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Posted: 11/15/2010 8:51:29 PM EDT
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I guess it time for another Mag Whore Thread Post away, I'll get some of my old pics of Mags I used to own |
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Originally Posted By Snake0832:
So hereโs a question for all the mag hoarders; leaving them loaded? Iโm not worried about the spring as much as I am the feed lips/spine. Iโve got mostly magpul m2 and m3. Any damages leaving loaded for long time? Talking years. Iโve got a lot of mags with duty ammo loaded that will never be fired like my mags with fmj ammo. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Snake0832:
So hereโs a question for all the mag hoarders; leaving them loaded? Iโm not worried about the spring as much as I am the feed lips/spine. Iโve got mostly magpul m2 and m3. Any damages leaving loaded for long time? Talking years. Iโve got a lot of mags with duty ammo loaded that will never be fired like my mags with fmj ammo. View Quote Ive got 20ish pmags with 2012-13 date codes that have been loaded since 2013 with green tips and no dust covers. I had over 40 loaded in that batch but slowly shot some as time went on. I have had zero issues with the Moe/M2 mags. I did have a gen 1 break off an entire feed lip but thats been the extent of my pmag failures. I have a dozen M3โs but havent even loaded or used them yet. 75 pmags total these days. |
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Thanks for the response! Iโve got 9 loaded mags in my cruiser that I keep loaded with 28 rounds. All are M3 Magpul. Iโve still got some m2โs loaded with my first duty ammo back from 13. I always save it when I get new and keep loading spares. My main 4 mags ( 1 in rifle, 3 in plate carrier) get loaded with fresh ammo every year when issued. Was in a stand-off one night in a thunderstorm for about 6hrs. I shot one mag of that ammo about month later on the range and it worked just fine.... sitting on about 100 total mags for AR but I canโt figure out the picture thing since my PB quit working.
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Originally Posted By ZacSquatch: @snake0832 Ive got 20ish pmags with 2012-13 date codes that have been loaded since 2013 with green tips and no dust covers. I had over 40 loaded in that batch but slowly shot some as time went on. I have had zero issues with the Moe/M2 mags. I did have a gen 1 break off an entire feed lip but thats been the extent of my pmag failures. I have a dozen M3โs but havent even loaded or used them yet. 75 pmags total these days. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Snake0832:
Thanks for the response! Iโve got 9 loaded mags in my cruiser that I keep loaded with 28 rounds. All are M3 Magpul. Iโve still got some m2โs loaded with my first duty ammo back from 13. I always save it when I get new and keep loading spares. My main 4 mags ( 1 in rifle, 3 in plate carrier) get loaded with fresh ammo every year when issued. Was in a stand-off one night in a thunderstorm for about 6hrs. I shot one mag of that ammo about month later on the range and it worked just fine.... sitting on about 100 total mags for AR but I canโt figure out the picture thing since my PB quit working. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:
FYI, one of the great things about PMAG's is the ability to load to full, 30-round, capacity without having to worry about the mag not locking into place when inserted into a gun with a closed bolt. You're just depriving yourself of two rounds and making reloads necessary that much sooner because of a cure to a problem with completely different magazines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:
Originally Posted By Snake0832:
Thanks for the response! Iโve got 9 loaded mags in my cruiser that I keep loaded with 28 rounds. All are M3 Magpul. |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: FYI, one of the great things about PMAG's is the ability to load to full, 30-round, capacity without having to worry about the mag not locking into place when inserted into a gun with a closed bolt. You're just depriving yourself of two rounds and making reloads necessary that much sooner because of a cure to a problem with completely different magazines. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: FYI, one of the great things about PMAG's is the ability to load to full, 30-round, capacity without having to worry about the mag not locking into place when inserted into a gun with a closed bolt. You're just depriving yourself of two rounds and making reloads necessary that much sooner because of a cure to a problem with completely different magazines. View Quote |
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God Bless Our LEOs, Especially Lake Arthur Reserve
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Originally Posted By Crogers23:
I've never had an issue with any of my mags (Lancer, PMAG, Colt USGI, D&H USGI, etc) fully loaded to 30rds fitting into any of my AR's with a closed bolt. I think a lot of people that have had this issue have accidentally loaded 31 rounds in their mag. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Crogers23:
Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: FYI, one of the great things about PMAG's is the ability to load to full, 30-round, capacity without having to worry about the mag not locking into place when inserted into a gun with a closed bolt. You're just depriving yourself of two rounds and making reloads necessary that much sooner because of a cure to a problem with completely different magazines. |
I will not compromise!
Ne Desit Virtus (Let Valor Not Fail) - Rakkasan! "Life is fucking hard. Either get used to taking a few lumps like the rest of us, or buy a fucking helmet and crawl into a corner somewhere." -Me |
I can't tell a difference in force required to seat a mag on a closed bolt; 28 or 30 rounds, PMAG or Okay. Because of that, I load to 30.
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Originally Posted By Crogers23: I've never had an issue with any of my mags (Lancer, PMAG, Colt USGI, D&H USGI, etc) fully loaded to 30rds fitting into any of my AR's with a closed bolt. I think a lot of people that have had this issue have accidentally loaded 31 rounds in their mag. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: I've had the issue plenty of times during my eight years in Army combat arms (Infantry and then Artillery FO assigned to INF platoons). I can assure you, it wasn't because I had thirty-one rounds in the mag, as there are ten rounds per stripper clip and I would have had to somehow put one round from a fourth clip into the magazine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: I've had the issue plenty of times during my eight years in Army combat arms (Infantry and then Artillery FO assigned to INF platoons). I can assure you, it wasn't because I had thirty-one rounds in the mag, as there are ten rounds per stripper clip and I would have had to somehow put one round from a fourth clip into the magazine. Originally Posted By jonm78: Same here with any PMAG or Center Industries and Okay USGI mags. Always loaded to 30 rounds and never an issue seating on a closed bolt. I use the Reid Henrichs method though. Always have and always will. |
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Originally Posted By Crogers23: I've never had an issue with any of my mags (Lancer, PMAG, Colt USGI, D&H USGI, etc) fully loaded to 30rds fitting into any of my AR's with a closed bolt. I think a lot of people that have had this issue have accidentally loaded 31 rounds in their mag. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Crogers23:
https://i.imgur.com/OSPtmECl.jpg View Quote |
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@SideSalad that looks really sharp.
Your room altogether looks like a place I'd love to hang around in! |
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Was a fun project. Organization (functional) is always a challenge with everything (mags, ammo, parts, reloading stuff, etc.)
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Originally Posted By SideSalad:
This thread needs more mag art: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/238563/66C12F02-28EC-4A91-82DA-BBE24F0611FA-1189926.jpg View Quote |
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Used what I believe what are called โtie hangarsโ from Home Depot. Theyโre white; inverted/on their sides, and I snapped off every other pc of wire. Then spray painted black and mounted to a pc of plywood. The board is wrapped in trunk liner material.
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Originally Posted By SideSalad:
Used what I believe what are called โtie hangarsโ from Home Depot. Theyโre white; inverted/on their sides, and I snapped off every other pc of wire. Then spray painted black and mounted to a pc of plywood. The board is wrapped in trunk liner material. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By endofdays:
i have no clue how many mags i have but they are everywhere around the house, on pc, on belt, night stand, both safes, all ~30 of my ars have mags in them and a big ammo crate full as well. all are loaded cause unloaded mags are dumb View Quote I keep a normal load out ready. 7-8 mags. Maybe ten. And even then I rotate those every 6-9 months. |
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Originally Posted By AIWB:
Ten years goes by fast. Then itโs twenty. Then longer. Then one day you go to use them and they ftf. Iโm not trying to be a dick but the chances of you lasting past a couple of mags in a SHTF gun fight is small. I keep a normal load out ready. 7-8 mags. Maybe ten. And even then I rotate those every 6-9 months. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AIWB:
Originally Posted By endofdays:
i have no clue how many mags i have but they are everywhere around the house, on pc, on belt, night stand, both safes, all ~30 of my ars have mags in them and a big ammo crate full as well. all are loaded cause unloaded mags are dumb I keep a normal load out ready. 7-8 mags. Maybe ten. And even then I rotate those every 6-9 months. |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: I've had the issue plenty of times during my eight years in Army combat arms (Infantry and then Artillery FO assigned to INF platoons). I can assure you, it wasn't because I had thirty-one rounds in the mag, as there are ten rounds per stripper clip and I would have had to somehow put one round from a fourth clip into the magazine. View Quote |
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Are you cloning yourself?
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Originally Posted By Crogers23:
https://i.imgur.com/OSPtmECl.jpg View Quote |
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Guns are kewl.
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Here is some of mine. Maybe 600 here? I'll have to check again. Tan followers are stacked two rows deep. And I have more somewhere. I need to get a complete run down on what all I have.
Pile o' mags |
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Originally Posted By SenselessPuma:
Here is some of mine. Maybe 600 here? I'll have to check again. Tan followers are stacked two rows deep. And I have more somewhere. I need to get a complete run down on what all I have. Pile o' mags View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cone256: My last order from Black Friday https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/214520/20191130_211452-1179495.jpg View Quote Well, aint we a little filthy hoe bag. |
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Originally Posted By tooly: Well, aint we a little filthy hoe bag. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tooly: Originally Posted By cone256: My last order from Black Friday https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/214520/20191130_211452-1179495.jpg Well, aint we a little filthy hoe bag. |
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Doing some shooting this week and rotating ammo out. 102 30 rd mags, all USGI except for one FN Mk16 SCAR mag and 6 PMag Gen 3. Also 3x20 about 50 yrs old. USGI mags have couple black, with majority green or tan followers. About a dozen blue enhanced mags. All work without issues. Loaded with M196, M855, M855A1, M856, M995, Mk262 and Mk318. Total is 3,120 rds. Still have about 20 mags worth to shoot up.
One thing to remember on any mag, is to have just a bit of compression on the rounds for the closed bolt. White string pulled on bandoleers for 30 rd mags to fit. Attached File Fired about 14 mags today besides the Mk17 ammo (180 rds of M118LR) Attached File CD |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: Springs don't go bad by being compressed for long periods of time. They go bad from compressing and decompressing many, many times. Keeping mags loaded isn't about lasting in a SHTF fantasy fight, anyways. It's about conserving space. I can store a magazine AND 30-rounds of ammo in the exact same space as the magazine, so why not do it? View Quote Well, we can both argue about it or just agree to disagree. The phenomenon of spring creep is most certainly real. We can sit here for the next week and volley conjecture and anecdotes back and forth but ultimately we could both be correct. If the spring was engineered properly, and made properly, yes, youโd be right (for the most part). However not all mag manufacturers are โtop shelfโ so to speak. For range mags, cheaper mags can be worth the savings. For serious use mags Iโd only recommend the top brands. You still can encounter creep with them, but no where near as likely. Still, downloading them is a good way to ensure you keep the spring stress below the critical fatigue limit. |
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Originally Posted By AIWB: Well, we can both argue about it or just agree to disagree. ย The phenomenon of spring creep is most certainly real. We can sit here for the next week and volley conjecture and anecdotes back and forth but ultimately we could both be correct. If the spring was engineered properly, and made properly, yes, youโd be right (for the most part). However not all mag manufacturers are โtop shelfโ so to speak. For range mags, cheaper mags can be worth the savings. For serious use mags Iโd only recommend the top brands. You still can encounter creep with them, but no where near as likely. Still, downloading them is a good way to ensure you keep the spring stress below the critical fatigue limit. View Quote I think its a moot point. When I did the factory tour at PSA, I chatted up the guys who do the test firing. They fire every gun and every upper their build there. This was back when they were making about 1500 uppers a day. Do the math on that and those mags are really getting a workout. For .223 ARs, they use magpul and their house branded D&H mags. These mags get used all through the day, putting in 40hr work weeks. They don't keep exact round numbers on the individual mags, but a rough estimate was in the upper portion of 5 digit numbers of rounds before the mags shat the bed. Loading and unloading each magazine thousands of times. By the time you run enough ammo through a magazine to the point of wearing it out, you're up over $20k worth of ammo (at last years prices), almost double that in today's prices. These are mostly $8-20 magazines we're all collecting here in the thread. By the time you have loaded and unloaded that mag thousands of times and blown through $20k worth of ammo, that little $8 mag has done its job. And if you have "10 mags per rifle", and "2 is 1 and 1 is none", then you have at least 20 magazines. If you won't be blowing through $400k-$800k worth of ammo, there's no point worrying about it because you'll never use up your magazines. |
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Originally Posted By giantpune: I think its a moot point. When I did the factory tour at PSA, I chatted up the guys who do the test firing. ย They fire every gun and every upper their build there. ย This was back when they were making about 1500 uppers a day. ย Do the math on that and those mags are really getting a workout. For .223 ARs, they use magpul and their house branded D&H mags. ย These mags get used all through the day, putting in 40hr work weeks. ย They don't keep exact round numbers on the individual mags, but a rough estimate was in the upper portion of 5 digit numbers of rounds before the mags shat the bed. ย Loading and unloading each magazine thousands of times. ย By the time you run enough ammo through a magazine to the point of wearing it out, you're up over $20k worth of ammo (at last years prices), almost double that in today's prices. ย These are mostly $8-20 magazines we're all collecting here in the thread. ย By the time you have loaded and unloaded that mag thousands of times and blown through $20k worth of ammo, that little $8 mag has done its job. ย And if you have "10 mags per rifle", and "2 is 1 and 1 is none", then you have at least 20 magazines. ย If you won't be blowing through $400k-$800k worth of ammo, there's no point worrying about it because you'll never use up your magazines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By AIWB: Well, we can both argue about it or just agree to disagree. ย The phenomenon of spring creep is most certainly real. We can sit here for the next week and volley conjecture and anecdotes back and forth but ultimately we could both be correct. If the spring was engineered properly, and made properly, yes, youโd be right (for the most part). However not all mag manufacturers are โtop shelfโ so to speak. For range mags, cheaper mags can be worth the savings. For serious use mags Iโd only recommend the top brands. You still can encounter creep with them, but no where near as likely. Still, downloading them is a good way to ensure you keep the spring stress below the critical fatigue limit. I think its a moot point. When I did the factory tour at PSA, I chatted up the guys who do the test firing. ย They fire every gun and every upper their build there. ย This was back when they were making about 1500 uppers a day. ย Do the math on that and those mags are really getting a workout. For .223 ARs, they use magpul and their house branded D&H mags. ย These mags get used all through the day, putting in 40hr work weeks. ย They don't keep exact round numbers on the individual mags, but a rough estimate was in the upper portion of 5 digit numbers of rounds before the mags shat the bed. ย Loading and unloading each magazine thousands of times. ย By the time you run enough ammo through a magazine to the point of wearing it out, you're up over $20k worth of ammo (at last years prices), almost double that in today's prices. ย These are mostly $8-20 magazines we're all collecting here in the thread. ย By the time you have loaded and unloaded that mag thousands of times and blown through $20k worth of ammo, that little $8 mag has done its job. ย And if you have "10 mags per rifle", and "2 is 1 and 1 is none", then you have at least 20 magazines. ย If you won't be blowing through $400k-$800k worth of ammo, there's no point worrying about it because you'll never use up your magazines. I believe most peoples concern (whether warranted or not) is that they want to ensure that magazine is going to reliably feed a round to go into the chamber every single time. I dont think most worry about the cost so much as they worry that it may fail when they need it. I for one dont worry about it and havent had an issue. That being said, the longest ive had a mag stay loaded was going on 6 years (M2 PMAGS) and they are still gtg. |
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Originally Posted By M_O_G: I see some Bulgarian mags there...... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By M_O_G: Originally Posted By Crogers23: https://i.imgur.com/OSPtmECl.jpg I see some Bulgarian mags there...... Looks like someone else noticed as well. |
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Originally Posted By ss2nv: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/92450/31CBE04C-0A1C-4ADB-A3A3-AA5E55AA14EC_jpe-1740516.JPG View Quote That's a pretty good start All those in the bags would drive me nuts, it's hard for me to leave a mag in the bag/box |
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To Those Who Have Given For FREEDOM I THANK YOU
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I recently did an inventory on my magazines And just got inspired to take pictures(not pulling them all out).
AR mags Attached File Other rifle/pistol Attached File Not quite all of them pictured but 365 currently with 26 more to ship tomorrow hopefully. My ammo/mag storage. Attached File |
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To Those Who Have Given For FREEDOM I THANK YOU
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Originally Posted By HEATH223: I recently did an inventory on my magazines And just got inspired to take pictures(not pulling them all out). AR mags https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/44378/BA1ED182-C083-42D2-A3EA-E42A9FD68B50_jpe-1740679.JPG Other rifle/pistol https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/44378/66A634CC-F10F-495A-986F-85358E802A1D_jpe-1740681.JPG Not quite all of them pictured but 365 currently with 26 more to ship tomorrow hopefully. My ammo/mag storage. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/44378/IMG_0016_jpg-1740713.JPG View Quote That's some nice organization you've got there! Impressive stash. My OCD approves ๐ But you need more labels... |
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Thatโs a beauty indeed!!
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Clearly I need to up my mag game....
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Sometimes I feel bad. But there's a few in this thread that make me feel better. Lol
POST MORE PICS!!!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan: A Pelican 1520 will hold 50 pmags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/201992/IMG_20210424_124406009_4_jpg-1917438.JPG View Quote Good gouge - thx. |
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