Looking to get a really nice quality IWB holster for CCW for an HK P30

What material is the best to get?  I see a lot of kydex but also see leather.  Kydex I'd imagine is an easier material to maintain while leather may be more comfortable because it's soft?

What do you guys think of this one, it has a sweat guard & thinner kydex: P30 Nano

I think I do prefer/like how kydex won't collapse & allows for an easier/quicker re-holster.

What about belt loops vs just clip on to the waist band?  I can see how the belt loops offer better retention, but a clip on waist band can be even more low key/profile don't you think?

G-code incog for kydex
Milt sparks vmII or summer special for leather

P30...IMO deserves leather.  If you don't care about the finish on your gun getting worn, then get a kydex or hybrid style

I like Kydex holsters for IWB. I have a BladeTech UCH with a Kydex loop and a Raven Concealment light compatable holster with soft loops for my P30L. Both are very nice holsters. The UCH is much easier to conceal being that it sits lower in my waistband and has a slight cant to it. It's not as easy to draw from though. If the two different styles of belt loops, I find the soft loops with snaps much more convenient to take on/off. Personally I'm not of a fan of clip on holsters. I've used them in the past and would never get another...

BladeTech UCH-


Raven Concealment-

Comp-Tac Minotaur.
Kydex and leather hybrid with adjustable ride hight and cant.  The best of all worlds.

I'm a big hybrid holster fan.  I carry my P30 daily in an Ozark's hybrid and forget that it's there.  I like the Ozark because it's a bit thinner than some of the other hybrid holsters and its made with horse hide. I trimmed it up a bit and I love the way it fits.

ETA: the only downside that I see to my holster is that I can't adjust the retention.  Right now it's fine, but if the leather stretches out after a while, it could be nice to tighten up the tension a bit

I like the concept of the hybrids, but Buckshot556 brings up a good point about the finish getting worn with the kydex, the P30 is NOT cheap which is REALLY making me lean towards leather I think.  As it is already the slide release on mine is worn from the original owner using kydex to holster it.  

But then scgebo brings up the point of retention of the weapon once the leather gets worn & broken over time - some of these leathers are $150 and I would want something really nice within that price range I'm sure if I'm going to have it directly on my body.

What does "cant" mean I think I've even seen it mentioned as "FBI cant" - is this a slight tilt to the way the gun will sit IWB when attached to the belt? - if I am correct what benefits does this have over a regular, straight holster?

I think the soft loops & snaps make a lot of sense for easy donning on/off - but 22caliberKIDD why don't you like clip on holsters?

It seems the hybrid that Bullet showed is really nice looking all the way around.

I've seen the horse hide as an upgrade over cow hide on leather holsters, it supposed to repel sweat better than cow right?  Does it do anything else, is it softer etc?

Someone over on HKPro suggested Garrett Industries They offer a leather lined kydex - I think this is the best type of hybrid to go with!

Unfortunately, leather holsters also wear the finish of HK's (in a much smaller extent than Kydex, of course).
Moreover, leather holster IWB...in summertime... I don't know...

Milt Sparks VMII Horsehide w/elephant trim works perfectly with my P30.  Summer in TX isn't an issue at all with this combo.  It is so comfortable I forget I'm wearing it at times.

Those Milt Sparks are really nice.  Although I don't know how I feel about elephant skin...

It seems to hold it's shape really well?  Does it collapse at all when you remove the weapon from the holster?

A guy on hkpro said: I like all kydex with a leather backing. Helps keep a hot gun from burning you during a course/higher-volume shooting...especially nice for AIWB.

That sounds beneficial but someone suggested that leather sucks in hot weather (although of course someone contradicted him lol) and says leather is fine in Tx hot weather, although there isn't much humidity there so that would really make leather wear a lot more comfortable compared to a humid environment.  I'm in Ohio, it doesn't get super hot, although we do have some hot summer days here and it does get humid.

I'm thinking leather lined kydex with a leather backer unless someone can convince me to go with a different kind of backer?

The Garret Industries do look really nice - is anyone else doing a leather lined kydex IWB?

Leather only for HK's

FBI cant stands for Forward Body Incline. Standard FBI cant is 15º. Straight Drop would be 0º forward cant or rake. Straight Drop would make your firearm perfectly vertical on your hip. I prefer around a 18º- 25º cant (depending on holster) at 3:30 position. I have a shoulder impingement and straight drop is extremely uncomfortable for me to draw. The 18º- 25º FBI cant alleviates the discomfort for me.

Nice holster and entire set!

I have both for my HK45 and for my P7 PSP. I have a Milt Sparks VM2 and a SHTF which is a hybrid. In both cases the hybrid is more comfortable and easier to draw quickly. The leather holster does offer better retention though. The belt loops are more sturdy but they are also more bulky than the clips. I like both holsters but slightly prefer the kydex/leather hybrid.

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look at that double stitching!  Who makes all of those?

I was thinking of this Garret Industries appendix holster

But now after seeing that double stitching I want something fancy like that, even if it will be tucked in my pants and no one will see it.  I wonder if the leather lined kydex could also be wrapped with a thin leather jacket?

Is that one an appendix holster w/clip or belt loops like the rest of yours?

I'm thinking appendix carry is the style/comfort I'm looking for, but also interested in the small of back carry - does anyone do this type & how comfortable do you think it is?

Would anyone suggest a cant for appendix carry?  Or go 0* ?

This is what I use. Good holster. Has held up for a few years with me.

Does anyone have any input on this? I'm hoping to pull the trigger on a really nice holster soon.

Is there a company that would do a leather>thin kydex>leather combo and have it look like the holster Triage posted to?

Sorry, I missed this post.  It is stiff where it counts, in the mouth, you would seriously have to try to make it collapse.  However it's flexible everywhere else, which makes it conform to your body in a way that Kydex can't.  

And for anyone telling you it isn't humid in TX, they aren't spouting nonsense.  I'm tired of people from Georgia or other parts of the world extolling Texas heat as "dry heat".  There is more humidity in Dallas TX than Houston, Atlanta, or Columbus.  Just google the data, it's free to research.  And yes, it is common in Dallas to have 110F and 80% humidity.  And yes, I wear the Milt Sparks every single day in that weather without issue.  Years of usage and it looks brand new.

Humidity
Annual Average Humidity, #594
Dallas, TX 78.41%
Texas 76.95%
U.S. 77.52%


Humidity
Annual Average Humidity, #2073
Houston, TX 73.63%
Texas 76.95%
U.S. 77.52%


Humidity
Annual Average Humidity, #277
Atlanta, GA 76.12%
Georgia 75.76%
U.S. 77.52%

Humidity
Annual Average Humidity, #863
Columbus, OH 77.29%
Ohio 77.91%
U.S. 77.52%

If you practice drawing as much as you should it wont matter if it's leather, kydex or whale dick.

 

I carry appendix with a zero degree holster.  The loops are a tiny bit oversized for my belt, so I can shift it when seated or driving.

 

I don't want to know how you became experienced in the qualities of whale's shlongs.

I hear that whale (or the high end elephant) dick, ensures that you will have a holster which keeps a gun that you never practice with or really use, in new condition!  I'm giving a Brit Milah for a whale this sunday, so prices may go down!

 

TT Gunleather all day for IWB leather

I only carry in kydex. I live in TX and I sweat way too much. I hated cleaning rust off my guns from leather rigs. Kydex is quick to clean, doesn't absorb sweat, and looks good. Finish sminish ... if you're carrying a gun you're going to knock it around and it'll get worn. If you want a safe queen ... leave it in the safe.