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Third picture Is that rust inside the muzzle brake of that weapon?
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Yes to the VSS.
From the vids and pics it appears that lots of VSS's are carried in conjunction with a SVD / bolt gun |
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Interesting to see non issued gear mixed in and the use of a standard sling as a single point.
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So is there actually active fighting right now or are they still just "occupying"? I mean the Russian soldiers by the way not the Euro-Maidan.
Please stay on topic, guns and gear. GD, general discussion has plenty of threads on the politics. Thanks dryflash3
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That blue in the above pic is urban reed pattern, which has been around since the Chechnyan conflict. Nice to see underfolders with wood still in use, and I've never seen a torniquet wrapped around a poly folder before. http://i60.tinypic.com/2427ds0.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/2608ttt.jpg Good closeup of the muzzle brake ports. http://i58.tinypic.com/awz4hf.jpg View Quote No, it's based on the M81 pattern, not the Reed pattern. That particular MVS jacket was designed around 2008, with several changes being made since then. More info here: http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Ukraine ETA: Reed pattern here: http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00080.php |
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Where is russia's supper gun, the AEK 971? Its gonna change the world
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Notice the rail system on the bottom of that one PKM above?
I'd wouldn't be surprised if an AEK-971 makes an appearance, but I'd be really surprised if we see the first AK-12 out there |
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol View Quote maybe.....some of the guys haven't cleaned their dirty clothes so they needed to grab their extra uniform or....they are bad ass like that, they don't care |
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maybe.....some of the guys haven't cleaned their dirty clothes so they needed to grab their extra uniform or....they are bad ass like that, they don't care View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol maybe.....some of the guys haven't cleaned their dirty clothes so they needed to grab their extra uniform or....they are bad ass like that, they don't care Or just shows disorganization. Looks more like a militia rather than a uniformed military. But hey as long as they get their mission done, whatever that may be, then i guess who cares lol |
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Or just shows disorganization. Looks more like a militia rather than a uniformed military. But hey as long as they get their mission done, whatever that may be, then i guess who cares lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol maybe.....some of the guys haven't cleaned their dirty clothes so they needed to grab their extra uniform or....they are bad ass like that, they don't care Or just shows disorganization. Looks more like a militia rather than a uniformed military. But hey as long as they get their mission done, whatever that may be, then i guess who cares lol From the all the images and videos I've seen of Russian military guys doing drills or actual engagements, they were never uniform on their clothing. The only exception is the Alpha group. I do like how they are mismatched though, it is more interesting to see different equipment all in one setting. Also, I guess the guys will need to stay really close to each other, I would think friendly fire might be a problem if they are far apart. |
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol View Quote the blue guys are Ukrainian berkut defectors |
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From the all the images and videos I've seen of Russian military guys doing drills or actual engagements, they were never uniform on their clothing. The only exception is the Alpha group. I do like how they are mismatched though, it is more interesting to see different equipment all in one setting. Also, I guess the guys will need to stay really close to each other, I would think friendly fire might be a problem if they are far apart. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol maybe.....some of the guys haven't cleaned their dirty clothes so they needed to grab their extra uniform or....they are bad ass like that, they don't care Or just shows disorganization. Looks more like a militia rather than a uniformed military. But hey as long as they get their mission done, whatever that may be, then i guess who cares lol From the all the images and videos I've seen of Russian military guys doing drills or actual engagements, they were never uniform on their clothing. The only exception is the Alpha group. I do like how they are mismatched though, it is more interesting to see different equipment all in one setting. Also, I guess the guys will need to stay really close to each other, I would think friendly fire might be a problem if they are far apart. Exactly, like the random dude with the rainbow colored camo pants. He looks like he could be on anyones team lol |
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the blue guys are Ukrainian berkut defectors View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol the blue guys are Ukrainian berkut defectors Makes sense, but i still dont understand the whole blue thing. |
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Exactly, like the random dude with the rainbow colored camo pants. He looks like he could be on anyones team lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol maybe.....some of the guys haven't cleaned their dirty clothes so they needed to grab their extra uniform or....they are bad ass like that, they don't care Or just shows disorganization. Looks more like a militia rather than a uniformed military. But hey as long as they get their mission done, whatever that may be, then i guess who cares lol From the all the images and videos I've seen of Russian military guys doing drills or actual engagements, they were never uniform on their clothing. The only exception is the Alpha group. I do like how they are mismatched though, it is more interesting to see different equipment all in one setting. Also, I guess the guys will need to stay really close to each other, I would think friendly fire might be a problem if they are far apart. Exactly, like the random dude with the rainbow colored camo pants. He looks like he could be on anyones team lol The rainbow pants??? I don't see it..... Are you guys talking about the Swiss Alpine camo? Its got funny colors, but its still ... 'legit' |
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Makes sense, but i still dont understand the whole blue thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol the blue guys are Ukrainian berkut defectors Makes sense, but i still dont understand the whole blue thing. My understanding is that the Berkut are specialized police forces, not military. Might explain the blue. But I'll admit ignorance when it comes to Russian et al. gear. |
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My understanding is that the Berkut are specialized police forces, not military. Might explain the blue. But I'll admit ignorance when it comes to Russian et al. gear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand why they dont have an uniformity. Are there different branches we are looking at because i dont undestand the Blue camo, some guy where FDE, most other guys wearing green, some dickhead wearing rainbow colored camo pants etc etc. Makes no sense to me lol the blue guys are Ukrainian berkut defectors Makes sense, but i still dont understand the whole blue thing. My understanding is that the Berkut are specialized police forces, not military. Might explain the blue. But I'll admit ignorance when it comes to Russian et al. gear. Yeah i know they are police. But blue camo just seems pointless to me. Might as well just wear plain blue |
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What's with all the Balaclavas? Just a cool guy thing or is it really that cold there?
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Personally, I think the overall look of the green camo that seems to be the most common in these pics, is simply badass. Those guys just look tough in that gear.
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View Quote The guy on the right looks like his gear was issued yesterday, except the rifle. |
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Why are the rifles so bare boned? Can't the Russian military afford Tapco? <a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1259856__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Official_HARAAM_AK_Picture_thread_.html&page=1" target="_blank">]http://i40.tinypic.com/2u9olsm.jpg]</a> View Quote Because basic and simple is best, tried and true |
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Because basic and simple is best, tried and true View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why are the rifles so bare boned? Can't the Russian military afford Tapco? <a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1259856__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Official_HARAAM_AK_Picture_thread_.html&page=1" target="_blank">]http://i40.tinypic.com/2u9olsm.jpg]</a> Because basic and simple is best, tried and true Haha that was definitely a joke... he wasn't seriously saying that Russia needs tapco on their rifles Its sad that that comment can actually be taken seriously tho... there are way too many ppl out there that think that those douched up rifles are sweet. Anyone know if this is actually magpul or if they are bootlegging AFG's over there? |
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Haha that was definitely a joke... he wasn't seriously saying that Russia needs tapco on their rifles Its sad that that comment can actually be taken seriously tho... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why are the rifles so bare boned? Can't the Russian military afford Tapco? <a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1259856__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Official_HARAAM_AK_Picture_thread_.html&page=1" target="_blank">]http://i40.tinypic.com/2u9olsm.jpg]</a> Because basic and simple is best, tried and true Haha that was definitely a joke... he wasn't seriously saying that Russia needs tapco on their rifles Its sad that that comment can actually be taken seriously tho... you would be suprised |
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View Quote LOL. Magpul in the house! |
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Haha that was definitely a joke... he wasn't seriously saying that Russia needs tapco on their rifles Its sad that that comment can actually be taken seriously tho... there are way too many ppl out there that think that those douched up rifles are sweet. Anyone know if this is actually magpul or if they are bootlegging AFG's over there? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why are the rifles so bare boned? Can't the Russian military afford Tapco? <a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1259856__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Official_HARAAM_AK_Picture_thread_.html&page=1" target="_blank">]http://i40.tinypic.com/2u9olsm.jpg]</a> Because basic and simple is best, tried and true Haha that was definitely a joke... he wasn't seriously saying that Russia needs tapco on their rifles Its sad that that comment can actually be taken seriously tho... there are way too many ppl out there that think that those douched up rifles are sweet. Anyone know if this is actually magpul or if they are bootlegging AFG's over there? Look in the Historical AK picture thread and you will see a ton of Magpul gear on Russian AK's |
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A CNN reporter asked one of those unmarked soilders where he was from. He said Russia. When she pressed more he walked away. It really looked like he wasnt suppose to say that.
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Thanks for the pics Fin. Now that I got a good look at the gear and weapons I think I see what's going on over there. The Berkut guy with the AKM, shit, he could be holding my AKM. Wood '74 style furniture, slant brake(no rust on mine), stamped receiver 7.62. Just like mine but I bet his has a third pin.
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The Russians are looking more modernized. New digital flora uniforms, Sposn vests, 2 different styles of helmets, and new body armor.
I miss the old style vest which was way too big for the average person and the motorcycle style helmets like the Sphera. Also, did they run out of the blue izolenta tape? |
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The Russians are looking more modernized. New digital flora uniforms, Sposn vests, 2 different styles of helmets, and new body armor. I miss the old style vest which was way too big for the average person and the motorcycle style helmets like the Sphera. Also, did they run out of the blue izolenta tape? View Quote Makes you wonder how we would fare in a conflict against a modern nation. A good friend of mine who is with the 101st, has stated that in their officer level training sessions, an opponent with "modern" capability would create a unique set of challenges as compared to our current training tempo. He commands a heavy weapons unit, and they have reverted back to training against armor and columns vs current afghan/Iraq style mission sets. |
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