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Posted: 2/16/2010 11:27:20 PM EDT
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(My pics will be back up soon.) Edit: 5-13-16. Only pic I could find: The dark orange was FDE dip in an entire solution of Rit Orange powder. In real life it is almost burgundy, Yep, too much. The more golden/brown/orange-y mags are also FDE but with a more measured application of orange lol. Then two FDE mags for comparison. (the last two are foliage green. terrible for color dyeing ) As of 2016 Magpul's "SAND" color is nearly white in reality. Easier to get the color you want. IMG_20160513_231453 by Dan Passaro, on Flickr <Link Removed....................dpmmn> Ingredients: Rit Dye (Walmart bleach section [not crafts section], shoe shine area from my local Winn Dixie grocery store are the places I've found Rit Dye.) Originally Posted By PraesulPresul1:
I may have missed it in here but here could point a guy in the general direction of color combos: Rit Dye Color Chart View Quote FDE PMAG Lessons learned: Both amount of dye and amount of time factor into the color change so try to do everything at the same time. I did one PMAG first and then the other the next day and was really, really, really close in a color match. I ended up leaving it in the solution about 30 seconds longer than I should have. If you end up doing more later on, dip in increments until you get the match. Bring water to a near boil instead of an actual boil. My first PMAG tests were in boiling water and while there doesn't appear to be any actual function issues I figured it would be best not to push it lol. FDE is the best host color to get the color you're looking for. Yellow rit dye on foliage green simply resulted in a darker, puke green. Add dye to the water until you are just slightly darker than the color you're after. The brick red PMAG is a result of adding the whole sunshine orange packet to 6 cups of water lol. The lighter, more orange PMAG was the second attempt using that little tip. Use stainless steel pots and tongs for easy cleanup. To be investigated: Rit Dye is available in white. I'll be trying this out on FDE to lighten it up and then follow with orange/whatever to see what happens. Never found it. Some pics showing the penetration of the dye: It is just penetrating into the material. Just to clarify some heat is needed to help penetration. ====================================== ROUND 3 Looks like FDE is the best host color and Orange is better than Yellow for getting closest to orange. There is a White Rit Dye but they didn't have any in stock. Here is a sample from Walmart. They're not in the crafts section (there is a different dye there but the employee said the Rit is superior) but in the bleach section. I bought several colors this time for other stuff. One day I'll try white and then follow up with orange/whatever ====================================== ROUND 2: I got away from boiling and dipping. I got the water to almost boil and then took it off the stove. Just in case (ref: the plastic). Just hot/hot water and let it sit for about 5-7 min. Again just in case lol. This time I added powder until it became like orange bug juice. Not enough in the result. So a little more until it was closer to red bug juice. Result: Camera color balanced off an 18% gray card. Conclusion: I have another FDE PMAG and two FG PMAGs. Yellow RIT Dye tomorrow =================================== ROUND 1: This was khaki with Sunshine Orange. So next time I'll do Yellow on Foliage PMAG Boil water in SS pot, mix in one packet (or less), drop in parts for 5 min or less, while stirring with stainless tongs (ideally). The stainless cleans up easiest. Remove and rinse under cold water for a bit. Intersting factoid, reference: delrin. Not a material I've seen used in polymer parts. Just interesting dupont pdf http://plastics.dupont.com/plastics/pdflit/americas/delrin/230323c.pdf Dyeing
Surfaces of Delrin acetal resin can be dyed by either the “Water Solvent Method” or the “Organic Solvent Method.” Part geometry must be taken into account when dyeing Delrin acetal resin because part thickness influences the rate at which staining occurs. Thin sections stain more rapidly than thick. Consequently, variations in section thickness will determine the immersion time required for color uniformity and tone. Light uniform tones may be difficult to achieve. Commercial household dyes such as “Tintex”1 and “Rit”2 have also been used successfully to dye parts of Delrin acetal resin for color coding. Bath temperatures of 85–90°C (185–195°F) should be employed with “Tintex” and “Rit” to obtain adequate dye penetration and good color. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Offspring:
I did one in yellow and orange. https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/286/18573079172_9d5b4f0f42_k.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/336/17955071334_067b073e6e_k.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Offspring:
Originally Posted By BIG_PAPA:
Has anyone tried the sand mags yet? I did one in yellow and orange. https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/286/18573079172_9d5b4f0f42_k.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/336/17955071334_067b073e6e_k.jpg NICE! |
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Has anyone tried blue on the sand mags?
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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Originally Posted By nturavrgcop:
I have been waiting on a good solution for yellow! How long was the dip time, and how much die to water? Thanks! That looks fantastic!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nturavrgcop:
Originally Posted By Offspring:
Originally Posted By BIG_PAPA:
Has anyone tried the sand mags yet? I did one in yellow and orange. https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/286/18573079172_9d5b4f0f42_k.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/336/17955071334_067b073e6e_k.jpg Thanks! That looks fantastic!!! I guestimated the water dye mix. I pulled out out frequently to check the color. |
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Any one have luck matching Magpul Pink with a sand magazine?
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not gonna look through 23 pages of this thread but an old trick i learned from my lacrosse days is used vinegar and salt along with the water and dye, i believe the vinegar makes the color more vibrant while the salt increases penetration of the due...... i could be completely wrong but it's been a while
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In case someone was wondering if a Hogue stock would take dye, the answer is no.
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Originally Posted By nturavrgcop:
That's disappointing, but helpful to know. I was considering that as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nturavrgcop:
Originally Posted By jasoncbugleboy:
In case someone was wondering if a Hogue stock would take dye, the answer is no. Left it in for a little over an hour and no change. |
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Anyone have a recipe for OD Green?
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has anyone tried Jacquard or Dharma dyes? they make some interesting colors but no idea if they'd stick to pmags as well as Rit. and yes i searched.
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see post below with new image |
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Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Here is my try at Stealth Gray http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=79695 View Quote Looks good did you start with sand? |
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Originally Posted By M15A2: Looks good did you start with sand? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By M15A2: Originally Posted By dpmmn: Here is my try at Stealth Gray http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=79695 Looks good did you start with sand? Sand was the base, I'm going to take some pics outside tomorrow with a camera and not my phone to see how they look dip time was 27 minutes |
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How much of the 8oz bottle is used for 1 mag?
Going to order some mags and rit soon :) Anyone tried "wine" rit dye to get a maroon magazine? EDIT: MidwayUSA has 30 round Sand M3 mags on clearance for $10.99 |
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Originally Posted By Retzam: How much of the 8oz bottle is used for 1 mag? Going to order some mags and rit soon :) Anyone tried "wine" rit dye to get a maroon magazine? EDIT: MidwayUSA has 30 round Sand M3 mags on clearance for $10.99 View Quote these turned out kind of dark after 30 minutes I used about 1/4 of the bottle, sorry for the crappy pic |
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Originally Posted By dpmmn: these turned out kind of dark after 30 minutes I used about 1/4 of the bottle, sorry for the crappy pic http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80480 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dpmmn: Originally Posted By Retzam: How much of the 8oz bottle is used for 1 mag? Going to order some mags and rit soon :) Anyone tried "wine" rit dye to get a maroon magazine? EDIT: MidwayUSA has 30 round Sand M3 mags on clearance for $10.99 these turned out kind of dark after 30 minutes I used about 1/4 of the bottle, sorry for the crappy pic http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80480 Thanks. I also was reading Red + Coco brown, or Scarlet over a long period. Have not seen much on the wine dye though :) Thanks for the input! |
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When asked if people point their muzzle up or down at the range when not shooting, bblake00 replies:
"I just point them at people walking to change their targets and dryfire while going bang bang with each pull of the trigger." |
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Has anyone tried to match the original Magpul blue dying sand mags? I would like to have a few in that blue for range use. Pmags at one of the ranges I use have a habit of gravitating to other users benches.
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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Originally Posted By 50cal: Has anyone tried to match the original Magpul blue dying sand mags? I would like to have a few in that blue for range use. Pmags at one of the ranges I use have a habit of gravitating to other users benches. View Quote I'm working on some 40's right now results in a couple of hours |
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View Quote Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? |
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View Quote Look great! Will have to give that a try. |
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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I've seen so many cool colored mags in this thread that I don't know which rit dye(s) to buy!
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When asked if people point their muzzle up or down at the range when not shooting, bblake00 replies:
"I just point them at people walking to change their targets and dryfire while going bang bang with each pull of the trigger." |
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter: Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter: Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? |
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I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 10 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid |
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Originally Posted By dpmmn: I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 10 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dpmmn: Originally Posted By nturavrgcop: Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter: Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 10 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid |
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Originally Posted By dpmmn:
these turned out kind of dark after 30 minutes I used about 1/4 of the bottle, sorry for the crappy pic http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80480 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Originally Posted By Retzam:
How much of the 8oz bottle is used for 1 mag? Going to order some mags and rit soon :) Anyone tried "wine" rit dye to get a maroon magazine? EDIT: MidwayUSA has 30 round Sand M3 mags on clearance for $10.99 these turned out kind of dark after 30 minutes I used about 1/4 of the bottle, sorry for the crappy pic http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80480 According to the Rit site Cherry Red is "blue based" while Scarlet is "red based". |
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Originally Posted By dpmmn:
I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 10 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Originally Posted By nturavrgcop:
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 10 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid Can you clarify what you mean by at 10 degrees part of your post? Thanks Wes |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Can you clarify what you mean by at 10 degrees part of your post? Thanks Wes View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Originally Posted By nturavrgcop:
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 10 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid Can you clarify what you mean by at 10 degrees part of your post? Thanks Wes Maybe he meant 100 |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: Can you clarify what you mean by at 10 degrees part of your post? Thanks Wes View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wangstang: Originally Posted By dpmmn: Originally Posted By nturavrgcop: Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter: Do you mind sharing your mixtures and method on those? I poured about a 1/3 of a bottle into about 1 1/2 gallons of water that was around 170 degrees I soaked the mag for about 25-30 minutes, I did them one at a time after each mag I would add a couple of tablespoons of dye to the water to avoid them getting lighter The RIT Dye that I used is Aquamarine, it $2.97 at Walmart for liquid Can you clarify what you mean by at 10 degrees part of your post? Thanks Wes about 170 degrees |
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Midway has (had?) a deal going on the sand mags (see the deals thread for info), so I've got about 60 sand mags coming. Time to go shopping for some dye!
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Are the sand mags lighter than the old UDE mags?
I've finally gotten around to dying some mags and I'm using 5 M2 UDE mags I got a long time ago. |
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Originally Posted By LuckyDucky: Apparently Royal Blue at 30 minutes at 160F + Tangerine at 12 minutes at 160F makes chocolate brown. The burnt orange is tangerine at ~24 minutes Base mag was UDE http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80588 View Quote Those blue mags turned out a little dark, the orange look pretty close to spot on Good job
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Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Those blue mags turned out a little dark, the orange look pretty close to spot on Good job View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
Apparently Royal Blue at 30 minutes at 160F + Tangerine at 12 minutes at 160F makes chocolate brown. The burnt orange is tangerine at ~24 minutes Base mag was UDE http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80588 Those blue mags turned out a little dark, the orange look pretty close to spot on Good job My walmart had aquamarine (light blue), royal blue, and navy blue. I used royal but aquamarine is closer like you did above. It just means I have to buy more mags! I want to make some using the walmart bag method in the magpul video. |
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I have got to try this...
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Does anyone have a recipe for FDE starting with a sand pmag?
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Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
Apparently Royal Blue at 30 minutes at 160F + Tangerine at 12 minutes at 160F makes chocolate brown. The burnt orange is tangerine at ~24 minutes Base mag was UDE http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=80588 View Quote That royal blue mag looks great. Going to have to give that a try as well as the aquamarine |
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IMG_20150926_144759_444 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr IMG_20150926_221222_938 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr Finished tangerine IMG_20150927_074714_491 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr One of my FDE Vickers glock base plates IMG_20150927_083131_697 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr Dark cherry red and Tangerine IMG_20150927_102710_235 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr IMG_20150927_102720_600 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr IMG_20150927_102727_245 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr IMG_20150927_102812_437 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr IMG_20150927_102745_396 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr Not my first rodeo with the dye.. Did a od green to dark brown on my 300 blackout hunting rifle DSC_1856 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr DSC_1828 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr DSC_1995 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr |
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That dark brown looks really good.
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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Originally Posted By 50cal:
That dark brown looks really good. View Quote Thanks I really like the brown a lot DSC_1841 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr |
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Tried to make grey... just a lil bit to much dye to water. Trigger guard turned about better because it was originally Foliage green
DSC_2657 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr DSC_2658 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr Kept one sand .. for now DSC_2659 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted By Jamiehstanley:
Tried to make grey... just a lil bit to much dye to water. Trigger guard turned about better because it was originally Foliage green <a href="https://flic.kr/p/zpiCiw" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5721/21923491776_a1de0d4acb_b.jpg</a>DSC_2657 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr <a href="https://flic.kr/p/zqxGgd" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5668/21937553162_fd3f66e5d3_b.jpg</a>DSC_2658 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr Kept one sand .. for now <a href="https://flic.kr/p/zrBCNk" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5805/21949638455_40514a73e1_b.jpg</a>DSC_2659 by jamiehstanley, on Flickr View Quote I dig the orange. |
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