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Posted: 8/20/2008 7:16:05 PM EDT

NOTE::: the "circle 10" Bulgarian marks on these NEW (made in bulgaria) AK mags!!!!

Info from COPES DIST. and 2 other sources

UPDATE::::>>>> "Bulgaria bought the tooling to make them... Bulgarian copies of the Chinese 75rd drum for commercial sale here in the US"

UPDATE::: Called copes, they confirmed they got in 5000 of these babies, AND said that several other dist. is getting these drums. Asked about price dropping on these, and he said they were already selling A LOT of them, but certainly DID admit that due to more coming in country, AND other places (he didnt name the other Distrs.) getting them, that PRICE WOULD "almost certainly drop at some point!!!!!"

<Edited..........dpmmn>

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:21:55 PM EDT

[#1]

You guys in free states should consider selling your chinese preban mags to us in ban states and buy brand new ones. Just a thought.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:28:36 PM EDT

[#2]

Well, if the price is right, that's nice.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:28:38 PM EDT

[#3]

Where and when can we find these? I need a few for my AES.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:28:45 PM EDT

[#4]

Please keep us informed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:30:47 PM EDT

[#5]

ost

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:32:03 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Please keep us informed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

supposedly, those pictures are from COPES DIST. but they are not for sale "YET"
nor is the price known "YET"

Time to pop the cork on something and get snickered

"Celebrate good times com' on!! ....Were gonna celebrate now......."

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:33:04 PM EDT

[#7]

Was there an email that I missed?

I feel left out.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:34:18 PM EDT

[#8]

I've been considering an AK, what round is that drum mag designed for? I'd like to go 7.62x39 because it's supper cheap, but if the good stuff like this mag is for another round, please let me know.

Thanks,
Wes

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:35:08 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Was there an email that I missed?

I feel left out.

its one of those "breaking news" sorts of deals.

imagine Knob Creek in 2 months, there will be a PISSLOAD OF THESE BABIES!!!!!!!!!!

ohhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:36:30 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
I've been considering an AK, what round is that drum mag designed for? I'd like to go 7.62x39 because it's supper cheap, but if the good stuff like this mag is for another round, please let me know.

Thanks,
Wes

i at LEAST do know for certain they are 75 ROUND 7.62 X 39 drums, made in Bulgaria on Chinese machinery/stamps

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:37:51 PM EDT

[#11]

tagarooni

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:39:08 PM EDT

[#12]

you can pick up "real" Chinese 75rd drums for the same price, yes? ...

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:39:50 PM EDT

[#13]

Sweet.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:41:16 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
you can pick up "real" Chinese 75rd drums for the same price, yes? ...

Duuuuude,, PRICE IS UNKNOWN on these as of yet, soooooooo

could be $100 each, or less, WHO KNOWS man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think man, with an unlimited supply COMING from Bulgaria, the price would HAVE to be on the "damn cheaper than current chinese drum prices"

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:41:16 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
tagarooni

A big +1 on that!!

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:47:12 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
you can pick up "real" Chinese 75rd drums for the same price, yes? ...

Duuuuude,, PRICE IS UNKNOWN on these as of yet, soooooooo

could be $100 each, or less, WHO KNOWS man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think man, with an unlimited supply COMING from Bulgaria, the price would HAVE to be on the "damn cheaper than current chinese drum prices"

I know price is a Rumor, but damnit man WHATIF!!!!

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:48:34 PM EDT

[#17]

They are $159.99 - not too far from the price of an actual pre-ban Chinese drum.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:49:24 PM EDT

[#18]

Cope's is taking pre-orders on these. Price is $159.99.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:49:43 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

I know price is a Rumor, but damnit man WHATIF!!!!

REGARDLESS of price, it WILL do one thing, SLAM DOWN the price on ALL existing "chinese" drum mags....period

with a constant supply steaming here from Bulgaria......its a NO BRAINER!!!!!

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:52:42 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Cope's is taking pre-orders on these. Price is $159.99.

Hmmm, surely that price TOO will drop once enough crapload of these drums hit the market.

after the "holy crap" factor wears off and they sell a few 1000 of em, theyll all the sudden have a price drop.

same as everything, the "First ones" always most expensive.

some OTHER DIST. will get them, and price will SURE AS HELL drop.

hehehe

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:56:47 PM EDT

[#21]

With there being an abundance of them I would imagine give it time and they will be around for 100-120.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:57:54 PM EDT

[#22]

Welcome to last week.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:59:21 PM EDT

[#23]

Iv'e got a Chinese one from 20 years ago. Fired it for the first time last week. Thing kicked ass.

Posted: 8/20/2008 7:59:49 PM EDT

[#24]

$159? I can't imagine it costs that much to manufacture. I'll wait a little bit for prices to come down, I think. That's almost a case of ammo.

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:02:05 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
$159? I can't imagine it costs that much to manufacture. I'll wait a little bit for prices to come down, I think. That's almost a case of ammo.

its VERY unlikely copes has ANY exclusive rights on these drums from Bulgaria, for sure

2 more distributors get ahold of them, and BOOM, instant price drop.

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:03:11 PM EDT

[#26]

TAG for later

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:17:31 PM EDT

[#27]

They are Bulgarian

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:22:27 PM EDT

[#28]

Holy shiza, can we say $80 drums? Put me down for 5 sum1 plz

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:26:46 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
They are Bulgarian

Yah, bulgaria makes the best AK mags.

i changed the original post

exactly the same design and operation as the Chinese drums are

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:27:59 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
$159? I can't imagine it costs that much to manufacture. I'll wait a little bit for prices to come down, I think. That's almost a case of ammo.

its VERY unlikely copes has ANY exclusive rights on these drums from Bulgaria, for sure

2 more distributors get ahold of them, and BOOM, instant price drop.

Not if K-Var is the distributor and K-Var has the Market when it comes to Bulgarian made products

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:29:21 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
you can pick up "real" Chinese 75rd drums for the same price, yes? ...

Duuuuude,, PRICE IS UNKNOWN on these as of yet, soooooooo

could be $100 each, or less, WHO KNOWS man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think man, with an unlimited supply COMING from Bulgaria, the price would HAVE to be on the "damn cheaper than current chinese drum prices"

Easy on the redbulls there surfer. Price from copes is $159.99.

And, quoted from Copes over on TOS.

There will be a limited supply of these drums.. so get your pre-order in today.

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:29:48 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Holy shiza, can we say $80 drums? Put me down for 5 sum1 plz

Try doubling that

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:38:02 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Holy shiza, can we say $80 drums? Put me down for 5 sum1 plz

Try doubling that

theres NO WAY price will stay at that, regardless, the price will drop.

same way price drops on 40rd Bulgarian mags about every 2 years or so, then goes up again as if the mags are "drying up " heheheheh

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:38:19 PM EDT

[#34]

I would buy one for $90 but not anything more because I like the look, function and sub $100 price of Romy drums.

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:40:59 PM EDT

[#35]

Damn, any1 got a # to the bulgys, I wonder how much to have them shipped to my door.(Groupbuy anyone?)

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:57:47 PM EDT

[#36]

tagalicious

Posted: 8/20/2008 11:02:24 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
you can pick up "real" Chinese 75rd drums for the same price, yes? ...

Duuuuude,, PRICE IS UNKNOWN on these as of yet, soooooooo

could be $100 each, or less, WHO KNOWS man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think man, with an unlimited supply COMING from Bulgaria, the price would HAVE to be on the "damn cheaper than current chinese drum prices"

Easy on the redbulls there surfer. Price from copes is $159.99.

And, quoted from Copes over on TOS.

There will be a limited supply of these drums.. so get your pre-order in today.

+1 on the chill pills.

And since a LOT of speculation on price reductions of original, pre-ban Chinese drums has been made due to the arrival of these drum magazines, I'd like to throw my thinking out there as well. I believe this will do next to nothing regarding bringing the price down on the Chinese-marked ones.

Collectors have a knack of associating unique traits and prices to everything. These new magazines are just another variation of a (Chinese) drum magazine - not a substitute for one. For the numerous collectors, this one will probably be referred to as the "Bulgarian-Chinese 75rd Drum Magazine" variant. Because of its unique way it was permitted to be imported into the US, it will have a collector value all its own. And imagine if there's even a few interesting, collectible differences with these magazines themselves. In fact, once they're sold out, expect them to cost a little more thanks to the many and growing number of Kalashnikov enthusiasts out there. In time, they'll probably also command prices in the range of what the Chinese-marked ones are now. I'm no expert or psychic, but I've been around the hobby for a little while and have a modest collection of Kalashnikov rifles/clones, bayonets, magazines, and accessories for the Kalashnikov. From 20+ years of observation, scrounging, and peddling wares in this hobby, I simply foresee the complete opposite of what's being said about pre-ban Chinese drum prices dropping.

The price of a pre-ban, Chinese-marked drum magazine will undoubtedly not be affected at all by this - there's too few of those magazines out there now for the overwhelming number of folks wanting them for any number of reasons. But this is just one member's $.02 on the subject. It's great to hear everyone's ideas hear, though.

Posted: 8/21/2008 12:18:15 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Cope's is taking pre-orders on these. Price is $159.99.

Haha that's retarded.

Every day I get more and more happy that I got into AKs and bought tons of stuff right after the AWB ended. Things are so picked over, dried up, and overpriced now it isn't funny.

Posted: 8/21/2008 4:58:46 AM EDT

[#39]

taggety

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:04:48 AM EDT

[#40]

$160? Pass.

You'd be much better served with the eight 40 round magazines you could buy with that money.

I'd like to have a drum, but I'm not paying more than $80 or so for one.

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:14:04 AM EDT

[#41]

I love Copes

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:33:01 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
you can pick up "real" Chinese 75rd drums for the same price, yes? ...

Duuuuude,, PRICE IS UNKNOWN on these as of yet, soooooooo

could be $100 each, or less, WHO KNOWS man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think man, with an unlimited supply COMING from Bulgaria, the price would HAVE to be on the "damn cheaper than current chinese drum prices"

Easy on the redbulls there surfer. Price from copes is $159.99.

And, quoted from Copes over on TOS.

There will be a limited supply of these drums.. so get your pre-order in today.

+1 on the chill pills.

And since a LOT of speculation on price reductions of original, pre-ban Chinese drums has been made due to the arrival of these drum magazines, I'd like to throw my thinking out there as well. I believe this will do next to nothing regarding bringing the price down on the Chinese-marked ones.

Collectors have a knack of associating unique traits and prices to everything. These new magazines are just another variation of a (Chinese) drum magazine - not a substitute for one. For the numerous collectors, this one will probably be referred to as the "Bulgarian-Chinese 75rd Drum Magazine" variant. Because of its unique way it was permitted to be imported into the US, it will have a collector value all its own. And imagine if there's even a few interesting, collectible differences with these magazines themselves. In fact, once they're sold out, expect them to cost a little more thanks to the many and growing number of Kalashnikov enthusiasts out there. In time, they'll probably also command prices in the range of what the Chinese-marked ones are now. I'm no expert or psychic, but I've been around the hobby for a little while and have a modest collection of Kalashnikov rifles/clones, bayonets, magazines, and accessories for the Kalashnikov. From 20+ years of observation, scrounging, and peddling wares in this hobby, I simply foresee the complete opposite of what's being said about pre-ban Chinese drum prices dropping.

The price of a pre-ban, Chinese-marked drum magazine will undoubtedly not be affected at all by this - there's too few of those magazines out there now for the overwhelming number of folks wanting them for any number of reasons. But this is just one member's $.02 on the subject. It's great to hear everyone's ideas hear, though.

The Bulgarians didn't buy the tooling from china to make a limited #.

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:33:32 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
Cope's is taking pre-orders on these. Price is $159.99.

I'll let other people buy them at that price and test them out. After they have been out for a few months we'll see about function and price. I can buy a lot of 40 round mags for $160 if need be.

BSW

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:40:12 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Cope's is taking pre-orders on these. Price is $159.99.

I'll let other people buy them at that price and test them out. After they have been out for a few months we'll see about function and price. I can buy a lot of 40 round mags for $160 if need be.

BSW

THat means...Brian Smith wins!

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:41:19 AM EDT

[#45]

I wish they would have bought the 100 round drum tooling, too.

Posted: 8/21/2008 7:38:57 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
The Bulgarians didn't buy the tooling from china to make a limited #.

And that's about the only thing that can be said for sure.

Posted: 8/21/2008 7:58:05 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
They are $159.99 - not too far from the price of an actual pre-ban Chinese drum.

$159.99???

Anyone who pays that price is a FOOL.

10 years ago DURING THE BAN (when supplies were nil), I paid $75 each for 2 Chinese mags just like these (which was the standard going rate in Shotgun News). Even accounting for inflation, now that there is no more ban, $160 is a RIPOFF!!!. They should be selling them for $60, not 160.

They can keep 'em.

Posted: 8/21/2008 8:00:34 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They are $159.99 - not too far from the price of an actual pre-ban Chinese drum.

$159.99???

Anyone who pays that price is a FOOL.

10 years ago DURING THE BAN (when supplies were nil), I paid $75 each for 2 Chinese mags just like these (which was the standard going rate in Shotgun News). Even accounting for inflation, now that there is no more ban, $160 is a RIPOFF!!!. They should be selling them for $60, not 160.

They can keep 'em.

and AK ammo used to be $40 per 1000

and a 1911 used to be $60 in the sears catalog

and gold used to be $20 an ounce

and Milled Arsenal SA93 used to be $400, now its $900.....
WELCOME TO LAST YEAR

UPDATE::: Called copes, they confirmed they got in 5000 of these babies, AND said that several other dist. is getting these drums. Asked about price dropping on these, and he said they were already selling A LOT of them, but certainly DID admit that due to more coming in country, AND other places (he didnt name the other Distrs.) getting them, that PRICE WOULD "almost certainly drop at some point!!!!!"