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Posted: 12/16/2021 5:41:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PalmettoStateArmory]
Palmetto State Armory is pleased to announce the merger of NoDak Spud LLC into the JJE family of companies!
Effective Jan 3rd, NoDak Spud will become a subsidiary of Harrington & Richardson. Mike Wetteland, co-owner of NoDak Spud will become the CEO of the newly reformed H&R. Mike brings over 30 years of experience in the firearms industry to our team. As many of you know, Mike’s attention to detail and passion for Retro AR15’s has helped grow our hobby. NoDak Spud will cease all operations at their Edina MN facility Dec 23rd in order to complete ship outs before the end of the year. NoDak Spud will then be relocated to West Columbia SC. All customers that had backorders and/or were on the interested parties list for retro lowers/parts will be notified by Harlan via telephone or email. All NoDak Spud retro parts will be rebranded as H&R. Most of the other NDS products, such as Ruger rifle sights will still be produced. Please be patient as it will take time to spin production back up. NoDak Spud will continue to field calls and emails until we get the H&R website and staff up and running. PLEASE DO NOT call Palmetto State Armory to place pre-orders or make product inquiries as the customer service staff has not been brought up to speed yet. Please be assured that we will do our best to contact everyone on the NoDak lists to give them the opportunity to purchase H&R retro products. Thank you, -Josiah |
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Posted: 11/13/2023 5:11:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: drfroglegs]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: Gray A1 uppers and Slickside uppers are up on PSA right now https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-m16a1-upper-receiver-gray-blem.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-blem-slickside-upper-receiver-gray.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-m16a1-upper-receiver-gray2.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-slickside-upper-receiver-gray.html I love you, no homo. Been trying to get a non-blem A1 upper for months. Finally got me and my brother one! We got the lowers months ago and have been struggling to time it right. Finally got them! Now to figure out where I can buy the correct barrel, triangle handguard, tear drop forward assist, sights, etc. |
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Posted: 11/13/2023 5:39:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: I love you, no homo. Been trying to get a non-blem A1 upper for months. Finally got me and my brother one! We got the lowers months ago and have been struggling to time it right. Finally got them! Now to figure out where I can buy the correct barrel, triangle handguard, tear drop forward assist, sights, etc. Here ya go.  https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-m16a1-style-upper-assmbly-gray-1-12.html |
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Posted: 11/13/2023 5:53:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRedBaron: Here ya go. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-m16a1-style-upper-assmbly-gray-1-12.html Well I'll be damn. I got so excited to see the stripped upper in stock I didn't even look for the complete. I would rather spread out the cost anyways though. Expenses are tight right now. Thanks though! |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2023 7:18:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: I love you, no homo. Been trying to get a non-blem A1 upper for months. Finally got me and my brother one! We got the lowers months ago and have been struggling to time it right. Finally got them! Now to figure out where I can buy the correct barrel, triangle handguard, tear drop forward assist, sights, etc. Check JSE and brownells for the sights and FA. The handguards come down to if you want new or surplus and man I have looked for a 20 inch pencil barrel for a while now and all I find is 'lightweight' barrels. Idk where all the pencil barrels are but they elude me. |
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Posted: 11/13/2023 10:59:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: Check JSE and brownells for the sights and FA. The handguards come down to if you want new or surplus and man I have looked for a 20 inch pencil barrel for a while now and all I find is 'lightweight' barrels. Idk where all the pencil barrels are but they elude me. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Lightweight-Parts-List-with-WEIGHTS-AR-15-/118-638524/ |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 12:20:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Anybody know if H&R has plans to do black 601,602 lowers?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 2:42:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
[#7]
Just received my newly made batch of grey M16A1 complete upper. Overall very good quality, but 2 let down:
1. A1 reproduction port door is shinny black oxidize, not phosphate (Parkerizing). Looks like H&R source this from the same place (Taiwan) that T91 Tactical getting theirs. I will replace this with a Brownells one I keep for other build. I will Parkerize the H&R one later for future use. 2. The port door hinge spring is black finished, not the period correct silver color. Easy to fix by myself, but it is very disappointed for a product sell as period correct reproduction. It is not bashing, try to share my observation and, hopefully, H&R can take note and improve on.  
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Posted: 11/15/2023 4:48:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mtbrass: Anybody know if H&R has plans to do black 601,602 lowers? No black 601's, and no 602 lowers at all. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 5:04:09 PM EDT
[#9]
There are more Gray A1 uppers both normal and blems.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-m16a1-upper-receiver-gray2.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-m16a1-upper-receiver-gray-blem.html There are also Black slickside uppers available that aren't the 9mm version. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-blem-slickside-stripped-upper-receiver-black.html |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 5:40:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: No black 601's, and no 602 lowers at all. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 6:15:48 PM EDT
[#11]
Is there any source for silver port door springs other than Spec. Arm.?
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Posted: 11/15/2023 6:19:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: grondike]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: Is there any source for silver port door springs other than Spec. Arm.? |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 7:19:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 777]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: Just received my newly made batch of grey M16A1 complete upper. Overall very good quality, but 2 let down: 1. A1 reproduction port door is shinny black oxidize, not phosphate (Parkerizing). Looks like H&R source this from the same place (Taiwan) that T91 Tactical getting theirs. I will replace this with a Brownells one I keep for other build. I will Parkerize the H&R one later for future use. 2. The port door hinge spring is black finished, not the period correct silver color. Easy to fix by myself, but it is very disappointed for a product sell as period correct reproduction. I just got my upper too & overall I am pleased. However I agree with what you said. I'd add that the rear sight and adjustment wheel, the selector & bolt release all would be more desirable if they were to be gray too. It's probably a cost saving measure, which I get. Still, I like what I see, having just gotten it yesterday. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 8:50:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: Is there any source for silver port door springs other than Spec. Arm.? I bought some from ar15sport.com https://ar15sport.com/product/ar15-m16-m4-port-door-spring-arpart-87/ |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:37:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mtbrass]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: What is the difference in a 601 and 602 lower? I probably knew at one point, but I have forgotten. Nothing but the marking, I just wanted to build one of each. |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 11:31:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mtbrass: Nothing but the marking, I just wanted to build one of each. There are subtle differences with the smalls parts as well - different shaped bolt catch paddle, buffer tubes have holes, not flats, I think the mag release button has a different face pattern/profile, but I'm often wrong. Just the super nerd stuff we all geek out over. I remember I recently saw an original 601 bolt catch for around $75 somewhere. Mind boggling how people were literally throwing this stuff away at a point when these old guns came through armories and got "modernized". |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 12:50:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jimmyspinn: There are subtle differences with the smalls parts as well - different shaped bolt catch paddle, buffer tubes have holes, not flats, I think the mag release button has a different face pattern/profile, but I'm often wrong. Just the super nerd stuff we all geek out over. I remember I recently saw an original 601 bolt catch for around $75 somewhere. Mind boggling how people were literally throwing this stuff away at a point when these old guns came through armories and got "modernized". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jimmyspinn: Originally Posted By mtbrass: Nothing but the marking, I just wanted to build one of each. There are subtle differences with the smalls parts as well - different shaped bolt catch paddle, buffer tubes have holes, not flats, I think the mag release button has a different face pattern/profile, but I'm often wrong. Just the super nerd stuff we all geek out over. I remember I recently saw an original 601 bolt catch for around $75 somewhere. Mind boggling how people were literally throwing this stuff away at a point when these old guns came through armories and got "modernized". $75 is actually a really good price these days, current price is nearly double at about $130.00 +/-. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2023 4:28:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Can the 601s take these?
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-receivers-parts/m16-model-601-lower-receiver-pivot-pin/ or what other front pins? |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 4:53:37 PM EDT
[#19]
That is the correct front pin for a 601 lower
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USA
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Posted: 11/16/2023 11:19:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: x248716x]
[#20]
this jihadi twat did't get the memo about gray carry handle doesn't match his black lower, definitely a noob faux pas. horrors! but he's got that 3rd pin. face blurred to not offend those easily offended.
 weird FSB gas block. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 11/17/2023 12:44:42 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: this jihadi twat did't get the memo about gray carry handle doesn't match his black lower, definitely a noob faux pas. horrors! but he's got that 3rd pin. face blurred to not offend those easily offended. https://i.imgur.com/mXwdbaE.jpg weird FSB gas block. Click To View Spoiler Maybe a Chinese or Iranian gas block? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2023 11:00:29 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: I bought some from ar15sport.com https://ar15sport.com/product/ar15-m16-m4-port-door-spring-arpart-87/ Forgot to check there. Order placed. Thanks. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/18/2023 10:41:50 AM EDT
[#23]
so those PSA M16Ks huh?
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MD, USA
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Posted: 11/18/2023 8:36:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Stevearado]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigmacVsog: Can the 601s take these? https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-receivers-parts/m16-model-601-lower-receiver-pivot-pin/ or what other front pins? Yes I got one of those pins in my 601 lower. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 3:29:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Finally ordered a 635 upper for my old school PSA/QC10 Colt pattern SBR lower. @mike_nds - is the carrier to upper tolerance meant to be so tight that it doesn't slide freely (even drenched in oil on delivery)? Even the charging handle takes force to take in and out. The finish on the carrier is already wearing off and it just arrived 12min ago lol.
Also, assume the sights are assembled only and not set to a fixed position? My rear is hard left. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 3:40:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PGT_0673: Finally ordered a 635 upper for my old school PSA/QC10 Colt pattern SBR lower. @mike_nds - is the carrier to upper tolerance meant to be so tight that it doesn't slide freely (even drenched in oil on delivery)? Even the charging handle takes force to take in and out. The finish on the carrier is already wearing off and it just arrived 12min ago lol. Also, assume the sights are assembled only and not set to a fixed position? My rear is hard left. I am awaiting a H&R "true" 9mm upper (so take this as you will), but I can say this about the H&R slick side (5.56 used for a 9mm build) I have now and the old school Spikes 9mm upper I have.... Each upper/carrier combination required me to lap the upper and carrier to make them slide smoothly and function properly. I imagine the new H&R upper I am getting today will be the same way. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 3:55:10 PM EDT
[#27]
That would be very disappointing but seems to track with how this was received.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 4:09:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PGT_0673: That would be very disappointing but seems to track with how this was received. So my stripped upper just arrived and I can confirm that it too will require lapping. All of mine, both H&R's and the Spikes, were a bit narrow/pinched around the port door. I have read about this and it makes sense as to why. my suggestion, just get some diamond compound lapping paste from amazon (I have the 500/800/1200 grit combo) and put some on the bolt rails and run it back and forth till it slides on its own. Then clean it really well. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 4:41:07 PM EDT
[#29]
None of our 9mm bolts have had pinching issues in the dedicated 9mm upper halves and carbines we have sent out.
What bolt are you using? |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 5:23:55 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: None of our 9mm bolts have had pinching issues in the dedicated 9mm upper halves and carbines we have sent out. What bolt are you using? For me, I run Faxon Gen 2 9mm bolts and the RTB 9mm bolt. They are both the same style bolt, and both styles had to be lapped to the receivers. My spare Faxon hits a “pinch” on the H&R stripped upper I just received. It’s right at the mid point near the start of the port opening. RTB Bolt Faxon Bolt |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 5:33:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: None of our 9mm bolts have had pinching issues in the dedicated 9mm upper halves and carbines we have sent out. What bolt are you using? complete H&R upper so H&R bolt |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 8:17:30 PM EDT
[#32]
I’d like to get that upper back to see for myself.
PM me your order number and we’ll get a return shipping label set. |
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Posted: 11/23/2023 7:05:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I’d like to get that upper back to see for myself. PM me your order number and we’ll get a return shipping label set. sent |
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USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 8:03:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Not sure if this has been covered in any way but I just put together an A2 clone and A1 clone with H&R uppers, lowers etc. I have a habit of cleaning rifles out before taking them to the range as I have seen the results of when people neglect that. Anyways, both my BCGs had the crane O-Rings, I’ve taken them out as I’ve had mixed luck with my A4 build (BCM) that had the o-ring installed. The extraction tension seemed extremely excessive and that rifle ran great without it. I was curious on other people’s experiences especially with H&Rs stuff since I am assuming H&R uses good port sizes.
PS- I love the retro craze is going strong, thank you H&R! |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2023 9:12:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Mike, please consider a model 605 but in 9mm.....just an idea.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:42:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: drfroglegs]
[#36]
Any idea on when we will see the 20" A1 barrel assemblies in stock again? I don't care if it's 1/7" or 1/12".
I need two of them so my brother and I can complete our build. Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/30/2023 4:57:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:10:28 PM EDT
[#38]
I picked up a 10.5 635 gray upper, gray 635 lower and 3 mags. Had been waiting since seeing it at SHOT.
If you are one of the ones looking for an A1 stripped upper from one of the early runs hit me up. I may be able to help out. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:06:50 PM EDT
[#39]
my 635 upper and mags showed up. Super nice. I cant wait to try it out. The lower still has not shipped kinda strange.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:33:39 PM EDT
[#40]
I sent my 635 upper back per Mike's request and it was replaced quickly. New one is perfect. Since I have an old PA-9, I need to tweak the wings on the feedramp wings per Mike's advice before I can run mine but at least the upper cycles smoothly nice off the lower.
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Posted: 12/8/2023 2:26:40 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: Any idea on when we will see the 20" A1 barrel assemblies in stock again? I don't care if it's 1/7" or 1/12". Thanks! Looking for a couple bare or complete barrels myself |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 5:01:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PGT_0673: I sent my 635 upper back per Mike's request and it was replaced quickly. New one is perfect. Since I have an old PA-9, I need to tweak the wings on the feedramp wings per Mike's advice before I can run mine but at least the upper cycles smoothly nice off the lower. what happened with your 635 upper? was it a10.5? i just got mine and it seems ok but i have not handled it really. the lower shipped today. i just read your post. i take it yours was a 16"? i just assumed the 10.5 were released 11/30 |
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Posted: 12/10/2023 7:41:16 AM EDT
[#43]
733 uppers are live.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2023 9:10:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: 733 uppers are live. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/IMG_1912-3055214.jpg That's awesome Mike! So-if one was going to pick up the upper, which lower would one buy so when doing the form 1, having the correct model and listing the correct model on the form? |
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Posted: 12/10/2023 9:19:59 AM EDT
[#45]
It would be the M16A2 COTS lower we make.
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Posted: 12/10/2023 12:21:09 PM EDT
[#46]
no shaved bayo lug on the 733
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2023 2:05:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PGT_0673: no shaved bayo lug on the 733 733 never have shaved bayo lug from factory. |
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Posted: 12/10/2023 2:25:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PGT_0673]
[#48]
never say never with Colt.
 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2023 7:20:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: It would be the M16A2 COTS lower we make. cool, tku |
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Posted: 12/11/2023 11:45:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Are more 733’s dropping soon? I missed those. They went fast.
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