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Posted: 10/23/2014 5:31:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 6:49:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Can't wait to see more info on it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 7:47:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Looks good.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:05:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Will their be a list of compatible rails? Or more specifically, will it be compatible with the BCM KMR rail?
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:43:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks to be the most rail "friendly" retro fit system to date, sure looks promising.  I'm interested to see whats going on inside that gas block,  mainly if there is a return spring for the op rod that is subject to the heat from the gas.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 9:34:30 PM EDT
[#5]
What's the weight?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 12:36:23 AM EDT
[#6]
More importantly , will it fit under the DD rails
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 9:20:50 AM EDT
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KMR inside diameter ~1.3"

Height of Syrac Gas Piston Block, 1.599"

ETA, it might fit under the rail portion. Looks like they are using a BAR/MCSR V2 in the photograph.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 2:15:46 PM EDT
[#8]
What the diameter difference in those two rails?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:52:42 AM EDT
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The Seekins/Rainier/Spikes is ~1.5" ID.

The Vltor clamp on gas block fits under a KMR 15. It is 0.600" below the barrel centerline and 0.880" above the barrel centerline. It fits with plenty of room up top.

There might be enough room on the KMR to accommodate the extra 0.106" hight of the Syrac gasblock, as compared to the Vltor.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:55:23 PM EDT
[#10]
How are you dealing with carrier tilt?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:57:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2014 1:21:01 PM EDT
[#12]
I like this system.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 5:00:26 PM EDT
[#13]
If this fits under a kmr I will be definitely interested.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 5:47:17 PM EDT
[#14]
Will there be other sizes?  .625, .875, and .930?
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 6:02:14 AM EDT
[#15]
I agree. If this fits under a kmr or nsr I'll buy 2!
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 6:24:54 AM EDT
[#16]
If this fits the KMR I'll likely end up getting 3 :D
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 4:10:30 PM EDT
[#17]
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This is the most important question !!!!!

If it does, I'll take two!
Link Posted: 10/28/2014 3:13:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/28/2014 6:54:20 PM EDT
[#19]
If y'all would do me the honor of sending me one for testing I'd be happy to tell you if it's compatible with the KMR and do a write-up :)
Link Posted: 10/28/2014 9:18:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/29/2014 12:58:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Looks good.. I was thinking of removing my Adams Arms kit and switching it back to a DI gun, but this may just replace the Adams Arms.
Link Posted: 10/29/2014 1:05:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Very neat. I see using this to finely tune a SBR.
Link Posted: 10/29/2014 1:13:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/29/2014 1:17:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/29/2014 2:19:30 PM EDT
[#25]
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Thank you. The great thing is you can fine tune any barrel length and gas configuration.
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Thank you. The great thing is you can fine tune any barrel length and gas configuration.


No doubt. I'm just envisioning a very smooth shooting and relatively clean 10.3" rifle.
Link Posted: 10/29/2014 3:10:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/29/2014 3:22:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Will this be available in sizes besides .750?
Link Posted: 10/29/2014 3:24:34 PM EDT
[#28]
I was considering an Adams arms kit, since my roommate swears by them (24" 6.5grendel build and a colt m4gery), but the kit wouldn't be compatible with the rails I was looking at. I decided on the Force rail and stumbled upon this thread same day. So with this, my frankenbuild is moving forward.
Link Posted: 10/29/2014 8:21:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Approximately when will the solid set screw version be available?
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 12:16:25 PM EDT
[#30]
Any chance of a Left handed bolt carrier?
Please???????

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Link Posted: 10/31/2014 2:05:41 AM EDT
[#31]
I am currently using an RIS ii 12'' non fsb. guess I'm sticking with DI. maybe sometime in the future when I finally get around to finishing my next rifle I will use a different rail. Been looking into the piston setups for a while but haven't found one to work with my DD rail. looks like a much more usable system than AA's new piston system that actually does not work with most rails like they originally claimed.
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 10:25:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Is there going to be a retro gas key available in a kit anytime?
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 10:52:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 11/1/2014 11:27:01 AM EDT
[#34]
Any chance you will bring out a 308 version? or possibly a railed gas block version?
Link Posted: 11/1/2014 2:12:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 11/1/2014 3:08:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Why was the print with gas block profile deleted?
I cannot check if it fits my handguard
Link Posted: 11/1/2014 3:23:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/1/2014 4:27:33 PM EDT
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We are pushing to have the .308 system available to ship by the end of Dec. early Jan. We are machining the carriers now. Then the carriers need to go to heattreat, then Ion Bond. We are working to have them on the site for preorders by the end of Nov. We will announce when they are on our site for preorder in the New Products forum.

As for a gas block with a rail, it depends on market interest. A large percentage of the market are running handguards over there block. How many ARCOMers want a gas block with a rail?
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Any chance you will bring out a 308 version? or possibly a railed gas block version?



We are pushing to have the .308 system available to ship by the end of Dec. early Jan. We are machining the carriers now. Then the carriers need to go to heattreat, then Ion Bond. We are working to have them on the site for preorders by the end of Nov. We will announce when they are on our site for preorder in the New Products forum.

As for a gas block with a rail, it depends on market interest. A large percentage of the market are running handguards over there block. How many ARCOMers want a gas block with a rail?


Or even better would be a permanent folding sight block to use with the piston set for those who use rails with sections cut for the fsp. I currently use a DD lite rail 9.5"fsb with the A.R.M.S folding sight block and love the setup.
Link Posted: 11/1/2014 5:12:33 PM EDT
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I do want a railed system .
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We are pushing to have the .308 system available to ship by the end of Dec. early Jan. We are machining the carriers now. Then the carriers need to go to heattreat, then Ion Bond. We are working to have them on the site for preorders by the end of Nov. We will announce when they are on our site for preorder in the New Products forum.

As for a gas block with a rail, it depends on market interest. A large percentage of the market are running handguards over there block. How many ARCOMers want a gas block with a rail?
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Any chance you will bring out a 308 version? or possibly a railed gas block version?



We are pushing to have the .308 system available to ship by the end of Dec. early Jan. We are machining the carriers now. Then the carriers need to go to heattreat, then Ion Bond. We are working to have them on the site for preorders by the end of Nov. We will announce when they are on our site for preorder in the New Products forum.

As for a gas block with a rail, it depends on market interest. A large percentage of the market are running handguards over there block. How many ARCOMers want a gas block with a rail?

Link Posted: 11/1/2014 10:03:37 PM EDT
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No. We will only offer the kit with one piece carriers.

The pressed on pin design fails. The only non-one piece carrier that holds up is the dovetail style like LWRC used to offer.
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No. We will only offer the kit with one piece carriers.

The pressed on pin design fails. The only non-one piece carrier that holds up is the dovetail style like LWRC used to offer.



Copy, will there be a NiB coating option for the carriers then?
Link Posted: 11/2/2014 12:56:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2014 1:28:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 11/3/2014 5:16:20 AM EDT
[#43]
What does the weight include?
Link Posted: 11/3/2014 11:23:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Same question, what does the listed weight include?  As listed, if its the entire system, thats lighter than your ultra-light adjustable block plus SA BCG with gas tube.

If those numbers are the entire system, this may go on my current lightweight build, which coincidentally is just waiting until christmas for a BCG and gas block to be complete.
Link Posted: 11/3/2014 2:26:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2014 5:25:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Finish is QPQ?
Link Posted: 11/3/2014 10:17:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Smart design Jason. Long time I have been waiting to see this. Well done.
Link Posted: 11/4/2014 12:41:12 AM EDT
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It includes all the parts you need to install on your rifle: Gas Block, Spring, Piston Rod, Gas Plug, and Carrier.
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It includes all the parts you need to install on your rifle: Gas Block, Spring, Piston Rod, Gas Plug, and Carrier.


Nice. This is really tempting. Just 3.5oz and ~$60 away from my DI system (SLR Sentry 7, 1oz buffer, AA Low mass carrier, .308 suppressor)

I used to have the Adams Arms XLP system. I scrapped it for the weight. the 5 position adjustment made me run a standard buffer. With this, I can run the 1oz buffer I have now due to more adjustments.

An optional carrier strike face or low mass carrier would sell me, but I will think about it for now :)

You guys should make a video!
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 5:49:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Sooo, phosphate then?
Link Posted: 11/8/2014 1:52:18 AM EDT
[#50]
I too have dumped my AA XLP kit. It was a pain to make it compatible with a my MI rail. I worry about how long it would keep running before issues with the rod bushing.
Main reasons for switching over to this:
1. Compatibility! SO has a superior design.
2. WEIGHT. the AA XLP kit is heavy as shit.
3. 16 pos vs 5 pos. I tried the xlp on two of my rifles. One had to run wide open. Recoil was increased over my SO adjustable gas block.
4. Price.

Jason, I already pre ordered as one of the first 100. I want to upgrade to NIB!!! PM me for my email! Also, is there a light weight carrier option?
This will go on my santan upper and lower, i will post pics once I verify it is reliable. Thanks!
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