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Posted: 7/1/2016 4:14:30 PM EDT

I'm really lost on this one ... I have a (transferable) Colt M16A1, 9-mil SN series, that was made in March 1978, according to its Form 2. I'd like to gather as many correct accessories for it as possible.

I know that Colt sometimes shipped bayos with the LE/Export M16s, of which this is one. But what would be the correct bayonet if/when Colt included them, for a 1978 contract? And if anyone knows, how can I ID and source one?

Thanks in advance for any guidance!

Posted: 7/1/2016 5:26:35 PM EDT

[#1]

Maybe this will be of some help.

http://www.imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/uscoltarmalitem16ar15556/m16accessoryitems/bayonets

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Vintage-Imperial-M7Bayonet-Knife-TWB-M8A1-Scabbard-Mint-in-Package-AmhT-/201601078407?hash=item2ef05c5487:g:KdQAAOSwKtVWzTrk

I believe that most M7's were produced RVN era, the last being Imperial 73-74 contract with basic 90 degree run out. Imperial also had a contract up till 84 with a sloped run out. Ontario & Gen Cut would be post 85 time frame. I would guess that "most correct" might be one of the Imperial versions. Just a guess. Hope this helps.

Posted: 7/1/2016 7:42:35 PM EDT

[#2]

You want a Colt stamped 62316 M-7 bayonet. Scabbard is proprietary to this Colt stamped M-7 bayonet withunique texture and no sub contract markings. Pic below. Production 1977-79ish. Thinking they made 80K or such. Numrich under AR-15 accessories or Royal Tiger under parts and accessories should have what you want for around $100 shipped. These were shipped with the export M-16's in 9 millionish serial or came home with the 9 millionish serial export de-mills from late 70's and early 80's.

Posted: 7/1/2016 9:15:39 PM EDT

[#3]

If you do find a Colt with a 90º runout snatch that thing up with a quickness! They are getting hard to find.

Posted: 7/2/2016 4:12:18 PM EDT

[#4]

Thanks, guys! I think I've found one.... Will report when it arrives.

Posted: 7/2/2016 5:04:13 PM EDT

[#5]

European market has been flooded with some colt 613 rifles with 9-mil S/N recently and all are sold with a colt marked m7 bayonet

Posted: 7/2/2016 5:21:49 PM EDT

[#6]

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If you do find a Colt with a 90º runout snatch that thing up with a quickness! They are getting hard to find.

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What does this mean?

Posted: 7/2/2016 8:13:28 PM EDT

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What does this mean?

Earlier M-7 blanks at contour of blade at base sits at 90 degree instead of rounded off like the later produced M-7 blanks. Ontario last production of true USGI M-7 also used the 90 degree blanks. Really not perinent to OP question but there is a difference in edge machining technique.

Tom, see how the blade on the FZR blade is cut vs the later production Colt marked.

As far as I know none of the Colt marked US blades except 601 Armalite/Colt were machined this way. Regardless the Colt bayo pictured is correct for the 77-79 production Colts. I've heard of Colt marked Imperials and most every other blade mfg but never personally seen an authentic one.

Posted: 7/4/2016 1:25:43 AM EDT

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What does this mean?

Earlier M-7 blanks at contour of blade at base sits at 90 degree instead of rounded off like the later produced M-7 blanks. Ontario last production of true USGI M-7 also used the 90 degree blanks. Really not perinent to OP question but there is a difference in edge machining technique.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/cndenmark/DSCN2511_zps8u3g8e6g.jpg

Tom, see how the blade on the FZR blade is cut vs the later production Colt marked.

As far as I know none of the Colt marked US blades except 601 Armalite/Colt were machined this way. Regardless the Colt bayo pictured is correct for the 77-79 production Colts. I've heard of Colt marked Imperials and most every other blade mfg but never personally seen an authentic one.

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If you come across an FZR then snatch that puppy up too. I've actually come across more FZR's then the 90º Colts.

Posted: 7/5/2016 2:01:10 PM EDT

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If you come across an FZR then snatch that puppy up too. I've actually come across more FZR's then the 90º Colts.

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What does this mean?

Earlier M-7 blanks at contour of blade at base sits at 90 degree instead of rounded off like the later produced M-7 blanks. Ontario last production of true USGI M-7 also used the 90 degree blanks. Really not perinent to OP question but there is a difference in edge machining technique.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/cndenmark/DSCN2511_zps8u3g8e6g.jpg

Tom, see how the blade on the FZR blade is cut vs the later production Colt marked.

As far as I know none of the Colt marked US blades except 601 Armalite/Colt were machined this way. Regardless the Colt bayo pictured is correct for the 77-79 production Colts. I've heard of Colt marked Imperials and most every other blade mfg but never personally seen an authentic one.

If you come across an FZR then snatch that puppy up too. I've actually come across more FZR's then the 90º Colts.

I have all makes but the Frazier. I'd sure like to find one. I'd probably trade a GM stock and grip for one, lol...

Posted: 7/5/2016 3:28:48 PM EDT

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If you come across an FZR then snatch that puppy up too. I've actually come across more FZR's then the 90º Colts.

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What does this mean?

Earlier M-7 blanks at contour of blade at base sits at 90 degree instead of rounded off like the later produced M-7 blanks. Ontario last production of true USGI M-7 also used the 90 degree blanks. Really not perinent to OP question but there is a difference in edge machining technique.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/cndenmark/DSCN2511_zps8u3g8e6g.jpg

Tom, see how the blade on the FZR blade is cut vs the later production Colt marked.

As far as I know none of the Colt marked US blades except 601 Armalite/Colt were machined this way. Regardless the Colt bayo pictured is correct for the 77-79 production Colts. I've heard of Colt marked Imperials and most every other blade mfg but never personally seen an authentic one.

If you come across an FZR then snatch that puppy up too. I've actually come across more FZR's then the 90º Colts.

I have five 90 degree Colt's, but no FZR's

Posted: 7/5/2016 5:49:43 PM EDT

[#11]

I actually dont know if I have a 90. Gonna have to check.

Posted: 7/7/2016 9:48:43 AM EDT

[#12]

Yea I've been on the hunt for a 90º Colt that the seller does not think is made of gold.

Luckily for me the very first M7 I bought was an FZR.

My M7 collection plus the oddball M9. A M7 from every US manufacturer. The scabbards are a mixture of M8 and M8A1s with the one M10.

Posted: 7/7/2016 1:55:23 PM EDT

[#13]

Thanks for the pix, svt40! Impressive collection you have!

My two present M7's are a GEN CUT in an M10 scabbard and a BOC in an M8A1 PWH. Any idea when they were made, and the full names of the makers? (Both are 90-degree, FWIW.)

Just trying to figure out which of my guns to match them up with ....

TIA!

My incoming M7 Colt 62316 is not a 90-degree, alas, but looks like it is period-correct for a 1978 M16A1.

Posted: 7/7/2016 2:07:32 PM EDT

[#14]

Boc is Bauer Ord company can cut is General Cutlery boc sixties and seventies gencut 80s 90s

Posted: 7/7/2016 2:36:20 PM EDT

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Boc is Bauer Ord company can cut is General Cutlery boc sixties and seventies gencut 80s 90s

Posted: 7/7/2016 3:18:37 PM EDT

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Thanks for the pix, svt40! Impressive collection you have!

My two present M7's are a GEN CUT in an M10 scabbard and a BOC in an M8A1 PWH. Any idea when they were made, and the full names of the makers? (Both are 90-degree, FWIW.)

Just trying to figure out which of my guns to match them up with ....

TIA!

My incoming M7 Colt 62316 is not a 90-degree, alas, but looks like it is period-correct for a 1978 M16A1.

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Thanks. The time to collect them is now while they are still under $40 for most of them. Colts tend to be close to $100 for the common ones. No idea why... The last FZR I saw for sale went for almost $400. The most expensive M7 I bought was the Colt at $90 and the rest were all $35 or less.

Posted: 7/7/2016 4:26:34 PM EDT

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Boc is Bauer Ord company can cut is General Cutlery boc sixties and seventies gencut 80s 90s

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Cool! Then my incoming Colt M7 will go on my real M16A1, the BOC on my Colt M16A1 clone (below), and the GEN CUT will go on my 590A1.

Posted: 7/7/2016 6:40:53 PM EDT

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Thanks for the pix, svt40! Impressive collection you have!

My two present M7's are a GEN CUT in an M10 scabbard and a BOC in an M8A1 PWH. Any idea when they were made, and the full names of the makers? (Both are 90-degree, FWIW.)

Just trying to figure out which of my guns to match them up with ....

TIA!

My incoming M7 Colt 62316 is not a 90-degree, alas, but looks like it is period-correct for a 1978 M16A1.

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I like this website when it comes to information about US military bayonets. Most of the information you are looking for could probably be found here.

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/m4_thru_m7_series/m4_m7_series_p2.html

Posted: 7/7/2016 10:40:53 PM EDT

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Thanks! That is a great link!

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