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Posted: 6/4/2017 3:42:30 PM EDT
Thinking of getting one, but are they really worth it?
My sp01 is my favorite gun, and was worth every penny. So was my usp. But neither was a thousand dollar gun. Are they that special, or is it a pride of ownership thing? |
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Depends on whether or not it's important to you. Personally, the only Sig I would pay $1000 for would be the all brushed stainless P220
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No. I've owned a bunch of them and I'm not paying $1k for another. I just sold my last one and if I buy another it'll be a police trade in for $400-$500.
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No. I've owned a bunch of them and I'm not paying $1k for another. I just sold my last one and if I buy another it'll be a police trade in for $400-$500. |
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Your question is a good one, is A Kimber worth the kind of money they ask? Is the Wilson in my safe worth $3200? Is the Les Bear I bought worth $1800. The answer to all of them is no, but if it is what you like then pony up and buy them.
You only live once. It seems the Ruger 1911 makes all we pay for these nicer guns kind of silly. But, they sure do feel good. I like nice things, I love nice guns. |
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I paid 950 for my Legion 229 I would buy it again for that.
But the Legion club stuff is stupid the gun is very nice though. |
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I think the answer to your question depends greatly on what the relative value of $1000 is to you.
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Hell no. The legion is a $1000 gun and cant compare to a cz sp-01 shadow or a canjunized version . Those options are in the $900 range .
This is coming from a guy that owns 8 or 9 sigs and the most expensive that I have is the mk25 that I bought used for $700 |
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I paid $1218 delivered to my FFL for a Legion 226. Was it worth that money no, but it sure is a great shooter, and i like it alot. No i wouldn't pay that kind of money again. I am also 62 and at the end of my firearm buying days.
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i think most agree that sig is over priced and so is a lot of others for that matter. Is the mk25 worth the price tag, probably not and that is why i waited till it was on sale. That said it is my favorite gun bar none and it has never had a single malfunction and hits everything i aim it at. I could probably be very happy with my 500$ glock or the 250$ ruger all american, but now that i have the mk25 i cant see going back.
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Good question. Made me stop and think. I love my SIGs. They are each spectacular pistols.
So my knee jerk reaction was, yes, they're worth it. But then I stopped and thought about it and realized the only one I bought new was the P320. All the others were used, including a couple police turn ins. So I guess I don't think they're worth $1000 as I've never spent that much on one of them. But at the same time, I wouldn't take $1000 for the P229 I EDC (and bought for $450). Ultimately, the cost of ammo you put through it should greatly eclipse the cost of the pistol. So buy once, cry once if the SIG is what you like and want. |
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Here in California we can't get most handguns, and no guns at all that came out after 2012. You can get a P229 Enhanced Elite for $1035, and a P229 with night sights for $950. I really don't know if that is obscenely overpriced or not. So, are those fair prices or highway robbery?
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I think it's up to you. I mean there's not much I can't do with a cheap Glock that I can do with an expensive 1911. But I have plenty of custom 1911's because I just love them, haha. I also have a few Glock's just for a practical tool and I could care less if they get damaged or lost or whatever. I have a nice Sig P228 that I enjoy. Is it better than say a Glock 19? They both get the job done. But the Sig feels nicer in the hand.
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I paid 1k for my p226 Blackwater, came with (4) 20 rd mags. That gun imho is worth a grand. Every 5 years I take it out to qualify for my ccw and hit the 10 ring 42 out of 42 times. I don't like taking classes over again.
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It's a strange new day when HK pistols are the most affordable option.
And, IMO, HK makes the cream of the crop. I'd take a P30 over any 9mm SIG makes. And before the hysterics, I own SIG's too. |
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The first SIG I bought was a P239 in '00 or '01. It cost me $485 delivered, NIB. That was normal at the time; a P229 was around $600 back then. When Cohen came to town around '04, the prices jumped $200 overnight and they sent out an email to all dealers stating the same. All classic P-series guns were to be priced the same for their respective feature package. Standard SIGs went from $600 to $800 just like that, and many of us felt that QA/QC and small parts quality took a dive. None of those changes were welcomed.
In my mind, standard SIGs are $600 guns, but you sure as hell won't find them selling at that price NIB like you used to. My 226 SSE cost me around $1100. Was it worth it? Well, I wanted an all stainless 226, period, and I had the choice of the SSE or paying a comparable amount to find an older 226ST. I guess my other option was to not buy one at all, but I'm only here on Earth for a short time. With the SSE, they've added a decent number features that were not found (nor available) when the STs were around, so in that regard, my perspective is that the added value is there. It's a really well made gun, or at least my one example is. |
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buy a $500 Sig, if you really like it, then try out a $1k Sig. It won't be twice as good, but it will definitely be better. Like most things, you pay extra for incremental improvements.
A $60k Mercedes isn't 50% better than a $40k Ford, but its definitely better. Is that incremental improvement worth the extra money. |
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I have 14 of them, so don't ask me, you will get a biased opinion
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My first was a P229 with extra barrel. Traded a S&W for it.
Next was my M11A1. Sig CPO in excellent condition for $679. I can't afford retail priced Sigs. |
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Though I've never shot one, I hear the X5 is a great shooting gun.
They're also well north of $1K. The 226 Tac OP's with the 20 round mags has always caught my eye as well. |
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Absolutely in my experience.
Mine have all been extraordinary and I shoot the piss out of them. |
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A few years ago, I would've said no way!
But then I played with a sao legion and now I have to have one. |
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my 1st sig was 229 trade in for 425
my 2nd sig was used 220 with sig nite sites for 600 (bed stand gun) my 3rd was my 226 legion for 1125 are 1k sigs worth it? yes if you really enjoy sigs and want to add it to your collection. but if your looking for a solid sig any 500 dollar model is just as good. |
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I bought a $999 226 Legion SAO and would do it again. I didn't buy it for the kool aid I bought the pistol and I love it. I've owned a lot of handguns so I have a pretty good base of knowledge between models and brands. The car comparison is pretty good. Will a used 226 LEO trade in be a good gun that does the same thing functionally as a 1k legion? Sure, but if you want the better grips, better sights, incredible trigger and etc then you pay more. There was a comparison somewhere about buying a Legion (Sorry its simply a known 1K Sig) vs upgrading a 226 W. German and it came out to the Legion being cheaper I believe.
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IMO it all depends how much you shoot. To me owning 1 or 2 $1,000 handguns really isn't that much money because of how much I spend on ammo and training. I spend about $200 a month on ammo plus I shoot a lot of department ammo for free. I also shoot weekly.
If you are an occasional range shooter and don't take training super seriously (I'm not saying this in a demeaning way but be realistic about how much time and energy you put into firearms). To me the price of the gun is the smallest part of the investment so I don't mind buying a more expensive gun knowing I will be spending much more on it over the course of it's life span. All that being said, I own a few expensive guns like a Sig 226 tacops, a Colt 1911, and some expensive rifle builds, etc and I pretty much only shoot Glocks these days and pretty basic ARs. I bring the Sig out when training other officers that shoot DA/SA guns and that's about it. So long story short: I don't think sigs are better or worse, or worth more than Glocks, M&Ps, etc. But if that's what you prefer and if it gives you more confidence or a desire to shoot or train more for whatever reason than it is worth the price tag. When it comes to ARs I always go with the classic, "you don't need a $3,000 rifle, you need a $700 rifle and $2,300 worth of training." However, you are not wrong for buying an expensive gun as long as you still have your training money as well. Buy what you like. Train hard. |
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My last 3 Sigs were all SAS models and had an MSRP over a $1000 each. I think I paid as much as $775 for one of them and to me it is worth that much. If the best price I could find on any one of them was MSRP I'd still be shopping around or own something else. The three guns were P220 Compact SAS, P239 SAS and P227 SAS of which I still own the first two. At $700-$800 I think they are great guns.
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If they ever stop selling the metal guns and go all in on the poly frame guns, they will be worth every penny, however in regards to what I paid for my 220, 226 & 239 they are worth every penny. However I kinda have a couple rules when it comes to purchasing items. 1. The biblical commandment, thou shall not covet, so if I find myself coveting, I just solve that problem by buying the darn thing. Covet problem solved. 2. After I buy something, I don't give it a second thought on what I payed for it, in regards to possible paying more than I'm comfortable in spending. That doesn't count if I got something for a deal, then I will routinely give myself props.
If I look at a at say $1,000 gun, in my opinion its worth it comparison to say an $800 tablet or $2,500 laptop that can crap out after 16 months or when the warranty wears out. Its a gun that you may depend your life to, damn streight its worth every penny I paid for it. Also worth every penny when I'm going to have countless range sessions with a pistol that feels as if it was made for my hand, and it is going to flawlessly run about $750 to $1000 in ammo through it annually without a hint of a failure. Also add that it will most likely perform perfect bullet casing ejection that damn near lands in the same spot on the ground. In regards to my sig's, they do all that. Not a sig only fanboy as I have other guns from various manufactures as most ARF.com's but I do like my P series and the only person that would have an issue how much I paid for them would be my wife. |
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I've carried an issued P220 for the last 12 years, and choose to carry a P229 when off the clock. My impression of Sig Sauer P Series pistols is that they are very well built, use quality materials, are quite accurate, have good triggers, have a strong following among LE/Military worldwide, and they are stone cold reliable. In modern times, there are pistols out there that are equally reliable, have good triggers, are accurate, are widely accepted among LE/Military, are lighter, and cost about half as much.
Most of those pistols, while functionally excellent, are made of plastic and are pumped out by their manufacturers in the bazillions. Nothing wrong with that, as each new generation decides what the next classic is going to be. For my generation, selecting a Sig Sauer P Series, will always be an indication of a demanding consumer, unwilling to cut corners on a tool designed to protect them. For as much as some complain of the weight, I find it comforting. The lockup on my P229 is like that of a bank vault. The simplicity of controls makes it a no-nonsense, all business pistol. The all metal components (not counting the grips), are all machined exceptionally, and fit together like perfection. When I hold my Sig Sauer, I feel a confidence in knowing that I am protected by the same pistol that has been trusted to protect the President of the United States. I know that not only my little agency, but others to include the Secret Service, the Federal Air Marshals, the United States Coast Guard, the United States Navy Seals, and the Texas Department of Public Safety have trusted to carry out their duties. For as much as times may bring upon us new gear that is wildly popular, it doesn't change the fact that older gear is still worth having. I could see myself in a few more years, armed with an M4 Carbine and my P229, being looked upon by younger guys in the same way that I've always looked at the older generation armed with M1 Garands and 1911 pistols. Are the Sig pistols worth a grand?... To some of us they are. |
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I've carried an issued P220 for the last 12 years, and choose to carry a P229 when off the clock. My impression of Sig Sauer P Series pistols is that they are very well built, use quality materials, are quite accurate, have good triggers, have a strong following among LE/Military worldwide, and they are stone cold reliable. In modern times, there are pistols out there that are equally reliable, have good triggers, are accurate, are widely accepted among LE/Military, are lighter, and cost about half as much. Most of those pistols, while functionally excellent, are made of plastic and are pumped out by their manufacturers in the bazillions. Nothing wrong with that, as each new generation decides what the next classic is going to be. For my generation, selecting a Sig Sauer P Series, will always be an indication of a demanding consumer, unwilling to cut corners on a tool designed to protect them. For as much as some complain of the weight, I find it comforting. The lockup on my P229 is like that of a bank vault. The simplicity of controls makes it a no-nonsense, all business pistol. The all metal components (not counting the grips), are all machined exceptionally, and fit together like perfection. When I hold my Sig Sauer, I feel a confidence in knowing that I am protected by the same pistol that has been trusted to protect the President of the United States. I know that not only my little agency, but others to include the Secret Service, the Federal Air Marshals, the United States Coast Guard, the United States Navy Seals, and the Texas Department of Public Safety have trusted to carry out their duties. For as much as times may bring upon us new gear that is wildly popular, it doesn't change the fact that older gear is still worth having. I could see myself in a few more years, armed with an M4 Carbine and my P229, being looked upon by younger guys in the same way that I've always looked at the older generation armed with M1 Garands and 1911 pistols. Are the Sig pistols worth a grand?... To some of us they are. View Quote |
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The one I tried was well worth it. Significant improvement over the ones < $1k
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Mine is, it's the Lipsey's DA/SA reverse two tone. They're rare, and I wanted it, it is a low volume special edition. |
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I bought my P239 used. Like you, I did not want to pay near $1000. I got my P224 when they were discontinued, too. No where near $1000.
Would I spend $1k for a pistol? Yes, and I have...1911, PPK .32acp from 1939, Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless from 1917...so far. But, the P239 is fan-damn-tastic!! Would never know it was used previously. That says lots about Sig quality! |
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I buy classic P-series Sigs- 220s, 226s, 229s- cheap. I don't buy them at full price or even close to full price. They all go in for the SSP, AEP, and SRT.
Are they worth $1000 even though I don't come close to paying $1000 for them? I have no doubt that if I do my part, they will do theirs, and if us doing our respective parts means the people I love get to see me again, I guess they're priceless. |
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I buy what I like.
I like nice things and after I buy them, I don't worry about what I paid. Compared to houses, cars, etc, the gun hobby is cheap. |
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I buy what I like. I like nice things and after I buy them, I don't worry about what I paid. Compared to houses, cars, etc, the gun hobby is cheap. View Quote I found a gunstore that has a nice selection of them on display. I remembering looking at the rows of sigs in the glass cabinet under bright lights and thought "those are beautiful" |
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If I had to outfit a police department or army they'd get Glocks. But Sigs are kind of neat. I found a gunstore that has a nice selection of them on display. I remembering looking at the rows of sigs in the glass cabinet under bright lights and thought "those are beautiful" View Quote I agree- SIGs are just great-looking, well built handguns. I have my share of Glocks and HKs, but there just something about a nice SIG and I love my P226s4, P220R AND P229 mid-90's factory two-tone in .40. Nothing else comes close except some of those gorgeous but useless-to-me $3k+ 1911s. |
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I've owned Glocks, Walthers, Springfields, Berettas, Kimbers, H&Ks, Rugers, SIGs, Jerichos, etc. I decided that my SIG 226 EE (just over $1,000) was exactly what I wanted.
Sometimes to get exactly what you want you have to pay $1,000+; sometimes to get exactly what you want you can pay considerably less. It all depends on how precious $1,000 is to you personally and what it is you want in a pistol. |
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every time I have "customized" a gun, it has cost me a ton, I was never satisfied with the end product and it lost a lot of resale value. Now I buy them new exactly how I want them from the factory. It was an expensive lesson (also with cars).
Most of the guns I have now are all over 1K except my clocks but I am not buying any more of those. |
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I'm happy with my 375 dollar sp2022.
Don't know if I would pay more than 800 for a handgun though. |
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Most of my handguns were in the 500-750 range and a bunch were more like 350. I have $ 900 sig 1911 and a $ 1500 10mm 220. They're nice, I could certainly live without them. My $ 350 used 45 smith and Wesson is completely adequate
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I traded a stock SA Mil Spec 1911 for my West German 220, Value on the 1911, aprox $500
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