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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:53:23 PM EDT
We are blowing out our C7 stripped uppers for anyone interested.
Add to cart! And as always over $50 is free shipping on the web! |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:58:15 PM EDT
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We are blowing out our A1 stripped uppers for anyone interested.
Add to cart! And as always over $50 is free shipping on the web! Damn thats cheap!! A2 uppers for $65 as well guys |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:03:31 PM EDT
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We are blowing out our A1 stripped uppers for anyone interested.
Add to cart! And as always over $50 is free shipping on the web! Great price but those are NOT A1 receivers..... They are referred to as C7 uppers, you could call them dogsh*t for all I care, the price is very good. I won't be buying any because I refuse to buy DPMS parts, after your Freedom Group made me wait 14 months for a barrel. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:12:48 PM EDT
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Those are not A1 receivers and I hate it when manufacturers and retailers refer to them as such, since it creates confusion to people who dont know any better.
My question is: Do you not know any better, or are you trying to prey upon people that dont? |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:26:45 PM EDT
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Those are not A1 receivers and I hate it when manufacturers and retailers refer to them as such, since it creates confusion to people who dont know any better. My question is: Do you not know any better, or are you trying to prey upon people that dont? Shit just got real!! I guess either option is pretty fuckin terrible. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:31:41 PM EDT
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They are E1 configuration. Late A1.
Lets call them Canadian. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:49:09 PM EDT
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Doesn't
Produce Mil-Spec quality parts, just mass produced Sh*t. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:56:38 PM EDT
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We are blowing out our A1 stripped uppers for anyone interested.
Add to cart! And as always over $50 is free shipping on the web! Damn thats cheap!! A2 uppers for $65 as well guys Stripped A2 uppers at that price aren't so cheap if you have to buy the sight and other parts to complete it. I have gotten complete A2 uppers for a few $$ more. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:04:14 PM EDT
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Stripped A2 uppers at that price aren't so cheap if you have to buy the sight and other parts to complete it. I have gotten complete A2 uppers for a few $$ more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are blowing out our A1 stripped uppers for anyone interested.
Add to cart! And as always over $50 is free shipping on the web! Damn thats cheap!! A2 uppers for $65 as well guys Stripped A2 uppers at that price aren't so cheap if you have to buy the sight and other parts to complete it. I have gotten complete A2 uppers for a few $$ more. I still see it as cheap, but I hear installing the rear sight is a bitch and a half. I just bought mine complete off the EE for $150 (Anchor Harvey forge marked) |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:25:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't Produce Mil-Spec quality parts, just mass produced Sh*t. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:25:40 PM EDT
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Look guys call it what you like but we have some "A1" receivers available for a good price that some builders would like to turn into a rifle. Are these original Colt? No and we never advertised them to be anything they are not.
If you don't like us at DPMS or our products that's fine but lets all be adults keep this forum civil and not turn this thread into a GD thread. In a generality we call it a "A1" as it does not have windage and elevation adjustment like a "A2" receiver. This is a great forum and it's really a shame when these threads de-rail and crumble... |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:28:48 PM EDT
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Actually, I was in the market for a couple of brass deflector A1's. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:37:28 PM EDT
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Look guys call it what you like but we have some "A1" receivers available for a good price that some builders would like to turn into a rifle. Are these original Colt? No and we never advertised them to be anything they are not. If you don't like us at DPMS or our products that's fine but lets all be adults keep this forum civil and not turn this thread into a GD thread. In a generality we call it a "A1" as it does not have windage and elevation adjustment like a "A2" receiver. This is a great forum and it's really a shame when these threads de-rail and crumble... It's a tough crowd in here. Lots of purists. I do like the new LR-308 GII. You're 7.62x39 extractors need some work though (they just break). 
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:47:36 PM EDT
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Doesn't Produce Mil-Spec quality parts, just mass produced Sh*t. Sorry Aimless, it won't happen again. 
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Posted: 8/29/2014 2:52:53 PM EDT
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Look guys call it what you like but we have some "A1" receivers available for a good price that some builders would like to turn into a rifle. Are these original Colt? No and we never advertised them to be anything they are not. If you don't like us at DPMS or our products that's fine but lets all be adults keep this forum civil and not turn this thread into a GD thread. In a generality we call it a "A1" as it does not have windage and elevation adjustment like a "A2" receiver. This is a great forum and it's really a shame when these threads de-rail and crumble... I'm sorry for the rant, I've been a little steamed since waiting over a year for a barrel that was susposed to take 3 months. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:03:54 PM EDT
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I bought one for the hell of it. It is a C7 upper that you may have better luck on the A2 thread. For me, it will go on a "muddy girl" camo Franken carbine for my daughter. I had a none Colt A1 upper lined up, but I'll put that one aside now.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:17:51 PM EDT
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Oh the gears in my head are turning now. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:43:35 PM EDT
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Sergio, is that the preban DPMS lower, you text messaged me about?
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:44:40 PM EDT
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Sergio, is that the preban DPMS lower, you text messaged me about? No its not 
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:46:13 PM EDT
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Not so bad for an IDF build as there were C7 types 723's - although for the purist, its not colt.
Worth considering though |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 4:13:43 PM EDT
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I'm a little shocked and disappointed at what I just read. I always got the impression that the retro forum was a bit more refined.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 5:14:40 PM EDT
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I'm a little shocked and disappointed at what I just read. I always got the impression that the retro forum was a bit more refined. This isn't how it usually operates in here but Hip is a class A guy so i'm sure he means it when he says sorry we've all had our bad days in the past, me included.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 5:37:16 PM EDT
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Doesn't Produce Mil-Spec quality parts, just mass produced Sh*t. Exactly. Thanks Aimless. Most folks here know that I am not a DPMS fan, but at that price, I may have to get one myself  I would like to know if the carry handle issue has been fixed however, and would like to know if this means DPMS is getting out of A1's entirely. I think that would be too bad, and I think if I got one I'd use it for a 733ish pistol build. Just a thought.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 5:39:43 PM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up. I been wanting to pick one up for some time. I ordered one to go with a custom 80% lower I am working on.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:46:05 PM EDT
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Talk about misreading the target market!
And doubling down on calling them A1 after being told those were C7 uppers in the vernacular of this forum... cheeky. Sadly DPMS once told me they didn't want my filthy money as I was not a cop or military since it was illegal for anyone else to own a barrel shorter than 16". I've taken them at their word on that and have never offered them even a cent since. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:00:42 PM EDT
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Good price. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:21:44 PM EDT
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I would like to know if the carry handle issue has been fixed Morg, I think maybe you mean the "charging" handle issue? Because I seem to recall seeing somewhere on ARF that the DPMS C7's had trouble with anything but DPMS charging handles... but I could be remembering wrong. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:44:41 PM EDT
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Shouldn't this be in the EQUIPMENT EXCHANGE section anyway? And, I,m biting my tongue to not mention about DPMS' customer service dept.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:49:16 PM EDT
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If the CH channel issue has been addressed I might consider one. But would really like to find a Diemaco...
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Posted: 8/30/2014 1:13:59 AM EDT
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Morg, I think maybe you mean the "charging" handle issue? Because I seem to recall seeing somewhere on ARF that the DPMS C7's had trouble with anything but DPMS charging handles... but I could be remembering wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would like to know if the carry handle issue has been fixed Morg, I think maybe you mean the "charging" handle issue? Because I seem to recall seeing somewhere on ARF that the DPMS C7's had trouble with anything but DPMS charging handles... but I could be remembering wrong. Your right, and Morg was the one that pointed out the issues were comng from the C7 uppers from DPMS. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 1:54:31 AM EDT
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Morg, I think maybe you mean the "charging" handle issue? Because I seem to recall seeing somewhere on ARF that the DPMS C7's had trouble with anything but DPMS charging handles... but I could be remembering wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would like to know if the carry handle issue has been fixed Morg, I think maybe you mean the "charging" handle issue? Because I seem to recall seeing somewhere on ARF that the DPMS C7's had trouble with anything but DPMS charging handles... but I could be remembering wrong. YEP. My dumb ass. Been a long week.
ALSO - I want to go on record as saying I think this is a decent deal considering what A1 'type' recievers are going for recently, and if a company like theirs actually had the balls to invest in things like 1:12 barrels, old standard barrel extensions as an option rather than M4 extensions, marking under the HG's and making sure their parts meet milspec (Which I believe they have been working on) as well as silly things like sliprings rather than delta, etc. That they would do well. In fact, if they will pay me 60K a year, I will come back there and create a new department and make them money. Done it before.  Seriously though, if I had the cash right now, I'd buy a couple myself, but I'm trying to save money for ISBN numbers dammit. 
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Posted: 8/30/2014 1:57:55 AM EDT
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I would like to know if the carry handle issue has been fixed Morg, I think maybe you mean the "charging" handle issue? Because I seem to recall seeing somewhere on ARF that the DPMS C7's had trouble with anything but DPMS charging handles... but I could be remembering wrong. YEP. My dumb ass. Been a long week.Carry handle, charging handle ... We all knew what you meant, Morg. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 10:53:57 AM EDT
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I ordered two of these yesterday. I had two I received from Midway back in December I pulled out of a box and checked.
LMT and BCM Gunfighter charging handles both fit fine into these two. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 10:57:47 AM EDT
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I ordered two of these yesterday. I had two I received from Midway back in December I pulled out of a box and checked. LMT and BCM Gunfighter charging handles both fit fine into these two. I was pretty sure that they had fixed the issue - not that there should have been one in the first place, but at least they are G2G now. I really would like another C7 upper...but I need ISBNs more.
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Posted: 8/30/2014 3:47:35 PM EDT
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With the price so darn low, just buy a dpms charging handle...it could always be used as as a spare if you can fit a GI one in this upper.
Though the charging handle fit issue has been around a while ( I had this problem ) the other fit and finish features of these receivers are spot on. I'm running two of these C7 type receivers with the DPMS charging handles. The rest of the guts are GI or Colt....both have been great performers. VERY consistent accuracy and perfect reliability. This is a really good buy. I am tempted to grab one , myself. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 6:17:31 PM EDT
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps?
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Posted: 8/30/2014 7:22:42 PM EDT
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Anyone know a cheap source for A1 sights?
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Posted: 8/30/2014 7:53:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know a cheap source for A1 sights? http://www.dpmsinc.com/Rear-Sight-Parts_c_402.html http://www.dpmsinc.com/Rear-Sight-Apertures-_c_438.html |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 7:57:37 PM EDT
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 3:21:31 AM EDT
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The one I just looked at does not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 6:43:53 AM EDT
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I've been pleased with the DPMS uppers I've had in the past. May have to snag one of these, save for the fact I really don't want the justification to start another build.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:22:03 AM EDT
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That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. 5 minutes with a round file will fix that. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 11:19:00 AM EDT
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M4 extensions work just fine with non m4 uppers. It's the other way that causes problems. You can't use rifle extensions with m4 relieved uppers. There will be a gap between the extension and the upper that can catch the bullet nose. I have used M4 barrels on non m4 uppers without problems.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 6:28:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. Rifle barrels, rather than carbine barrels, usually have rifle extensions. For an A1 type upper it makes perfect sense to have a rifle feed system. And remember that an M4 barrel will function fine in a receiver without M4 ramps.  |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 6:29:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5 minutes with a round file will fix that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. 5 minutes with a round file will fix that. Please don't do that. You will cut through the anodizing in the upper |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 6:37:15 PM EDT
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Please don't do that. You will cut through the anodizing in the upper Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. 5 minutes with a round file will fix that. Please don't do that. You will cut through the anodizing in the upper It doesn't matter. That area isn't that stressed and I have done this more than once, including on a rifle with close to 15,000 rounds on that upper. Rarely on a semi-auto will you get a nose strike below the steel anyways. Guess what? It's still fine. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 7:28:06 PM EDT
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On a historical upper I would not do this. On a new production DPMS? Have at it if it makes you feel better.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:13:35 PM EDT
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Rifle barrels, rather than carbine barrels, usually have rifle extensions. For an A1 type upper it makes perfect sense to have a rifle feed system. And remember that an M4 barrel will function fine in a receiver without M4 ramps. http://ar15barrels.com/tech/feedramps2.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. Rifle barrels, rather than carbine barrels, usually have rifle extensions. For an A1 type upper it makes perfect sense to have a rifle feed system. And remember that an M4 barrel will function fine in a receiver without M4 ramps. http://ar15barrels.com/tech/feedramps2.jpg I understand that an M4 ramped barrel in a rifle upper should be fine, but I've kind of been shy about having that combo again after I had an A1 upper with an M4 ramped barrel that did have feeding issues. I think there might have been something else going on in that case and I never really figured it out since I sold that rifle to fund another purchase, but since then I'd just be happier having the feed ramp types match. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:40:58 PM EDT
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I understand that an M4 ramped barrel in a rifle upper should be fine, but I've kind of been shy about having that combo again after I had an A1 upper with an M4 ramped barrel that did have feeding issues. I think there might have been something else going on in that case and I never really figured it out since I sold that rifle to fund another purchase, but since then I'd just be happier having the feed ramp types match. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do these have rifle or M4 ramps? The one I just looked at does not. That's a shame. I don't really understand that either since barrels with rifle extensions seem to be a rarity these days. Rifle barrels, rather than carbine barrels, usually have rifle extensions. For an A1 type upper it makes perfect sense to have a rifle feed system. And remember that an M4 barrel will function fine in a receiver without M4 ramps. http://ar15barrels.com/tech/feedramps2.jpg I understand that an M4 ramped barrel in a rifle upper should be fine, but I've kind of been shy about having that combo again after I had an A1 upper with an M4 ramped barrel that did have feeding issues. I think there might have been something else going on in that case and I never really figured it out since I sold that rifle to fund another purchase, but since then I'd just be happier having the feed ramp types match. Cool. Just don't fuck up a piece of history to do it - that's all I'm saying. Current production C7's are a go as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 11:01:37 PM EDT
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Cool. Just don't fuck up a piece of history to do it - that's all I'm saying. Current production C7's are a go as far as I'm concerned.
Don't worry I had no intentions of doing that. That's probably why I'm still sitting on 2 A1 kits and a couple of those McKay A1 profile barrels. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:11:21 AM EDT
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Don't worry I had no intentions of doing that. That's probably why I'm still sitting on 2 A1 kits and a couple of those McKay A1 profile barrels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool. Just don't fuck up a piece of history to do it - that's all I'm saying. Current production C7's are a go as far as I'm concerned.
Don't worry I had no intentions of doing that. That's probably why I'm still sitting on 2 A1 kits and a couple of those McKay A1 profile barrels. Nice! I envy you. Be sure to post pics once you are done.
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