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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpmmn:
I think this one has been around longer 
With that said, I scored another can of AB49 today 820rds of SOST goodness Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpmmn:
Originally Posted By SideSalad:
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Anyone else pick up anything? They may be over @ the "What have you done this week ammo-wise" thread. I think this one has been around longer
With that said, I scored another can of AB49 today 820rds of SOST goodness Some day I'll post all the ammo at the house in one pic [if I can fit it all in]. It won't be while we have a socialist scumbag in the White House. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 9:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDo you ship to Connecticut? |
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Posted: 12/10/2015 10:56:12 AM EDT
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Any way to insure ammo? I tallied up mine the other night, and have $10k in replacement cost. And I know many here have many multiple of that.
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Posted: 12/10/2015 11:05:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Techsan02:
Any way to insure ammo? I tallied up mine the other night, and have $10k in replacement cost. And I know many here have many multiple of that. You're going to have a hard time finding a company to insure a consumable. Just make sure you have a high enough allowance for items on property under your homeowners policy and you should be good to go. |
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Posted: 12/10/2015 8:48:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wipeout:
You're going to have a hard time finding a company to insure a consumable. Just make sure you have a high enough allowance for items on property under your homeowners policy and you should be good to go. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wipeout:
Originally Posted By Techsan02:
Any way to insure ammo? I tallied up mine the other night, and have $10k in replacement cost. And I know many here have many multiple of that. You're going to have a hard time finding a company to insure a consumable. Just make sure you have a high enough allowance for items on property under your homeowners policy and you should be good to go. I would check with your agent before relying on your HO policy. I checked with mine, he investigated and came back with no, it's not insured. I have a separate policy for it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 3:41:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oregunner:
I would check with your agent before relying on your HO policy. I checked with mine, he investigated and came back with no, it's not insured. I have a separate policy for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oregunner:
Originally Posted By Wipeout:
Originally Posted By Techsan02:
Any way to insure ammo? I tallied up mine the other night, and have $10k in replacement cost. And I know many here have many multiple of that. You're going to have a hard time finding a company to insure a consumable. Just make sure you have a high enough allowance for items on property under your homeowners policy and you should be good to go. I would check with your agent before relying on your HO policy. I checked with mine, he investigated and came back with no, it's not insured. I have a separate policy for it. And the reason that it is not covered is? |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 5:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
And the reason that it is not covered is? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By oregunner:
Originally Posted By Wipeout:
Originally Posted By Techsan02:
Any way to insure ammo? I tallied up mine the other night, and have $10k in replacement cost. And I know many here have many multiple of that. You're going to have a hard time finding a company to insure a consumable. Just make sure you have a high enough allowance for items on property under your homeowners policy and you should be good to go. I would check with your agent before relying on your HO policy. I checked with mine, he investigated and came back with no, it's not insured. I have a separate policy for it. And the reason that it is not covered is? It is a collection of items that is poorly defined (i.e. you need an inventory that's up to date), it is sometimes regulated by local fire codes (specific limits on what is allowed without a "magazine" that meets specific standards), it is flammable, and it is a collection of consumable items. Some insurers look at this sort of thing as being similar to insuring your canned goods, except that most canned goods aren't flammable... If it were a "collection" with value because of the contents' "collectors value," that might be different. But an ammunition stash is just a big pile of commodity items - only worth the current replacement value (at best) IF it can be enumerated with precision. And it's very difficult to insure something that has a value that changes because you use it up... |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:10:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
<snip> for brevity It is a collection of items that is poorly defined (i.e. you need an inventory that's up to date), it is sometimes regulated by local fire codes (specific limits on what is allowed without a "magazine" that meets specific standards), it is flammable, and it is a collection of consumable items. Some insurers look at this sort of thing as being similar to insuring your canned goods, except that most canned goods aren't flammable... If it were a "collection" with value because of the contents' "collectors value," that might be different. But an ammunition stash is just a big pile of commodity items - only worth the current replacement value (at best) IF it can be enumerated with precision. And it's very difficult to insure something that has a value that changes because you use it up... My question was more based on the basis of telling someone it is not covered, period. I have never seen a homeowners policy which specifically excludes ammo. You are correct that there may be a clause which limits liability in the case of illegal items. But generally speaking, ammo would be considered personal property which is covered under your homeowners policy. (as long as you have coverage for personal property) You are correct that you have to be able to document your loss, but that applies to everything you own. And, unless it has substantial provable collector value, it would only be covered for replacement at current prices. I think that depending where you live, your claims adjuster might be more difficult to deal with. A claims adjuster in rural Texas might be easier to deal with than downtown Manhattan. You could probably document your loss if you got into the habit of taking dated photos on a regular basis. - this is much easier these days with digital cameras. If you are always buying ammo, you should save your receipts. Personal property under a standard homeowners policy is covered on a named peril basis. - i.e. fire, wind, water (other than flood), theft, etc. Other than theft, you will probably have something to show the adjuster as evidence that you had the ammo. (burned casing, etc.) Seems I recall a few years ago someone on the forum here suffered a fire loss and they did not have a problem getting their insurer to pay for the ammo that was lost. But perhaps I am mistaken. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:25:33 PM EDT
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I don't disagree, really. But I have had some pretty unpleasant experiences with homeowners insurance that have given me a different perspective. The only issue with "generic personal property" being insured is that most insurers have a pretty well fixed limit on the value of personal property that is covered, and will often specify "$X for furnishings, $Y for clothing, etc..." They aren't necessarily going to cover anything they can't see was actually there (as in having an inventory), and the potential for a policy to not cover flammable items in bulk is always there.
My current insurer recommended that we look into additional coverage for high value items (like guns, jewelry, and so on) because that provides better, more specific coverage than their already pretty darn good "personal property" coverage. And remember that most insurance companies are in the business of NOT paying out when they can avoid it. If (God forbid) your house burns down and you tell the adjuster "I had $12,500 worth of ammunition in the storage room," your adjuster may report that verbatim, but the claims people (corporate office clowns) could easily say that the ammunition may have contributed to the damage to the house in the fire and reduce your payout even more. That's why I think it's ALWAYS better to get specific coverage rather than expecting that your basic homeowner's insurance will cover everything to a reasonable percentage of its value. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:33:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
I don't disagree, really. But I have had some pretty unpleasant experiences with homeowners insurance that have given me a different perspective. The only issue with "generic personal property" being insured is that most insurers have a pretty well fixed limit on the value of personal property that is covered, and will often specify "$X for furnishings, $Y for clothing, etc..." They aren't necessarily going to cover anything they can't see was actually there (as in having an inventory), and the potential for a policy to not cover flammable items in bulk is always there. My current insurer recommended that we look into additional coverage for high value items (like guns, jewelry, and so on) because that provides better, more specific coverage than their already pretty darn good "personal property" coverage. And remember that most insurance companies are in the business of NOT paying out when they can avoid it. If (God forbid) your house burns down and you tell the adjuster "I had $12,500 worth of ammunition in the storage room," your adjuster may report that verbatim, but the claims people (corporate office clowns) could easily say that the ammunition may have contributed to the damage to the house in the fire and reduce your payout even more. That's why I think it's ALWAYS better to get specific coverage rather than expecting that your basic homeowner's insurance will cover everything to a reasonable percentage of its value. I don't disagree that some insurer's can be a pain in the a$$. and items of unusual value should definately have a separate policy. Firearms usually have a limit of coverage for theft. (like $2,500 - 5,000) I did find this archived thread. A few different people discussed losing guns and ammo in house fires and other than a pain in the a$$ to document, no one said their insurer denied coverage for ammo. -or- lowered coverage for ammo, primers or gunpowder contributing to the damage. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 1:50:14 PM EDT
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Like I said, I'm cynical about insurance, and I like to make sure that what I think is covered really IS covered. Assuming everything in the house is covered to what you think its value is is asking for trouble. It's better to ask your agent before you need to file a claim than to find out you don't have a way to prove what you had before a loss.
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Posted: 12/13/2015 3:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
Like I said, I'm cynical about insurance, and I like to make sure that what I think is covered really IS covered. Assuming everything in the house is covered to what you think its value is is asking for trouble. It's better to ask your agent before you need to file a claim than to find out you don't have a way to prove what you had before a loss. and that is assuming that the agent actually knows what is covered under the policy. 
and it ain't necessarily so. 
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Posted: 12/13/2015 6:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
and that is assuming that the agent actually knows what is covered under the policy.
and it ain't necessarily so. Too true. Sad to say, but very true. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/18/2015 3:09:13 PM EDT
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Collectable Insurance covers guns, ammo, and accessories. Not only in your home, but in your car, other properties, and in transit if mailing a firearm for services, etc.
I have used them for a few years and they are great. You need to have some proof such as photos, receipts, etc. I just take photos of everything I have with some detail and that is good enough. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/18/2015 3:54:28 PM EDT
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Any of you guys using the Gun Log app to track your guns, magazines, and ammo? I've been using it for about a month - sure beats using a spreadsheet.
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USA
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Posted: 12/23/2015 5:23:42 PM EDT
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Not much of a hoard, but enough for the rest of my life and then some.
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Posted: 12/24/2015 3:00:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rolex_John: Any of you guys using the Gun Log app to track your guns, magazines, and ammo? I've been using it for about a month - sure beats using a spreadsheet. I rely on memory, it's still pretty good |
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Posted: 12/24/2015 3:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1saxman:
Not much of a hoard, but enough for the rest of my life and then some. <a href="http://s209.photobucket.com/user/INLAND44/media/Guns/ammobox2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb27/INLAND44/Guns/ammobox2.jpg</a> How old are you? 90 or so? |
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Posted: 12/24/2015 3:33:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime:
How old are you? 90 or so? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By 1saxman:
Not much of a hoard, but enough for the rest of my life and then some. <a href="http://s209.photobucket.com/user/INLAND44/media/Guns/ammobox2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb27/INLAND44/Guns/ammobox2.jpg</a> How old are you? 90 or so? Haha, you beat me to it!! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2015 12:33:32 AM EDT
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More pics, less talk!
I've managed to double my stash since March. Still a long way off from where I want to be. .22LR - 7,130rds 12 ga - 1,030rds 9mm - 3,000rds .223/5.56 - 1,850rds 7.62x54R - 1,320rds 7.62x51 - 300rds .45ACP - 100rds Total - 14,735rds 
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MN, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2015 9:39:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hamms]
[#21]
I've added a few more cans since this pic.
15K of 9mm, 10K of 5.56, and 12K of a few random calibers. Add in 20K of rimfire. 
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Posted: 12/26/2015 11:13:18 AM EDT
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Would not want to move that !
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2015 11:32:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shiff]
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Ordered just before the latest price jumps.
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Posted: 12/26/2015 12:47:12 PM EDT
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I am always amazed at the money spent when I see this thread ha ha!
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2015 1:21:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ARShooter91]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunowner99:
Would not want to move that ! I'd be happy...no stoked to move that into the back of my truck!! 
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Posted: 12/26/2015 1:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunowner99:
I am always amazed at the money spent when I see this thread ha ha! The really sad thing? It really wasn't that expensive to build an ammo stash a decade ago. 9mm, $80-$100 per 1000 rounds, [brass cased name brands] .38 special, about the same. .45acp, $150-160 per K brass case. 5.56, I found it for between $110-$130 A K. .308, $120 per K, brass surplus, good stuff for the most part minus any Indian crap. 30-06, somewhere around $80- $100 per 400 rounds. .30 carbine, new S&B, $180 per K, surp US, I could find it for $125-$150 per 1220 or so. .22 bulk, $8 per 500-525. If you hit the net, bought bulk on sale, ammo was so cheap reloading didn't even make sense unless you were looking for accuracy. It just wasn't that hard or expensive to put back a lot for future shooting. |
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Posted: 12/26/2015 2:00:58 PM EDT
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Unfortunately I missed out on that!
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Posted: 12/26/2015 2:05:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunowner99:
Unfortunately I missed out on that! Unfortunately indeed. However, remember those prices when you sometimes see amazing ammo stashes because I'd bet a lot of it was put back in that era. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2015 2:48:21 PM EDT
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Unfortunately I got into shooting 6 years ago at the very tail end of the cheap ammo, so the prices crept up and shelves went bare as I tried to stockpile.
WWB 9mm went from .16/round to .24 in just a few years. Blazer aluminum was .10/round and doubled. Federal 5.56 didn't jump as much, was .25/round all day and jumped to .40/round, but I can find it on sale for .30/round sometimes. 30-30 was .50/round and climbed to .75. CCI .22 was $6/100 and stayed pretty constant, maybe up a buck per 100. The one caliber I'm glad I crammed as much away as possible is 7.5 Swiss GP11. It was .45/round, then .55/round, now it's unobtanium and selling for $1 a round if it's even available. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:03:24 AM EDT
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Boo hoo.
welcome to the machine. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 8:21:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamms:
Unfortunately I got into shooting 6 years ago at the very tail end of the cheap ammo, so the prices crept up and shelves went bare as I tried to stockpile. WWB 9mm went from .16/round to .24 in just a few years. Blazer aluminum was .10/round and doubled. Federal 5.56 didn't jump as much, was .25/round all day and jumped to .40/round, but I can find it on sale for .30/round sometimes. 30-30 was .50/round and climbed to .75. CCI .22 was $6/100 and stayed pretty constant, maybe up a buck per 100. The one caliber I'm glad I crammed as much away as possible is 7.5 Swiss GP11. It was .45/round, then .55/round, now it's unobtanium and selling for $1 a round if it's even available. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamms:
Unfortunately I got into shooting 6 years ago at the very tail end of the cheap ammo, so the prices crept up and shelves went bare as I tried to stockpile. WWB 9mm went from .16/round to .24 in just a few years. Blazer aluminum was .10/round and doubled. Federal 5.56 didn't jump as much, was .25/round all day and jumped to .40/round, but I can find it on sale for .30/round sometimes. 30-30 was .50/round and climbed to .75. CCI .22 was $6/100 and stayed pretty constant, maybe up a buck per 100. The one caliber I'm glad I crammed as much away as possible is 7.5 Swiss GP11. It was .45/round, then .55/round, now it's unobtanium and selling for $1 a round if it's even available. 2009 was not the tail end of cheap ammo, people have been bitching about the good old days of cheap ammo since I have been a member here, and probably before that. An archive search can prove that. Here is an example of the bitching back in 2005 (Steel cased wolf): 9/6/2005 10:21:56 PM End of June bought 1000rds of Wolf for $71.00 Mid July bought 1000rds of Wolf for $75.00 Few weeks ago bought 1000rds of Wolf for $99.74 I hope the prices don't continue too rise. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2016 9:49:30 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime:
The really sad thing? It really wasn't that expensive to build an ammo stash a decade ago. 9mm, $80-$100 per 1000 rounds, [brass cased name brands] .38 special, about the same. .45acp, $150-160 per K brass case. 5.56, I found it for between $110-$130 A K. .308, $120 per K, brass surplus, good stuff for the most part minus any Indian crap. 30-06, somewhere around $80- $100 per 400 rounds. .30 carbine, new S&B, $180 per K, surp US, I could find it for $125-$150 per 1220 or so. .22 bulk, $8 per 500-525. If you hit the net, bought bulk on sale, ammo was so cheap reloading didn't even make sense unless you were looking for accuracy. It just wasn't that hard or expensive to put back a lot for future shooting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By Gunowner99:
I am always amazed at the money spent when I see this thread ha ha! The really sad thing? It really wasn't that expensive to build an ammo stash a decade ago. 9mm, $80-$100 per 1000 rounds, [brass cased name brands] .38 special, about the same. .45acp, $150-160 per K brass case. 5.56, I found it for between $110-$130 A K. .308, $120 per K, brass surplus, good stuff for the most part minus any Indian crap. 30-06, somewhere around $80- $100 per 400 rounds. .30 carbine, new S&B, $180 per K, surp US, I could find it for $125-$150 per 1220 or so. .22 bulk, $8 per 500-525. If you hit the net, bought bulk on sale, ammo was so cheap reloading didn't even make sense unless you were looking for accuracy. It just wasn't that hard or expensive to put back a lot for future shooting. Yeah my dads friend has 100,000 rounds of .308 and 5.56 that he got for about $17,000 YEARS ago. More aptly decades ago. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2016 1:28:41 PM EDT
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Do you classify as an ammo whore if you play Fallout 4 for a month - this is a video game where you run around a nuclear wasteland opening container after container of ammo and acquiring said ammo from the containers as well as numerous vendors who you buy ammo from, not to mention taking it off dead bodies everywhere you look...and my fake video game character still doesn't have as much 9mm, .45, shotgun, .308, or 5.56mm ammo as I do in real life? :)
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Posted: 1/15/2016 2:50:50 AM EDT
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I really need to show this thread to one of my hippy friends from California.
He thinks my 11 cans full of ammo is way too much, yet never has ammo to shoot is his main complaint 
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:59:16 AM EDT
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After watching the movie Mad Max I prefer the term bullet farmer these days.....LOL
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2016 9:04:36 AM EDT
[#36]
After watching the movie Mad Max I prefer the term bullet farmer these days.....LOL
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2016 4:41:12 PM EDT
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I must be a mid-level whore, I have amassed not quite 100,000 rounds of all calibers that I service...
Doing well on the 22lr these days, we have a new ACADEMY Store and they have a decent run coming in about 3 times a week. Puts Mall-Warts and Gouger Mountain to SHAME!!! 
 Off to read more of the inspiring ammo stores 
I LOVE THIS PLACE!!! Even though I am still "invisible" It is like running thru a big box store after hours, with all the lights on 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2016 9:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
...In other words, our government, bless its greedy, stupid, arrogant heart, is not capable of collecting data on people in such a way to target individuals for a theoretical and not yet introduced ban on ammunition. It would take a huge structure, thousands of suits and billions of dollars to "watch" us, and nobody in Congress is going to go down in history as supporting an expensive program that can't be explained away as really defensive. Look at what happened with the less savory parts of the USA PATRIOT act. No orbiting space wheel mothership is watching your UPS shipments, and nobody is scanning web boards to see if people mention "bad" things. Sure, there ARE surveillance programs looking for specific terms in Internet traffic, but they aren't looking for "look what the UPS guy brought me today!" or "how much M193 can I fit into a 20mm ammo can". They're looking for text that's about real threats-the guys at NSA, for example, are GOOD GUYS. Imagine their job, for a moment; they have to scan millions of recorded minutes every day - recordings their computers have flagged as possible intel sources - and make a decision about what that conversation is about. There's a huge difference between our chatter about "who's an ammo whore" and two guys considering which mall to target, and frankly, we're all pretty much using "clear text" while my Intel buddies mention "lots of talk around" in covert conversations. I'm not worried about Big Brother seeing that I have a bunch of Wolf (Barnaul, actually) ammo. 2 Words: SNOWDEN FILES |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 9:48:23 PM EDT
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I'm an ammo slut...
I shoot it as fast as I can get it.... |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2016 11:27:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thebeekeeper1]
[#40]
<Removed. You need to make yourself familiar with the rules for technical areas of the site. --tbk1>
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Posted: 1/26/2016 11:42:20 PM EDT
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Delete that before someone reports you or a mod see's it
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Posted: 1/31/2016 8:22:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GHPorter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RGRundeRGRound:
2 Words: SNOWDEN FILES Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RGRundeRGRound:
Originally Posted By GHPorter:
...In other words, our government, bless its greedy, stupid, arrogant heart, is not capable of collecting data on people in such a way to target individuals for a theoretical and not yet introduced ban on ammunition. It would take a huge structure, thousands of suits and billions of dollars to "watch" us, and nobody in Congress is going to go down in history as supporting an expensive program that can't be explained away as really defensive. Look at what happened with the less savory parts of the USA PATRIOT act. No orbiting space wheel mothership is watching your UPS shipments, and nobody is scanning web boards to see if people mention "bad" things. Sure, there ARE surveillance programs looking for specific terms in Internet traffic, but they aren't looking for "look what the UPS guy brought me today!" or "how much M193 can I fit into a 20mm ammo can". They're looking for text that's about real threats-the guys at NSA, for example, are GOOD GUYS. Imagine their job, for a moment; they have to scan millions of recorded minutes every day - recordings their computers have flagged as possible intel sources - and make a decision about what that conversation is about. There's a huge difference between our chatter about "who's an ammo whore" and two guys considering which mall to target, and frankly, we're all pretty much using "clear text" while my Intel buddies mention "lots of talk around" in covert conversations. I'm not worried about Big Brother seeing that I have a bunch of Wolf (Barnaul, actually) ammo. 2 Words: SNOWDEN FILES Do you realize that the post you quoted is NINE years old? I still stand behind what I have said; they "can" track a single person's conversations, posts, emails and so on, but it would take ALL of the NSA's resources to do so. That would leave everything else unwatched. I would have to be a VERY important gun nut for NSA to focus on me and ignore Iran, thousands of known terrorists, NutJob III in North Korea, etc. etc. etc. |
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Posted: 1/31/2016 9:45:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
I only use tinfoil for cooking. Seriously. And while yes, NSA "could" use its resources to target individual Americans, there are bigger fish to fry than a bunch of hobbyists openly chatting about their ammo stashes. Do you realize that the post you quoted is NINE years old? I still stand behind what I have said; they "can" track a single person's conversations, posts, emails and so on, but it would take ALL of the NSA's resources to do so. That would leave everything else unwatched. I would have to be a VERY important gun nut for NSA to focus on me and ignore Iran, thousands of known terrorists, NutJob III in North Korea, etc. etc. etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
Originally Posted By RGRundeRGRound:
Originally Posted By GHPorter:
...In other words, our government, bless its greedy, stupid, arrogant heart, is not capable of collecting data on people in such a way to target individuals for a theoretical and not yet introduced ban on ammunition. It would take a huge structure, thousands of suits and billions of dollars to "watch" us, and nobody in Congress is going to go down in history as supporting an expensive program that can't be explained away as really defensive. Look at what happened with the less savory parts of the USA PATRIOT act. No orbiting space wheel mothership is watching your UPS shipments, and nobody is scanning web boards to see if people mention "bad" things. Sure, there ARE surveillance programs looking for specific terms in Internet traffic, but they aren't looking for "look what the UPS guy brought me today!" or "how much M193 can I fit into a 20mm ammo can". They're looking for text that's about real threats-the guys at NSA, for example, are GOOD GUYS. Imagine their job, for a moment; they have to scan millions of recorded minutes every day - recordings their computers have flagged as possible intel sources - and make a decision about what that conversation is about. There's a huge difference between our chatter about "who's an ammo whore" and two guys considering which mall to target, and frankly, we're all pretty much using "clear text" while my Intel buddies mention "lots of talk around" in covert conversations. I'm not worried about Big Brother seeing that I have a bunch of Wolf (Barnaul, actually) ammo. 2 Words: SNOWDEN FILES Do you realize that the post you quoted is NINE years old? I still stand behind what I have said; they "can" track a single person's conversations, posts, emails and so on, but it would take ALL of the NSA's resources to do so. That would leave everything else unwatched. I would have to be a VERY important gun nut for NSA to focus on me and ignore Iran, thousands of known terrorists, NutJob III in North Korea, etc. etc. etc. I prefer to think of myself more of an ammo horder who likes to not kiss and tell so to speak.
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Posted: 2/1/2016 9:57:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oregunner:
I prefer to think of myself more of an ammo horder who likes to not kiss and tell so to speak. That sounds exactly like me. I might have some, somewhere....
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Posted: 2/2/2016 9:03:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snakeman48: That sounds exactly like me. I might have some, somewhere.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snakeman48: Originally Posted By oregunner: I prefer to think of myself more of an ammo horder who likes to not kiss and tell so to speak. That sounds exactly like me. I might have some, somewhere.... I just sold all of mine.... |
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Posted: 2/2/2016 5:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZfastshooter:Yeah my dads friend has 100,000 rounds of .308 and 5.56 that he got for about $17,000 YEARS ago. More aptly decades ago.
$170 per thousand would be great nowadays, but not necessarily 'great' decades ago; depending on what it is of course. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:21:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3D-Seth:
I just sold all of mine....
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3D-Seth:
Originally Posted By snakeman48:
Originally Posted By oregunner:
I prefer to think of myself more of an ammo horder who likes to not kiss and tell so to speak. That sounds exactly like me. I might have some, somewhere....
I just sold all of mine....
Whats a Whore? 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:39:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mybronco2:
Whats a Whore?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mybronco2:
Originally Posted By 3D-Seth:
Originally Posted By snakeman48:
Originally Posted By oregunner:
I prefer to think of myself more of an ammo horder who likes to not kiss and tell so to speak. That sounds exactly like me. I might have some, somewhere....
I just sold all of mine....
Whats a Whore?
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Posted: 2/5/2016 6:49:51 PM EDT
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Oh, for the days when reservists would come in to the shop with sealed 50cal cans chock full of WCC M855 and want to sell them for $50..................I think I still have 2 left at the bottom of the pile........that was before you could even buy it on the civilian market.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 7:42:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t44e6:
Oh, for the days when reservists would come in to the shop with sealed 50cal cans chock full of WCC M855 and want to sell them for $50..................I think I still have 2 left at the bottom of the pile........that was before you could even buy it on the civilian market. So, you bought stolen property? 
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