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Link Posted: 3/1/2010 12:35:32 AM EDT
[#1]
Originally Posted By Light1984:
Originally Posted By 007Kevin:
Anybody get some more pics of green reticle pics?  I'm looking for one in bright daylight, sun shining directly on the fiber optic.


Here are some pics of my new TA31G. Its midnight right now, so no outside pics, but I will try and get some for you tomorrow.

http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/P1010020.jpg
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/P1010011.jpg
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/P1010008.jpg


Light - AWESOME help bro.  Would love for the pics outside.  Say, what and how you got the reddot mounted in front of your ACOG?  I can't tell how you would use that reddot.
Link Posted: 3/1/2010 2:36:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Light1984] [#2]
Originally Posted By 007Kevin:
Light - AWESOME help bro.  Would love for the pics outside.  Say, what and how you got the reddot mounted in front of your ACOG?  I can't tell how you would use that reddot.


Here is the mount. Its a DD  1 o'clock mount. You basically tilt the rifle 45 degrees and then you can use the red dot. It mounts on the side rail.

http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=113


I will try and get the pics for you tomorrow. Sorry for the wait.
Link Posted: 3/1/2010 7:43:03 PM EDT
[#3]
That's what I figured but it looked like it was in-line from the pic.  No worries, but not going to lie, I am excited
Link Posted: 3/2/2010 9:31:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Kevin,

I haven't forgotten about you. Today was overcast/rainy. I will try again tomorrow.


Josh
Link Posted: 3/2/2010 11:51:47 PM EDT
[#5]
No worries, weather isn't the best collaborator
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 4:52:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Light1984] [#6]
Ok so here we go. After looking at these pictures, the pictures aren't really representative of the real thing. You will notice the green gets washed out in the pictures on some of the foliage, but when I actually looked through the scope, I didn't loose the reticle at all. I think if I had an HDR (High Dynamic Range) camera that it would give a better representation of the reticle. I think my crappy photography also makes these look worse than reality. Anyways, let me know if you guys wanna see anything else. Please look at the last picture and answer the question after it. Thanks.

In the shade, sun at 11 o'clock.


Not in the shade, sun at 5 o'clock


Not in the shade, sun at 530-6 o'clock


Not in the shade, sun at 430-5 o'clock


Not in the shade, sun at 10 o'clock


Not in the shade, sun at 1 o'clock


Inside, looking outside.



Ok, so looking at this last picture from inside you cant tell, but when I was outside, the left side of the top horizontal line on the BDC was also illuminated. It clearly should stay black like the rest of the BDC. Is this a quality control issue, should I contact Trijicon?
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 5:02:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Great pics, thanks.

One questions on all ACOG's:  Why do they go out of their way to have a million different reticule colors, but make them so small it doesn't matter?  Am I missing something?
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 5:13:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Light1984] [#8]
Ok, so I captured the green illumination on the BDC (see question above). Is that something I should raise a fuss about? I mean I did pay 1000+ for this scope, for that price, the thing should be flawless. Its not the same green as the donut, it looks like a tritium type green, or forest green I guess.

http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00440.jpg
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 5:19:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Originally Posted By Burnsy87:
Great pics, thanks.

One questions on all ACOG's:  Why do they go out of their way to have a million different reticule colors, but make them so small it doesn't matter?  Am I missing something?


To make it that much hard to decide which one to get...
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 11:48:49 PM EDT
[#10]
Awesome pics!  Thanks for doing that.  I could pick up the doughnut against that green bush pretty quick for how small it was.  Like you said it would look way different in person, more like that last pic, up close, and larger.  

As far as your extra green coloring on the hash below, I wouldn't mind it.  Almost like have a completely lit reticle, more of a benefit.
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 11:56:53 PM EDT
[#11]
That's the 4x correct?  I'm totally going green but with chevron and 4x
Link Posted: 3/4/2010 6:50:18 AM EDT
[#12]
Yea its 4x. Its weird, like you said, in reality the reticle is larger. I dunno, some kind of weird optical thing with the camera I guess, it makes the reticle smaller when taking pics.
Link Posted: 3/4/2010 8:54:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By Light1984:
Ok, so I captured the green illumination on the BDC (see question above). Is that something I should raise a fuss about? I mean I did pay 1000+ for this scope, for that price, the thing should be flawless. Its not the same green as the donut, it looks like a tritium type green, or forest green I guess.

http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00440.jpg



I remember seeing where somebody had a similar problem and sent it off to Trijicon where they fixed it for him. Try emailing CS at Trijicon to see what your options are. They are generally regarded as having good CS.
Link Posted: 3/5/2010 3:14:36 AM EDT
[#14]
Anybody have an RMR?  Debating on one of those as well.
Link Posted: 3/5/2010 1:59:26 PM EDT
[#15]
Can anyone post up some pics of the GRSC CRS reticle in low light and outside?
Link Posted: 3/5/2010 2:00:15 PM EDT
[#16]
Can anyone post up some pics of the GRSC CRS reticle in low light and outside?
Link Posted: 3/5/2010 5:46:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: troy808] [#17]
Just some pics to compare the red vs the green donut.
Took a series of shots within minutes of each other.
The only editing done was to crop and blacken the plate

TA11 and TA11-G




Link Posted: 3/5/2010 7:21:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By troy808:
Just some pics to compare the red vs the green donut.
Took a series of shots within minutes of each other.
The only editing done was to crop and blacken the plate

TA11 and TA11-G

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/rush2112-/AR15/TA11_800.jpg http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/rush2112-/AR15/TA11-G_800.jpg




OK. Now take two shots centered on the maroon car!
Link Posted: 3/5/2010 8:24:34 PM EDT
[#19]
Originally Posted By sovereign:
Originally Posted By troy808:
Just some pics to compare the red vs the green donut.
Took a series of shots within minutes of each other.
The only editing done was to crop and blacken the plate

TA11 and TA11-G

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/rush2112-/AR15/TA11_800.jpg http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/rush2112-/AR15/TA11-G_800.jpg




OK. Now take two shots centered on the maroon car!


How about a shot of the red reticle on the tail light?  I would venture to say that there is a background in which each of the colors will washout.  Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.

Link Posted: 3/5/2010 9:43:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: troy808] [#20]
[eta] I tried to replicate my pic on page 22, since tha truck wasn't there, I used the car as a reference.
[eta2] I will try to take more objective pics

. .

Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
Originally Posted By sovereign:
Originally Posted By troy808:
Just some pics to compare the red vs the green donut.
Took a series of shots within minutes of each other.
The only editing done was to crop and blacken the plate

TA11 and TA11-G

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/rush2112-/AR15/TA11_800.jpg http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/rush2112-/AR15/TA11-G_800.jpg




OK. Now take two shots centered on the maroon car!


How about a shot of the red reticle on the tail light?  I would venture to say that there is a background in which each of the colors will washout.  Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.


I agree.

However, in my situation - living in the tropics - it is green year-round.
I could do a 360, and 85% of the terrain below the tree-tops is some shade of green. (note 1984's reticle pics above mine.)
I probably won't be deploying anywhere in the near future, so red works for me.
I tried going green, but a traditional gas-guzzling rubber-tires-burning 8-cylinder works better for me :)

USMC stated in his "Trijicon ACOG Considerations" review that, "Nothing in nature is red or close to red."
Other than birds, fish, or autos, I would agree.

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

[eta3 new pics]

Due to popular demand, I have gone out to the rally point to compare real world reticle pics.
My last series was from the comfort of my garage.

This setting is a common scene where I live, and it's like this year-round.
Today was overcast, and I wish that the green(ery) would've popped more.

TA11 / TA11-G



A collage of the best pics. I was unable to get cooperative targets of opportunity for the red reticle - these are all that I have.

Link Posted: 3/6/2010 10:42:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThomasAb] [#21]
Originally Posted By foxyyy:
Originally Posted By isullivan:
Looking for reticle pics of a DMS-1 with and without illumination and at 1x and 4x

Thanks
Ian


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/859/dsc9991m.jpg

will try to get a pic with illumination on




I would really like to see it illuminated too.  Some people say it's kinda fish eyed at 1x is it good enough to operate with both eyes open?
-Thomas
Link Posted: 3/6/2010 11:06:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Konus M30 4.5-16x40

Blurry, i know, i suck. Mil-dot reticle with dual illumination



Link Posted: 3/7/2010 1:48:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By ThomasAb:
Originally Posted By foxyyy:
Originally Posted By isullivan:
Looking for reticle pics of a DMS-1 with and without illumination and at 1x and 4x

Thanks
Ian


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/859/dsc9991m.jpg

will try to get a pic with illumination on




I would really like to see it illuminated too.  Some people say it's kinda fish eyed at 1x is it good enough to operate with both eyes open?
-Thomas



Hey I just got my own DMS i will try to post a bunch of pictures when I am home on spring break ( a week away).  And yes it is a little fisheyed at 1x and even a bit on 2x but not bad.  As for 2 eyes open it is possible.

Ian
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 3:43:56 PM EDT
[#24]


Eotech 512 (mid illumination, full sun on snow) burm is at 100yds.
Link Posted: 3/12/2010 4:38:05 PM EDT
[#25]
Millet DMS-1 Reticle pictures.
To get an idea of the reticle shape and size:


Without any zoom on the camera to show FOV and actual reticle size:

The target (blue spruce)I would say the tree is close to 50 yards away:

1X non illuminated (not true 1x scope):

1X illuminated:

2X:

3X:

4X:



I have to say these pictures do not show the clarity of the glass well.  I was also taking the pictures through a window and a screen with overcast.
Actual view is much brighter and crisp.

I will try to post some pictures during day light from outdoors and see how they turn out.
Link Posted: 3/21/2010 2:28:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Duffy] [#26]
TA31ECOS



TA31ECOS BUIS
Link Posted: 3/21/2010 5:31:56 PM EDT
[#27]


TA01NSN
Link Posted: 3/22/2010 3:17:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Burris fastfire on a YHM 1/2" riser on a STG 556

Link Posted: 3/26/2010 11:43:02 AM EDT
[#29]
Primary Arms 4x fixed


Link Posted: 3/31/2010 5:46:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hokie] [#30]
TR24R Full Sun at 1X & 4X.  Treeline is 150 yards away.  Of course, my photo skills leave a lot to be desired.  The reticle looks more "white" than red in the photos, which isn't the case at all.  In actuality the clarity of the Accupoint and the deep rich color of the red against the background is astounding.  I think it's because the reticle is so damn bright under the sun - must have something to do with the blooming. Dunno.   Regardless, the pics do present a decent reference to the size of the reticle.  Incredible optic.




Link Posted: 4/3/2010 12:06:58 AM EDT
[#31]
Anyone have a view through a Viper PST 1-4x24 TMCQ MOA reticle?

Thanks
Link Posted: 4/6/2010 5:39:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3gunbutch] [#32]
TA11H


Link Posted: 4/6/2010 6:02:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 12:46:29 AM EDT
[#34]
Some night time shots. The reticule  illumination is a little brighter than what it is supposed to be because I was looking from indoors to outdoors. Very dark outside and pics were shot at ISO3200 resulting in the grainy images.

Trijicon TA31F



Trijicon TR24G at 4X

Link Posted: 4/9/2010 2:36:03 PM EDT
[#35]
TA55


~150m


Mounted
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 9:13:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zhukov] [#36]
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 9:20:58 PM EDT
[#37]
No credit?  Objection!

Nah I don't need no credit, people know who took the ACOG sight view with the ocean in the background by now
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 9:23:02 PM EDT
[#38]
THANK YOU!!!!!!


Make sure the make and model of the optic is included with the pic, but I'm sure you know that!
Link Posted: 4/9/2010 9:38:35 PM EDT
[#39]
Nice plan, thanks
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 12:13:00 AM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 11:46:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: beavo451] [#41]
Aimpoint T-1, Trijicon TR24G, Trijicon TA31F

Note: All pictures were taken with just the optic. Not mounted to any rifles.













Link Posted: 4/10/2010 12:34:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 1:03:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By Wormydog1724:



Nice pics!!

How far away was the building?

The 4x on the TR24 and TA31 seems way different. I know FOV was something to do with it but still the magnification seems different to me also.


It is an optical illusion due to the FOV being larger on the TA31. Since I made the size of each image the same, the smaller FOV of the TR24 will appear more "zoomed in". If you crop the TA31 image to have the same FOV as the TR24, they should appear the same.

I suck at range estimation, but I would guesstimate the building to be about 400-500 yards away.
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 3:07:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wormydog1724] [#44]
Originally Posted By beavo451:
Originally Posted By Wormydog1724:



Nice pics!!

How far away was the building?

The 4x on the TR24 and TA31 seems way different. I know FOV was something to do with it but still the magnification seems different to me also.


It is an optical illusion due to the FOV being larger on the TA31. Since I made the size of each image the same, the smaller FOV of the TR24 will appear more "zoomed in". If you crop the TA31 image to have the same FOV as the TR24, they should appear the same.

I suck at range estimation, but I would guesstimate the building to be about 400-500 yards away.



Just by looking at the size of the windows, the TR24 seems like it has a bit more magnification. Not a big deal. THanks for the pics.


ETA: Now I just looked at the chevron in size compared to the window and I believe you are 100% correct now. The FOV is playing tricks with my eyes. The chevrons look the exact same size when compared to the size of the windows in both pics.
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 3:29:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tt350z] [#45]
Originally Posted By Light1984:
Ok so here we go. After looking at these pictures, the pictures aren't really representative of the real thing. You will notice the green gets washed out in the pictures on some of the foliage, but when I actually looked through the scope, I didn't loose the reticle at all. I think if I had an HDR (High Dynamic Range) camera that it would give a better representation of the reticle. I think my crappy photography also makes these look worse than reality. Anyways, let me know if you guys wanna see anything else. Please look at the last picture and answer the question after it. Thanks.

In the shade, sun at 11 o'clock.
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00420.jpg

Not in the shade, sun at 5 o'clock
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00425.jpg

Not in the shade, sun at 530-6 o'clock
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00427.jpg

Not in the shade, sun at 430-5 o'clock
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00428.jpg

Not in the shade, sun at 10 o'clock
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00431.jpg

Not in the shade, sun at 1 o'clock
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00413.jpg

Inside, looking outside.
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp76/lowlight1984/DSC00433.jpg


Ok, so looking at this last picture from inside you cant tell, but when I was outside, the left side of the top horizontal line on the BDC was also illuminated. It clearly should stay black like the rest of the BDC. Is this a quality control issue, should I contact Trijicon?


There is no special camera required for HDR, your Sony works fine. I actually googled it and only found one camera that had an HDR feature in it, a Pentax DSLR. I'll gladly keep my Canon rather than have the built in feature.

Anyways, here's 2 of your pics in HDR (I was bored)


Link Posted: 4/10/2010 4:03:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By tt350z:
Originally Posted By Light1984:
Ok so here we go. After looking at these pictures, the pictures aren't really representative of the real thing. You will notice the green gets washed out in the pictures on some of the foliage, but when I actually looked through the scope, I didn't loose the reticle at all. I think if I had an HDR (High Dynamic Range) camera that it would give a better representation of the reticle. I think my crappy photography also makes these look worse than reality. Anyways, let me know if you guys wanna see anything else. Please look at the last picture and answer the question after it. Thanks.


Ok, so looking at this last picture from inside you cant tell, but when I was outside, the left side of the top horizontal line on the BDC was also illuminated. It clearly should stay black like the rest of the BDC. Is this a quality control issue, should I contact Trijicon?


There is no special camera required for HDR, your Sony works fine. I actually googled it and only found one camera that had an HDR feature in it, a Pentax DSLR. I'll gladly keep my Canon rather than have the built in feature.

Anyways, here's 2 of your pics in HDR (I was bored)



HDR photos cannot be made from a single image. HDR images must be made from a combination of differently exposed photos. You can play with adjustments to a single photo and achieve an HDR type look, but it is not a true HDR photo.
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 4:50:16 PM EDT
[#47]
I know. But he's only got 1 photo of it. If he had 3 photos that were bracketed, it would come out better.

Just working with what I got...
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 9:31:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
HERE IS THE LINK - THE FIRST THREE ARE ACTIVE.

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/OpticsReticles/ReticlePictures.htm

Let me know what you think.


I like it.  A lot.
Link Posted: 4/10/2010 9:39:11 PM EDT
[#49]
Link Posted: 4/11/2010 12:25:44 AM EDT
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