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Posted: 3/19/2009 6:45:15 AM EDT
AAR-Ares Automatic Rifle Upper receiver.
THIS IS THE LAST TWO DAYS 0OF INTRODUCTORY PRICING, MONDAY THE PRICE G0ES T0 MSRP OF $2995.00 INTRO PRICING IS ONLY ON THE LAST 4 UPPERS I HAVE ON HAND. This is the Upper Receiver ONLY. The rifle lower and bipod are not included and are shown for illustrative purposes only. Standard Model 
Railed Model 
AAR-Ares Automatic Rifle Lightweight Individual Automatic Rifle for squad support. The AAR™ is an upper receiver “performance upgrade kit” to existing AR15/M16 and M4 weapons and is designed for rapid and sustained engagement of point and area targets. The Ares Defense AAR™ is a member of the Shrike 5.56 –Advanced Weapons System™ family and features a quick-change barrel with short-stroke piston and adjustable gas regulator. MIL-STD-1913 optics mount on top cover is standard and the system can be equipped with optional MIL-STD-1913 rail interface handguard for mounting of current accessories. Weapon feeds from both 30 and 100 round magazines and can be user configured in minutes to patented dual-feed system with optional belt-feed module. 
AAR-Ares Automatic Rifle pictured with 100 round BETA C-Mag and quick-change barrels. Barrels shown are 12.5”, 14.5”, 16.25” and 20” lengths 
Defense prides itself on quality and attention to detail in all of its products and it’s AAR™ is no exception. Manufactured of the highest quality aircraft alloys, all aluminum surfaces are hardcoat Ares -anodize finished per MIL-A-8625 Type III, Class 2 for corrosion and wear resistance. Pictured at center is the barrel release lever which permits a barrel change in as little as 3 seconds! 
Further attention to detail in the Ares Defense AAR™ is visible in this image showing the rear sight, top-cover release button and folding charging handle. Note the fit and finish between parts and that all sharp corners have a radius where appropriate to protect the operator. 
The gas block, gas regulator and front sight assembly of the Ares Defense AAR™. Front sight is adjustable for both elevation and windage and can be removed altogether if necessary. The 4-position gas regulator is adjustable for belt-feed 1, belt-feed 2, a reduced-flow magazine/suppressor setting and a gas cut-off setting to prevent the weapon from automatically cycling when desirable. The counter bore visible in the handguard’s front bulkhead (behind the front sight block) is designed to accept a quick-detach, top-mounted ambidextrous sling swivel. 
AAR-Ares Automatic Rifle is supported by the optional bipod when the quick-change barrel is removed. Pictured is the standard 16.25” and optional 12.5” barrel. Thick insulated lower hanguard liner is provided to protect the operator’s hand from the high heat associated with sustained automatic firing. The top of the alloy handguard is well ventilated to permit faster heat dispersion during hard use. 
Details of the Ares Defense AAR™ barrels are shown in this close-up of the gas block assemblies. As noted elsewhere, each quick-change barrel has its own piston, cylinder, gas regulator and adjustable front sight assembly. Each gas block is also factory prepared with a receptacle for an optional hot barrel removal handle. 
The robust bolt and barrel extension of the Ares Defense Shrike 5.56™ are used in the Ares Defense AAR™. Notice the lugs on both parts are thicker and designed with a tangent radius profile for increased strength, safety and durability. Manufactured of the highest grade super-alloys and heat treated to exact specifications, these critical parts are specifically designed to handle tremendous amounts of sustained automatic firing from a belt-fed weapon. 
The gas regulator and piston are readily removed from the front of the Shrike 5.56/AAR™ gas block for routine cleaning and maintenance. A cartridge may be used to assist with the rotation of the regulator if carbon deposits build up during hard use. 
Disassembly of the Ares Defense AAR™ bolt carrier group is simple and intuitive to anyone with field-stripping experience on an AR15/M16/M4 weapon. The high-mass bolt carrier slows the weapon’s cycle rate for increased performance and controllability while featuring an integral impact lug for durability 
Complete disassembly and reassembly of the Ares Defense AAR™ is simple and accomplished in minutes without the use of any tools, other than a single 5.56x45mm cartridge. Designed for hard use, the modular AAR™ (a member of the Shrike 5.56 – Advanced Weapons System™ family) provides the modern operator with the adaptive firepower necessary to prevail on today’s battlefield These Uppers are available for pre-order on the website. I have only 11 coming in Monday's shipment. 5 Standard and 6 Railed Models, one of which is mine |
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Posted: 3/19/2009 6:52:51 AM EDT
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What about the belt-feed parts?
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Posted: 3/19/2009 6:56:59 AM EDT
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What about the belt-feed parts? The will be available in the near future. Pricing is still not settled but should be between $2500 to $2800 for the kit. Additional barrels are currently $885 but the price on them may be lower once there is some economy of scale in making them. |
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Posted: 3/19/2009 8:34:19 PM EDT
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how beneficial would this be for a semi-auto?
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Posted: 3/20/2009 7:43:15 AM EDT
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Tried to order one but it did not let me.
Got it to work. Thanks. Do you get both barrels? |
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Posted: 3/20/2009 8:12:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2009 10:56:53 AM EDT
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Have the original shrike customers had their belt-fed units delivered?
When will belt fed conversion be available? Is this guaranteed? I need solid, honest answers to those questions before ordering a 3000$ upper. |
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Posted: 3/20/2009 10:56:53 AM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 3/20/2009 1:12:35 PM EDT
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Have the original shrike customers had their belt-fed units delivered? When will belt fed conversion be available? Is this guaranteed? I need solid, honest answers to those questions before ordering a 3000$ upper. Simmer down stud. I don't work for ARES so I can't answer for them. I guarantee my customers who order will have their AAR's shipped next week, 
If you don't want to order one that is your choice. |
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Posted: 3/20/2009 3:05:53 PM EDT
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Denny,
Can I get on a list for the Belt Feed adaptor? Thanks |
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Posted: 3/20/2009 4:38:41 PM EDT
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Can you get the Bi-pod??
If so how much |
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Posted: 3/20/2009 6:41:11 PM EDT
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Can you get the Bi-pod?? If so how much Thats just a Vera-pod Raptor. Looks cooler then it works. |
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Posted: 3/20/2009 7:44:43 PM EDT
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Can you get the Bi-pod?? If so how much Thats just a Vera-pod Raptor. Looks cooler then it works. Oh really?? They do look pretty cool. Whats wrong with them?? |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 12:13:39 AM EDT
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ollllll yea
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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:07:18 AM EDT
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1. Is the 16.25" barrel chrome lined ?
2. Do they come with a "Full Auto" carrier ? Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/21/2009 8:49:00 PM EDT
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Can you get the Bi-pod?? If so how much Thats just a Vera-pod Raptor. Looks cooler then it works. Oh really?? They do look pretty cool. Whats wrong with them?? Lots of wobble, heavy, cheaply made. Get a Harris. |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 5:34:56 AM EDT
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1. Is the 16.25" barrel chrome lined ? 2. Do they come with a "Full Auto" carrier ? Thanks. Yes and yes |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 5:36:02 AM EDT
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Can you get the Bi-pod?? If so how much Thats just a Vera-pod Raptor. Looks cooler then it works. Oh really?? They do look pretty cool. Whats wrong with them?? Lots of wobble, heavy, cheaply made. Get a Harris. I agree. Iam going to use a Harris on a Larue QD with mine. Sturdy and light |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 5:36:56 AM EDT
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Denny, Can I get on a list for the Belt Feed adaptor? Thanks Sure. Just call me. |
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Posted: 3/22/2009 8:14:04 AM EDT
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The side charging handle looks like it would preclude the use of the LMT SOPMOD, Vltor, or Magul stock with improved cheek weld and battery compartments.. This came up years ago when we talked about the Shrike, well I hope to get my Shrike one day, seeing Ares may be moving the direction that may benefit the delivery of it.
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Posted: 3/22/2009 3:26:25 PM EDT
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Can civilians purchase this too?
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Posted: 3/22/2009 5:04:04 PM EDT
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The side charging handle looks like it would preclude the use of the LMT SOPMOD, Vltor, or Magul stock with improved cheek weld and battery compartments.. This came up years ago when we talked about the Shrike, well I hope to get my Shrike one day, seeing Ares may be moving the direction that may benefit the delivery of it. Sure |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 4:08:19 PM EDT
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Looking forward to it Denny
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Posted: 3/24/2009 11:53:39 AM EDT
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Shipping today?
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Posted: 3/24/2009 1:00:28 PM EDT
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TAG baby, TAG!!!!
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Posted: 3/26/2009 3:18:11 PM EDT
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I guarantee my customers who order will have their AAR's shipped next week,
Can we get an update please? |
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Posted: 3/26/2009 5:57:41 PM EDT
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TAG baby, TAG!!!! Geoff at ARES shipped them UPS ground yesterday from FL. They will be in next week early and they are boxed and ready to go the day they arrive
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Posted: 3/27/2009 5:06:27 AM EDT
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Cool......kind of wish I hadn't been so quick to buy the STG556. Oh well that's what overtime is for..
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Posted: 4/1/2009 9:50:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2009 10:08:38 AM EDT
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Denny,
I have another question and I didn't want to clog up your add in the EE with questions or get you or myself into trouble over BTT violations. I realize that you don't work for Ares so you may not know the answer... Is Ares going to continue to put out AAR uppers or was this a limited batch run? Like others who may be interested, I'm only wanting this to use as a belt-fed upper and knowing Ares past is somewhat of a turn off. I'd personally rather wait until the belt-fed conversions come out before I purchase, but if/when those come available, I want to ensure that these AARs will still be available. Or of course, by that time the belt-fed Shrike may be available by itself... I don't know what to do at this point. Also... How long have you been in NKC? I grew up in Parkville but my grandfather and father owned Vesto TV which was located where the print shop is now (the 1900 block of Clay, right on the corner of Clay and 20th). My grandparents lived in the apartment above Vesto. I remember your shop used to be a sports equipment shop and I bought my first catchers mit from there. That was probably around 1989 or so. Take Care |
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Posted: 4/6/2009 4:21:04 PM EDT
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Denny, I have another question and I didn't want to clog up your add in the EE with questions or get you or myself into trouble over BTT violations. I realize that you don't work for Ares so you may not know the answer... Is Ares going to continue to put out AAR uppers or was this a limited batch run? Like others who may be interested, I'm only wanting this to use as a belt-fed upper and knowing Ares past is somewhat of a turn off. I'd personally rather wait until the belt-fed conversions come out before I purchase, but if/when those come available, I want to ensure that these AARs will still be available. Or of course, by that time the belt-fed Shrike may be available by itself... I don't know what to do at this point. Also... How long have you been in NKC? I grew up in Parkville but my grandfather and father owned Vesto TV which was located where the print shop is now (the 1900 block of Clay, right on the corner of Clay and 20th). My grandparents lived in the apartment above Vesto. I remember your shop used to be a sports equipment shop and I bought my first catchers mit from there. That was probably around 1989 or so. Take Care The AARs will be an ongoing project. Supply will be steady. I also want the belt fed. I wilol be happy with mags until they are readily available.. I have been shooting belt feds for years and don't particularly enjoy loading belts and the mag option is a great one when you want to shoot and don't have time/inclination to load belts.
I have been here since 1980. I bought this building 12 years ago and moved the gun shop in. I remember Vesto well a bought a couple of TVs there.
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Posted: 4/6/2009 8:48:02 PM EDT
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Denny, I have another question and I didn't want to clog up your add in the EE with questions or get you or myself into trouble over BTT violations. I realize that you don't work for Ares so you may not know the answer... Is Ares going to continue to put out AAR uppers or was this a limited batch run? Both the AAR and AAR/C are major pieces of the Shrike 5.56 - Advanced Weapons System program and are intended for continuous production. Also Posted By Magoo6541:
Like others who may be interested, I'm only wanting this to use as a belt-fed upper and knowing Ares past is somewhat of a turn off. I'd personally rather wait until the belt-fed conversions come out before I purchase, but if/when those come available, I want to ensure that these AARs will still be available. Or of course, by that time the belt-fed Shrike may be available by itself... I don't know what to do at this point. First, only you can assess your weapon needs; but if you're only interested in the belt-fed component of the program then you may be significantly limiting your options. As I mentioned already, both the AAR and AAR/C are major pieces, each by their own merits. Second, if you're turned off about Ares' "past" then I'm quite sure you may have received your "facts" from some anonymous mudslinging on the internet, because the real story is much more interesting and honorable. To understand the Shrike 5.56 - Advanced Weapons System program and where we're trying to take it, one should be familiar with a bit of small arms history beginning around World War II and leading right up into present-day military tactics and requirements. Time constraints prevent my narration of the history, but I do recommend strongly that anyone interested in this topic purchase a few significant books; Ed Ezell's "The Great Rifle Controversy" and "Small Arms of the World" 10th and 12th Editions. Also, the 5-volume set of "The Machine Gun" by Col. George Chinn. These specific books cover a lot of ground although there are many, many more must-read books that belong in every student's small arms reference library and which will help complete the understanding of modern small arms evolution. The Cadillac Gage - Stoner 63/63A Weapons System also played a big role in events, as do major pieces of legislation such as the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. As for the part on the Shrike 5.56 - Advanced Weapons System, I'll provide some insight into our company's agenda and the benchmarks we've established with this increadibly modular design. The evolution of the Shrike 5.56 hasn't happened overnight and the story won't be told in one setting either. This is an ongoing program and many details will be necessarily left out due to competitive concerns and confidentiality agreements with customers and business associates. I'll attempt to attach our 2009 brochure to this post as a reference and visual aid. Also, please try to show patience. My day job comes first and I may go many days without contributing here depending on my real obligations. Denny, if at anytime you feel that your thread is being hijacked either by me or anyone else, then please let me know and we'll either cease the discussion or move it elsewhere. Finally, I'd like to thank the Avilla's and moderators for providing the ar15.com forums so that we can share our interests in a responsible and mature manner. The pictures may be small, but if you right click on each and save to your desktop, then you should be able to view in more detail. Have a good evening; I'll try to make it back in tomorrow night. 
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Posted: 4/7/2009 7:00:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
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Denny, I have another question and I didn't want to clog up your add in the EE with questions or get you or myself into trouble over BTT violations. I realize that you don't work for Ares so you may not know the answer... Is Ares going to continue to put out AAR uppers or was this a limited batch run? Both the AAR and AAR/C are major pieces of the Shrike 5.56 - Advanced Weapons System program and are intended for continuous production. Also Posted By Magoo6541:
Like others who may be interested, I'm only wanting this to use as a belt-fed upper and knowing Ares past is somewhat of a turn off. I'd personally rather wait until the belt-fed conversions come out before I purchase, but if/when those come available, I want to ensure that these AARs will still be available. Or of course, by that time the belt-fed Shrike may be available by itself... I don't know what to do at this point. First, only you can assess your weapon needs; but if you're only interested in the belt-fed component of the program then you may be significantly limiting your options. As I mentioned already, both the AAR and AAR/C are major pieces, each by their own merits. Second, if you're turned off about Ares' "past" then I'm quite sure you may have received your "facts" from some anonymous mudslinging on the internet, because the real story is much more interesting and honorable. To understand the Shrike 5.56 - Advanced Weapons System program and where we're trying to take it, one should be familiar with a bit of small arms history beginning around World War II and leading right up into present-day military tactics and requirements. Time constraints prevent my narration of the history, but I do recommend strongly that anyone interested in this topic purchase a few significant books; Ed Ezell's "The Great Rifle Controversy" and "Small Arms of the World" 10th and 12th Editions. Also, the 5-volume set of "The Machine Gun" by Col. George Chinn. These specific books cover a lot of ground although there are many, many more must-read books that belong in every student's small arms reference library and which will help complete the understanding of modern small arms evolution. The Cadillac Gage - Stoner 63/63A Weapons System also played a big role in events, as do major pieces of legislation such as the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. As for the part on the Shrike 5.56 - Advanced Weapons System, I'll provide some insight into our company's agenda and the benchmarks we've established with this increadibly modular design. The evolution of the Shrike 5.56 hasn't happened overnight and the story won't be told in one setting either. This is an ongoing program and many details will be necessarily left out due to competitive concerns and confidentiality agreements with customers and business associates. I'll attempt to attach our 2009 brochure to this post as a reference and visual aid. Also, please try to show patience. My day job comes first and I may go many days without contributing here depending on my real obligations. Denny, if at anytime you feel that your thread is being hijacked either by me or anyone else, then please let me know and we'll either cease the discussion or move it elsewhere. Finally, I'd like to thank the Avilla's and moderators for providing the ar15.com forums so that we can share our interests in a responsible and mature manner. The pictures may be small, but if you right click on each and save to your desktop, then you should be able to view in more detail. Have a good evening; I'll try to make it back in tomorrow night. http://www.aresdefense.com/03a-brochure-f.jpg http://www.aresdefense.com/03a-brochure-c.jpg http://www.aresdefense.com/03a-brochure-b.jpg Thank you for your response to the thread. I didn't particuarly mean "knowing Ares past is a turn off" as directly toward your company. It was meant more toward the production of the Shrike over the past couple years. Having a product which is very high in demand and when the company is not being able to produce a significant number of a product, which only drives up the cost, is frustrating for the consumer. I realize that the lack of production isn't necessarly just based on not being able to produce a product but things are being changed and tweaked along the way to manufacture the best product that you can produce. Only good can come of that but again, it's frustrating. To explain my position a little more... I would think that most of the people who are truley interested in your product are machine gun owners. Most of us already own several AR hosts in different configurations. From my personal stand point, while the magazine fed AAR offers a leap forward in the AR design, I can't justify the price tag as I don't believe I would benifit from another magazine fed host for my machine gun. However, when you add in the belt fed part of it, now I'm interested. I'm interested to the point where it's driving me crazy because the product just isn't available at this time. But I think we're beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just want to make sure that when we finally get to the end of the tunnel, everything will be available. Whether it be the AAR and belt fed conversion, or a belt fed Shrike. I just wanted to be sure that if I didn't purchase the AAR today, I wouldn't be shooting myself in the foot 6 months down the road when the belt fed conversions came out and the AAR wouldn't be available. I hope that all makes sence. Again, thank your for your response and thank you for your product. Ryan |
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Posted: 4/13/2009 6:54:30 PM EDT
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Got my ARES upper in today....it sure it a fine piece of work. Looking forward to my belt fed adapter.
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Posted: 4/14/2009 12:41:02 PM EDT
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If you get yours before I get my Shrike for which I put in a deposit iin 2002 or 2003, I'd be very unhappy
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Posted: 4/14/2009 6:31:48 PM EDT
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Looking forward to the belt feed unit
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Posted: 4/15/2009 6:11:05 AM EDT
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Jeff, First off thanks for posting here I hope you will keep us up to date on everything Ares.
Now for a few questions. How many depositors that sent in their $1000.00 dollar down payment(6 or 7 years ago) are still waiting for their Shrike? Any updates on delivery? Is this the same upper as a Shrike upper but without the belt feed? If it is can I send you a part of my $1500.00 balance for one of these uppers and send the rest when the belt feed adapter is ready? What's the best way to update my contact info with you? |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 6:26:42 AM EDT
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I have a silly question as well:
How solid is the top cover? Does it return-to-zero well? How durable is the lock-up going to be, long term? I am concerned with the need for re-zeroing an Aimpoint if I remove the top cover. |
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Posted: 4/15/2009 7:06:51 AM EDT
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Got my ARES upper in today....it sure it a fine piece of work. Looking forward to my belt fed adapter. JERK!!!!!!!!!!! OK cool.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 8:37:31 AM EDT
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can i ask how long you had to wait for these?? i gave them my $$ over 5 years ago and still don't have mine.
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Posted: 4/25/2009 9:34:13 AM EDT
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Interesting.
On a side note, this makes it apparent what parts of the Shrike are hard to get working- the ones not in the AAR. So what is the MSRP on the AAR? |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 10:12:20 AM EDT
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Interesting. On a side note, this makes it apparent what parts of the Shrike are hard to get working- the ones not in the AAR. So what is the MSRP on the AAR? I'll offer another possible reason. The BATFE doesn't like belt fed uppers. M11 conversions ring any bells? By releasing a steady flow of Mag feed only Shrikes Ares is establishing a product on the market that won't draw BATFE scrutiny or a dreaded "revision" of the BATFE's stance on the product. This also allows Ares to establish a customer base for a future belt feed conversion. By offering the upper and the belt feed tray as different products they are making the BATFE work extra hard and evaluate each instead of a complete "evil" belt feed upper. I surmise that if the BATFE were to change it's mind on the legality of belt fed Shrikes, that it is easier for Aries to ask for the Belt Feed trays back and give a non-belt tray as replacement. |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 2:05:57 PM EDT
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Interesting. On a side note, this makes it apparent what parts of the Shrike are hard to get working making- the ones not in the AAR. So what is the MSRP on the AAR? |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 9:44:17 PM EDT
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Interesting. On a side note, this makes it apparent what parts of the Shrike are hard to get working making- the ones not in the AAR. So what is the MSRP on the AAR? It's just a passing rumor I heard but take it for what it's worth. Original Shrikes may have used M249 SAW components in the feed tray assembly, those parts became hard to source and Shrike production was effected. The M249 SAW parts are still unavailable in any quantity at a fair price, so Ares has to make them themselves. The only thing I don't really like is it looks like a lot of people who have been waiting in line since 2001 and even earlier for a Shrike may be getting passed buy people who buy the AAR and later the belt feed tray. 
I do like the option presented but a guy waiting. Allow them to put the deposit on an AAR and they pay the difference and get the feed tray when it comes out. |
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Posted: 4/27/2009 12:12:53 AM EDT
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Hey I really like the looks of the AAR/C model with the side folding stock.
I guess is the recoil spring in the upper similar to the ZM Weapon upper? Can it work on an unmodified RR M-16 lower? I know the ZM Weapon kit had to modify the lower in order to work for full-auto which i didn't like.
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Posted: 4/27/2009 12:43:13 AM EDT
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Hey I really like the looks of the AAR/C model with the side folding stock. I guess is the recoil spring in the upper similar to the ZM Weapon upper? Can it work on an unmodified RR M-16 lower? I know the ZM Weapon kit had to modify the lower in order to work for full-auto which i didn't like.Different operation then ZM, (IE the gas system and op rod assembly are on the left side not the top) but end result is the same. Any lower will work. F/A, S/A, RR, LL, DIAS without any modification to the lower. |
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Posted: 5/17/2009 10:02:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2009 7:41:06 AM EDT
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Is there any news on the belt fed parts yet?
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Posted: 5/18/2009 7:50:12 AM EDT
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Is there any news on the belt fed parts yet? Would you trust anything Ares said at this point? Seriously? |
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Posted: 5/18/2009 8:24:04 AM EDT
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Any lower will work. F/A, S/A, RR, LL, DIAS without any modification to the lower
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Posted: 5/18/2009 8:25:18 AM EDT
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Why can't I add a bipod to my non railed AAR upper like this picture shows?
There is no picatinny rail there??
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