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Posted: 2/15/2014 8:11:25 PM EDT
I looked at the Google discussions, and saw how not carrying made the aching nerve disappear. Mine did not after switching from OWB G34 with Surefire light, to pocket carry of an LCP.
6 months ago, after carrying OWB G34 my hip for 3 years, it started aching. I figured I slept wrong at first. After 2 months of the dull ache, I figured it was my gun. I drive a lot with my gun on my hip. I switched to my G19 with no light. Still OWB. Still ache. 3 months ago, I switched to an LCP in my pocket. No improvement after 3 months. I flew to back to Oregon Monday and carried my G19 from my office, and for the first 3 days the pain disappeared all together. A miracle!! Friday it came back, and today it was a lot worse. I've tried stretching a little through the whole process, but not any Yoga type serious stretching. I want to carry my G34 with Surefire all the time. I'm 45 and 285lbs. I'm way overweight. Chiropractor? Physical Therapy? Anyone else get this? Yes, a diet is in order also. |
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What belt are you using? It's possible that your belt could be failing and not providing enough support.
I would definitely suggest getting yourself in shape, but another option to try would be suspenders? What holster are you using? Options for a wider footprint on the belt loops to distribute weight better? |
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What belt are you using? It's possible that your belt could be failing and not providing enough support. I would definitely suggest getting yourself in shape, but another option to try would be suspenders? What holster are you using? Options for a wider footprint on the belt loops to distribute weight better? View Quote Never thought of the belt. I am using a web belt. It's from Propper, and it's not flimsy. That may be an issue, and it's a variable I haven't tried. I'll try a rigid leather belt for sure after reading your post. I could even try my CM Speed that I use for 3 gun. Holster is a DSG type from RKBA. I have several friends that have them with no issues, and have carried with Milt Sparks, and Mitch Rosin both IWB in the past. Getting in shape needs to be job 1 for many reasons! |
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Never thought of the belt. I am using a web belt. It's from Propper, and it's not flimsy. That may be an issue, and it's a variable I haven't tried. I'll try a rigid leather belt for sure after reading your post. I could even try my CM Speed that I use for 3 gun. Holster is a DSG type from RKBA. I have several friends that have them with no issues, and have carried with Milt Sparks, and Mitch Rosin both IWB in the past. Getting in shape needs to be job 1 for many reasons! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What belt are you using? It's possible that your belt could be failing and not providing enough support. I would definitely suggest getting yourself in shape, but another option to try would be suspenders? What holster are you using? Options for a wider footprint on the belt loops to distribute weight better? Never thought of the belt. I am using a web belt. It's from Propper, and it's not flimsy. That may be an issue, and it's a variable I haven't tried. I'll try a rigid leather belt for sure after reading your post. I could even try my CM Speed that I use for 3 gun. Holster is a DSG type from RKBA. I have several friends that have them with no issues, and have carried with Milt Sparks, and Mitch Rosin both IWB in the past. Getting in shape needs to be job 1 for many reasons! This will help quite a bit. |
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OP, here is a thread about a guy with sacroliac (sp?) pain. About 1/3 down the first page I posted several stretches that I use. I have lost about 5-6 weeks in the last year to back pain so intense I could barely walk.
Try some of these stretches and exercises. There's another exercise: position yourself on all fours (yoga 'table' position) and try to pull your navel to your spine. Hold 30 seconds, then relax. This will build the muscles in your "pelvic girdle" area, and strengthen your back. Best of luck to you. |
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OP, here is a thread about a guy with sacroliac (sp?) pain. About 1/3 down the first page I posted several stretches that I use. I have lost about 5-6 weeks in the last year to back pain so intense I could barely walk. Try some of these stretches and exercises. There's another exercise: position yourself on all fours (yoga 'table' position) and try to pull your navel to your spine. Hold 30 seconds, then relax. This will build the muscles in your "pelvic girdle" area, and strengthen your back. Best of luck to you. View Quote I'll try them. Subscribed to the thread you linked. Will report progress. |
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Sciatica
In my experience losing weight is your best option. |
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Deadlift more it will fix your back trust me.
Doctors and chiropractors want you to come to them because they say they can help you. All they want is to get that paycheck I don't care what you say they will try to get you to do everything that will make your back worse. I knew two friends that both suffered from slipped discs in their back and had excruciating pain. Nothing any of the chiropractors they went to benefit them at all. So both of those friends started dead lifting and in fact there back was fixed. You wouldn't think working your back would help but think of it this way you probably don't work your back out enough and it causes it to have problems being weak and all. We are humans, we were designed to pick things up and put them back down. You don't have to lift heavy but just make sure you were doing enough weight that is actually working you out. It takes some time but I assure you it will work If you go to a chiropractor they are going to say don't do that. It's obvious they will do that so you keep coming back I can't stress that enough. Both of my friends had severe back pain for probably close to two years before they started the deadlift routine and since them both of them have been completely fixed. Sorry for the horrible punctuation I'm typing this on my phone. |
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You post like I do.
With a space between each sentence. I hear ya on the chiro thing. I've used them in the past and they have their role for certain things. I was wondering if anyone had the issue I have that didn't go away after dis-continuing carrying a gun on the hip. I don't want this to turn into a "chiropractors" suck thread though. |
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https://www.google.com/search?q=foam+roller+exercises&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
Read up on this technique. Helps me quite a bit. |
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Stretches and exercises can be dependent on your specific condition (anterior vs posterior disc protrusion for instance). Get a real evaluation and PT referral. They'll set you up with stretches specific to your condition as well as a weight loss and core strengthening program.
People who want to offer you more specific medical advice without knowing a whole lot more about your condition are over-generalizing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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What a lot of people call "hip pain" is actually back/sciatica pain. If when you say hip you are referring to your backside or where your hip bone is, that isn't hip pain. Pain in the hip joint is more in your groin.
My recommendation would be to see a doc for a referral to a good physical therapist combined with some home exercises and short term NSAID therapy. Clearly this is bothering you a lot and isn't just going away, see your doctor, man. |
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Deadlift more it will fix your back trust me. Doctors and chiropractors want you to come to them because they say they can help you. All they want is to get that paycheck I don't care what you say they will try to get you to do everything that will make your back worse. <snip> View Quote First of all deadlifting? Really? You know nothing about his medical condition and you are going to recommend the weight lifting exercise that is probably responsible for more back injuries than any other exercise. And secondly, I am a doctor. I absolutely 100% want to get all my patients better. That kind of asinine, ignorant remark is so on its face blatantly false, I don't know where to begin. I primarily treat chronic conditions like hypertension, diabetes, and high cholesterol. I also see acute issues like sinus infections and the flu. I don't tell them to do things to make those acute issues worse just to make a "paycheck." No different with acute injuries like back or shoulder pain. Funny thing is, if as a doctor, you tend to have no success in getting people any better, they typically stop coming to you. Much less if you make them worse. If I just wanted a paycheck, I would have become an investment banker. Less schooling. More time off. |
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I have the same thing and for me, it was a bulged L4-L5 disk. Had a cortisone shot (not sure if it did anything) and went to PT who beat the hell out of me. They had one Nautilus machine that strapped your whole body into the machine and the only muscles you could use were your lower back. Holy hell was that a new level of pain...but it did work.
If you're looking for something to do at home, get a roman chair. It'll be painful at first but it does help as your back muscles strengthen. |
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have you considered a belly band?
rather than carry it on your hip? it is a little harder to get to. but you wouldn't have the weight on your side. also suspenders. I hear that helps take the weight off the belt/pants. honestly I haven't seen any in quite some time, but my father used to wear some clip on types. basically had large clips on the ends to pinch onto the belt or pants. |
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I injured my SI joint several months ago in a wreck.
If you can get physical therapy, you should. Several exercises they've shown me are very helpful. One in particular: Get a basketball,soccer ball, foam roller etc. Lie on your back with your knees pulled up and place the ball between your knees. Squeeze the ball and hold it for 5 seconds. Repeat 5 times. Listen/feel for a popping/crackling sound. I couldn't lift my knee while sitting up without pain. This cleared that right up. |
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I came here to suggest bigger pants. I would seek a doctor given your description of lasting pain. Hopefully its as simple as a little strength training, stretching and weight loss.
When I first started carrying IWB, I experienced some hip and back pain. I switched to pants one size larger and everything got better. So if anyone else is having back pain related to IWB carry, bigger pants may help. |
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This may sound stupid but the question is do you carry a wallet in the back pocket? If so move it to a front pocket can make a world of difference.
Regarding lifting and fitness it can help a lot of people but is not a total solution for all cases. Once you have chronic back problems it is never fixed( wether you have surgery or not!) it is just managed |
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Sorry you are having issues, coctailer. Nerve pain is no fun.
Get well soon! |
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SFW
This is a starting point for self-treating your low back/hip/nerve SI joint pain or limitations. Kelly Starrett is a doctor of physical therapy who has made waves with his mobility project: "All human beings should be able to perform basic maintenance on themselves." He has a huge, free, video series dedicated to helping people unf*ck their bodies. The way you carry/sit/walk/live likely loads the hip on a single axis (right/left, forward/back). You've probably been over-extended for a long time and making one side of your body work harder to stabilize and remain neutral. Your psoas is probably extra short on your carry side, which pulls the SI joint and lumbar spine to one side and also into an anterior tilt/over-extension. "Beer Belly" syndrome will also cause this. Test: how long can you hang out in the bottom of an air squat (refer to the video for a good demo)? What starts to hurt first? 10 minutes is your goal. |
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I have what's probably sciatica. The foam roller exercises have really helped me. I've found a tennis ball also helps. I stand with my back to a wall. I put the ball wherever the "hot spot" is on my butt. I lean into the ball, moving around. OMG, can it hurt, but it helps a lot.
Sometimes in the morning it hurts BAD when I lift my legs over the side of the tub to take my shower. Because of this, I will only carry appendix, not in back. |
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I had a similar problem with my back and hip . Stopped wearing my wallet in my back pocket and never had the problem again . Takes a little time but might be worth a try. Good luck !
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I had a similar problem with my back and hip . Stopped wearing my wallet in my back pocket and never had the problem again . Takes a little time but might be worth a try. Good luck ! View Quote I carry my wallet in my front pocket for just this reason. And so chicks can check out my arse. I'm wearing a good quality leather belt and back to having the G19 on my hip OWB. Will report back in a few days if this helps. I am also hitting the gym. |
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Even a wallet in your back pocket ca put pressure on the sciatic nerve and cause pain in the hip.
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I carry my wallet in my front pocket for just this reason. And so chicks can check out my arse. I'm wearing a good quality leather belt and back to having the G19 on my hip OWB. Will report back in a few days if this helps. I am also hitting the gym. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had a similar problem with my back and hip . Stopped wearing my wallet in my back pocket and never had the problem again . Takes a little time but might be worth a try. Good luck ! I carry my wallet in my front pocket for just this reason. And so chicks can check out my arse. I'm wearing a good quality leather belt and back to having the G19 on my hip OWB. Will report back in a few days if this helps. I am also hitting the gym. Good deal. Put some time into stretching as well as a little research on facia muscles. |
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Sciatica? If that is your cause, you're in for a lifetime of pain management.
Chiropractor, physical therapy, pills... Surgery. Just wait until you can only sleep for 15 minutes at a time, for a total of 2-3 hours a night, severe liver damage, depression, and seriously considering amputating your own leg. Eventually, no task will be easy. Over the last 7mo, I've taken over 3k ibuprofen. Recieving minor, temporary relief. Get serious and explore every option now. |
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I am 33 now, but when I was 21 herniated a disc in a rock climbing fall. Dealt with the pain for two years and finally had surgery when I was 23. Mostly completely pain free now, I def had the sciatica pain. My right leg was always numb and tingly and I couldn't feel a couple toes there for about a year. See a doctor and get some help for sure, back pain is nothing to mess around with.
And don't deadlift |
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One of these:
http://www.staples.com/DMI-7-inch-x-19-inch-Large-Foam-Cervical-Roll-Blue/product_276719?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:276719&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=276719&KPID=276719 I also hang from my pull up bar and stretch my lower back. |
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In addition to getting into better shape, also be mindful of your posture. If you sit alot then maybe it's your psoas muscle that is bothering you. Also, If you have weak abs that will many times lead to back pain. I'm speaking from experience.....
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