkerized almost everything and blackened the barrel using a stainless steel process. For the M45 pistols we would parkerize the parts first and then blue them. This gave a really dark, durable finish. Later on, we moved to just bluing the parts, which still gives a dark, durable finish without the extra step. There are many different ways, but for everyone who is interested here are the different processes that PWS has used or is currently using. Before any process the metal is prepped. Parts are all tested for what type of metal they are to determine the best process to use. The parts are wired in a way that they do not touch and the wire is tied off to create a loop. The parts are separated by metal type, generally this is either stainless steel or carbon steel. The parts are blasted with a silica bead media to give the metal a matte finish and to clean off any oils or residue. Once the parts are media blasted they are not touched again until after the entire blackening process is complete. The parts move into a heavy duty warm degreaser bath where they soak for 30 minutes. After this process the parts are rinsed in cool, clean water and moved to their respective processes. Parkerizing - The parts to be parkerized are placed in a bath with a manganese phosphate solution that is heated to 195 degrees and soak for 15 minutes. Bluing - Parts to be blued are placed in a bath with a black oxide salt solution that is heated to 285 degrees and soak for 30 minutes. For a darker finish parts are moved to a similar bath that is heated to 305 degrees and soak for another 30 minutes. Stainless blackening - Since stainless steel by its very nature resists coloring, a special process is used. Parts to be blackened are placed in an activator bath of 3-0 and soak for 20 minutes. They are then rinsed and moved to another bath of Aldak that is heated to 225 degrees to soak for another 30 minutes. Finishing - Regardless of the above process used all the parts are rinsed and moved to an oil bath to remove any water remaining on the parts and to seal the metal. If the parts are not going to be used immediately they are wrapped in a vapor barrier. If they are to be used the oil is cleaned off with a solvent and each part is lightly oiled before installation. I hope this gives valuable insight into what we do to blacken/blue metal at our shop. Thanks for asking! Ben View Quote |
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Originally Posted By PWS2112:
After many builds for other people, I have finally built my own M45 CQBP. Everything about this pistol is 100% accurate, even the PWS-P stamp is the same stamp we used while build the M45 pistol for the Marine Corps. While I enjoy doing custom builds for others, it feels good to finish my project. Thanks for looking, enjoy! View Quote Yours and Jeff's gorgeous M45 pictures coupled with the fact that I have a loaded slide and some of those other parts are a dangerous combination. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
I've got a solid line on a Springfield loaded. While it's not going to be an accurate clone, the spirit of this thread and pistol is the major driving force behind this purchase. My question is this: what is the proper finish for these and what finish is applied to the barrel? The black barrel hood just sets it off for me and I want to get it done on this loaded. View Quote Bump |
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Yeah $5900 is a little rich for my blood for a non-NFA gun... It's a nice lookin clone though! http://i61.tinypic.com/2uzz2fd.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/fn5tuc.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/29ql7qp.jpg - Clint View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Originally Posted By mlin:
Someone is selling Berryhill Custom MEUSOC replica with crazy price. GB # 413310797. I will be interested to see if there is any taker. No relation with the seller. Yeah $5900 is a little rich for my blood for a non-NFA gun... It's a nice lookin clone though! http://i61.tinypic.com/2uzz2fd.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/fn5tuc.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/29ql7qp.jpg - Clint I have an old colt series 70. Thinking about copying this, doesn't stray to far from a meusoc pistol? |
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Originally Posted By rushca01:
I have an old colt series 70. Thinking about copying this, doesn't stray to far from a meusoc pistol? View Quote The slide is completely wrong, which is a huge deal since it doesn't even look right from a distance. But I like regular vertical serrations better anyway. My perfect 1911 is a MESOC with vertical serrations and a single side safety.. |
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Originally Posted By samuse:
The slide is completely wrong, which is a huge deal since it doesn't even look right from a distance. But I like regular vertical serrations better anyway. My perfect 1911 is a MESOC with vertical serrations and a single side safety.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By rushca01:
I have an old colt series 70. Thinking about copying this, doesn't stray to far from a meusoc pistol? The slide is completely wrong, which is a huge deal since it doesn't even look right from a distance. But I like regular vertical serrations better anyway. My perfect 1911 is a MESOC with vertical serrations and a single side safety.. I like the standard serrations too. I may do it anyways, it won't be a meusoc clone bit I think it will be a nice looking pistol regardless. |
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Originally Posted By samuse:
The slide is completely wrong, which is a huge deal since it doesn't even look right from a distance. But I like regular vertical serrations better anyway. My perfect 1911 is a MESOC with vertical serrations and a single side safety.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By rushca01:
I have an old colt series 70. Thinking about copying this, doesn't stray to far from a meusoc pistol? The slide is completely wrong, which is a huge deal since it doesn't even look right from a distance. But I like regular vertical serrations better anyway. My perfect 1911 is a MESOC with vertical serrations and a single side safety.. There have been a few pictures posted of MEU(SOC) pistols with vertical cocking serrations on what appear to be Springfield slides. |
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I just got a SA Range Officer. Do you think it's worth trying to use it as a base for a meusoc or no?
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Originally Posted By ugotbit:
No, because of the goofy rear sight options. Great gun regardless. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ugotbit:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I just got a SA Range Officer. Do you think it's worth trying to use it as a base for a meusoc or no? No, because of the goofy rear sight options. Great gun regardless. I kinda figured I would have to replace the slide. I got the gun as a gift so it's like I'm starting at zero for all money added to it. |
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Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I kinda figured I would have to replace the slide. I got the gun as a gift so it's like I'm starting at zero for all money added to it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
Originally Posted By ugotbit:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I just got a SA Range Officer. Do you think it's worth trying to use it as a base for a meusoc or no? No, because of the goofy rear sight options. Great gun regardless. I kinda figured I would have to replace the slide. I got the gun as a gift so it's like I'm starting at zero for all money added to it. trade it for a loaded to use as a base or just make it a solid fighting pistol. or buy a new slide |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
trade it for a loaded to use as a base or just make it a solid fighting pistol. or buy a new slide View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
Originally Posted By ugotbit:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I just got a SA Range Officer. Do you think it's worth trying to use it as a base for a meusoc or no? No, because of the goofy rear sight options. Great gun regardless. I kinda figured I would have to replace the slide. I got the gun as a gift so it's like I'm starting at zero for all money added to it. trade it for a loaded to use as a base or just make it a solid fighting pistol. or buy a new slide I am going to make it a combat pistol, just was thinking out loud how much would need to be changed for a meusoc. |
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