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Posted: 8/5/2005 8:10:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2019 7:04:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2019 10:58:28 PM EDT
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SBA4 is out and about. Shipping.

Bought another one just to make sure; looking like this (from SB Tactical)

Link Posted: 5/4/2019 11:18:27 AM EDT
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SB Tactical is also releasing the SBA3 in two new colors as well. OD Green and Grey.
Link Posted: 5/4/2019 1:34:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/4/2019 4:33:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:

SBA4 is out and about. Shipping.

Bought another one just to make sure; looking like this (from SB Tactical)

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/326068/Screen_Shot_2019-05-03_at_7_56_57_PM-933523.png
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gross.  i'll stick with the sba3.

no freeloading:

Link Posted: 5/4/2019 6:08:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/4/2019 6:53:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RwithThe40:

Steel case or aluminum? Either way, you don’t have any problems with this set up?
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750 rounds of Federal Aluminum and no issues so far. Just a PSA with a Stern bolt so I could add the Law Tactical adapter.
Link Posted: 5/4/2019 11:41:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
SB Tactical is also releasing the SBA3 in two new colors as well. OD Green and Grey.
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The Gray has been available exclusively from PSA for a while now.  Glad to see SB is offering it everywhere else now. Didn't know they added OD into the mix, good for them.
Link Posted: 5/5/2019 12:35:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2019 7:55:18 AM EDT
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My new 9MM AR build.
Anderson "ghost" lower - no horse logo
Anderson sport upper - no dust cover or FA
KAK 8" barrel
KAK flash can
KVP bolt
Foxtrot Mike handguard
BCM handstop
Right to Bear nickel teflon trigger
P-Mags with EndoMag 9MM inserts
Magpul sights
Magpul grip
Strike extended bolt release
Damage Ind. ambi selector
Shockwave blade & tube
JP carbine spring
KAK 9MM buffer
Proctor sling
to be added Radian Raptor charging handle and some red dot.



Link Posted: 5/5/2019 8:25:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancer007] [#11]
11.5" Ballistic Advantage barrel
Aero upper & BCG
Usgi surplus carry handle
RRA lpk
Anderson lower
KAK tube
SBM4 brace

This thing is a joy to shoot.

Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:14:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TGE:
Pic works, nice pistol!

Is that the battery assisted deal?
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What do you mean?
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:15:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:

I watched the MAC (Military Arms Channel) YouTube video on a version of this gun. The 100yrd "keyhole monster" as they called it. Some type of straight rifling for the barrel. Not a tack driver, but if you live in the Communist states it gets you back in the game.

The Reformation is classified as a "Firearm" so he had a VFG and Magpul stock on it too. And of coarse a binary trigger..

The Franklin Armory Reformation
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This isn't the Reformation.  That's actually illegal in CA.  It's the CA7.  It's a completely standard AR pistol... without the gas tube.  Don't get me started about the goofy laws here.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:18:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:

SBA4 is out and about. Shipping.

Bought another one just to make sure; looking like this (from SB Tactical)

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/326068/Screen_Shot_2019-05-03_at_7_56_57_PM-933523.png
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when you get this, compare to standard 5 position m4 style stock moe etc?  I want to know if it will fit me me?
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 5:09:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By togadelic:

when you get this, compare to standard 5 position m4 style stock moe etc?  I want to know if it will fit me me?
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Yup. I can't wait in fact; still not here (neither order, the one at Midway due on Friday and the one I placed days ago directly with SBTactical, of which I have absolutely no idea of where they're at - shipped, non-shipped etc.).

But I surely will - it's in my list of investigations as well, naturally.
Will post pictures here
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 6:38:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_] [#16]
Got it now, I mean right now.
Thrown in onto one of my pistols - I think it looks great. What I was hoping for in fact.

But it feels even better; sturdy ASF, no wobbly at ALL, and I mean, at all.

Just awesome all around. Will quickly commence with some comparisons - pictorials so that you brothers can see


SBA4 733
by SoloDallas, on Flickr

ETA: now with friends (from left to right, waffle stock, SBA4, SBM4, SBA3 and CAR stock)


SBA4 and friends by SoloDallas, on Flickr
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 7:18:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_] [#17]
Different build and look,


SBA4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

and again among others


SBA4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr


SBA4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

This will conclude today's brief pictorial excursus on the just received and awesome SBA4.

PS the materials are substantially different, between the SBA4 and the SBM4, if you were curious; even the 'rubber' section on the SBA4 is harder than the SBM4 rubber. It's different material altogether.
You have, in the upper section of the brace - that you would cheek-weld - a very sturdy, hard plastic - like a stock. And the theoretically more flexible part is however and unexpectedly (and very pleasantly!) sturdier than rubber.

It ain't rubber in fact. It flexes, but it ain't rubber. Love it.
It is rubber; it must be. It's just reformulated, harder rubber. Harder to flex - more appropriate for its scope here.
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 7:20:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Different build and look,

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47755245412_0302863636_b.jpg
SBA4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

and again among others

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47755245512_06490f0303_b.jpg
SBA4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40841038233_6f86326103_b.jpg
SBA4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

This will conclude today's brief pictorial excursus on the just received and awesome SBA4.

PS the materials are substantially different, between the SBA4 and the SBM4, if you were curious; even the 'rubber' on the SBA4 is harder than the SBM4 rubber. It's different.
You have, above, a very sturdy, hard plastic - like a stock. And the theoretically more flexible part is however and unexpectedly (and very appreciated!) sturdier than rubber.

It ain't rubber in fact. It flexes, but it ain't rubber. Love it.
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Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 7:21:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:

Thanks!
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Aye Sir - Over and out,

SD
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 10:25:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MackDaddy1962:

I've bought three of these. Two 36" and one 24". They're as good as it gets.

Savior Bags

eBay seller is GTG (They're also on Amazon.)

Here's a pic of my 36" FDE bag. The black 24" I recently got for my 7.5" 556 / 8" 300 BO build is just as nice. Nice and compact!

https://media.fotki.com/2v2J77kyLx9T3R.jpg
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also very happy with my bag, well made, absorbs abuse, well designed
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 9:52:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Got it now, I mean right now.
Thrown in onto one of my pistols - I think it looks great. What I was hoping for in fact.

But it feels even better; sturdy ASF, no wobbly at ALL, and I mean, at all.

Just awesome all around. Will quickly commence with some comparisons - pictorials so that you brothers can see

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47018359464_4219a2b400_b.jpg
SBA4 733
by SoloDallas, on Flickr

ETA: now with friends (from left to right, waffle stock, SBA4, SBM4, SBA3 and CAR stock)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47755156492_63a7cc8d2c_b.jpg
SBA4 and friends by SoloDallas, on Flickr
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Thanks for the pictures, it looks great on the mk18 altough I'm not sure about how it looks on the retro builds, i feel that the sba3 is closer to the shape of the car stock especially if you fold the wings up
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 10:42:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2019 11:17:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By polishkebasa:

Thanks for the pictures, it looks great on the mk18 altough I'm not sure about how it looks on the retro builds, i feel that the sba3 is closer to the shape of the car stock especially if you fold the wings up
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I'm debating it myself,
Probably for A2 Builds is appropriate and maybe not so much for the rest.
At least we got both now!
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 1:14:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HoosierAR] [#24]
Finally! My dream home defense AR. Small enough to be highly maneuverable, yet potent enough to be a deterrent against just about anything that it is likely to encounter.


Link Posted: 5/9/2019 1:29:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
I'm debating it myself,
Probably for A2 Builds is appropriate and maybe not so much for the rest.
At least we got both now!
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By polishkebasa:

Thanks for the pictures, it looks great on the mk18 altough I'm not sure about how it looks on the retro builds, i feel that the sba3 is closer to the shape of the car stock especially if you fold the wings up
I'm debating it myself,
Probably for A2 Builds is appropriate and maybe not so much for the rest.
At least we got both now!
Thanks for pics and notes. Looks good.

Can you say if the 'wings' are more or less rigid than the ones on the SBA3?

I've switched over mostly to Tailhook mod2 for the increased rigidity but this one looks like it might be worth a try just for variety.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 1:42:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TGE:
Thanks for pics and notes. Looks good.

Can you say if the 'wings' are more or less rigid than the ones on the SBA3?

I've switched over mostly to Tailhook mod2 for the increased rigidity but this one looks like it might be worth a try just for variety.
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WAY more rigid; it was what I was trying to represent up there: at first it seemed that those wings were hard plastic in fact; then I had to come back to my own observations and conclude that it is rubber, but mixed with something else. It's truly hard and stiff - stiffer than SBA3's rubber lower section
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 1:46:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
WAY more rigid; it was what I was trying to represent up there: at first it seemed that those wings were hard plastic in fact; then I had to come back to my own observations and conclude that it is rubber, but mixed with something else. It's truly hard and stiff - stiffer than SBA3's rubber lower section
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By TGE:
Thanks for pics and notes. Looks good.

Can you say if the 'wings' are more or less rigid than the ones on the SBA3?

I've switched over mostly to Tailhook mod2 for the increased rigidity but this one looks like it might be worth a try just for variety.
WAY more rigid; it was what I was trying to represent up there: at first it seemed that those wings were hard plastic in fact; then I had to come back to my own observations and conclude that it is rubber, but mixed with something else. It's truly hard and stiff - stiffer than SBA3's rubber lower section
Got it, thank you. I've never handled an sbm4 so wasn't sure if it was more flexible than the sba3.

I'll put this on the list to try on my next one. Thank you!
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 2:16:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TGE:
Got it, thank you. I've never handled an sbm4 so wasn't sure if it was more flexible than the sba3.

I'll put this on the list to try on my next one. Thank you!
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It's a joy to give back (here);
I ordered another one hence (2 in total) of these SBA4's; they're that good. The sturdiness will impress you as well; won't wobble on the buffer and all that (quite the contrary, you'll have to push and pull in order to make it transition to different positions).

Mind you it's on the same level of the SBA3; I consider it an upgrade mostly looks wise as function wise it's likely identical.
But the way the implementation was done - considering what it is - was the best possibile implementation for such sort of thing.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 2:22:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Daggertt] [#29]
I just ordred a couple of the SBA4's. The shipping rates appear to be flat rate, so it's the same whether you order 1 or 5. I've ordered from these guys before. Standard drop-shipper. No issues.

https://gunprodeals.com/sbtact-sba4-blk-sba4-blk-w-6-pos-carbine-ext.html

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Link Posted: 5/9/2019 2:55:06 PM EDT
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One more pistol to show what it looks like on different builds


Colt Upper on SBA4
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Colt Upper on SBA4
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Colt Upper on SBA4
by SoloDallas, on Flickr
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 3:09:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
It's a joy to give back (here);
I ordered another one hence (2 in total) of these SBA4's; they're that good. The sturdiness will impress you as well; won't wobble on the buffer and all that (quite the contrary, you'll have to push and pull in order to make it transition to different positions).

Mind you it's on the same level of the SBA3; I consider it an upgrade mostly looks wise as function wise it's likely identical.
But the way the implementation was done - considering what it is - was the best possibile implementation for such sort of thing.
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By TGE:
Got it, thank you. I've never handled an sbm4 so wasn't sure if it was more flexible than the sba3.

I'll put this on the list to try on my next one. Thank you!
It's a joy to give back (here);
I ordered another one hence (2 in total) of these SBA4's; they're that good. The sturdiness will impress you as well; won't wobble on the buffer and all that (quite the contrary, you'll have to push and pull in order to make it transition to different positions).

Mind you it's on the same level of the SBA3; I consider it an upgrade mostly looks wise as function wise it's likely identical.
But the way the implementation was done - considering what it is - was the best possibile implementation for such sort of thing.
I do like the sba3, but my one wish-list itwm for it is stiffer 'wings'. I agree with you - this is an aesthetic upgrade too, so icing on the cake for me.

I'm in the middle of a Grendel pistol and already have the Tailhook for it, but I'm due for at least one most pistol brace to give my new 22 a dedicated lower and this looks like the ticket.

Your latest pics above look tremendous too.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 3:12:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TGE:

Your latest pics above look tremendous too.
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'nkyou!!!
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 4:44:03 PM EDT
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Solo,  is the lop longer than sba3?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:59:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
'nkyou!!!
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By TGE:

Your latest pics above look tremendous too.
'nkyou!!!
Yeah, I must say your photos are inspirational at the least. They even place a nick to one's soul!
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:17:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By togadelic:

Solo,  is the lop longer than sba3?
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Good question - let me check (now)

ETA: as you can see, the answer to your question is yes it is, it's the same length of pull;
however, you will notice (and like it!) that the SBA4 is just ever so slightly longer than the SBA3.

So for all intents and purposes of measuring LOP depending on this or that (and you know what)...


SBA3 vs SBA4 LOP
by SoloDallas, on Flickr
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:18:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03Jet:

Yeah, I must say your photos are inspirational at the least. They even place a nick to one's soul!
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See? You just made my Thursday.

Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:46:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
I am replying again to your picture here because I keep on looking at how the KAK blade seems to fit better with the older look of a clone-ish, older AR's.

I have a SBA3 installed here but I am debating re-installing the KAK on this pistol lower.
The only thing that throws me is that with the KaK you have to screw and unscrew that setscrew in order to set the LOP.

What matters to me the most though, at least with my clone (ish) guns is the looks.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4843/46015766182_f432e57e02_b.jpg
Colt 733 Clone by SoloDallas, on Flickr

ETA changed few things around but truth is, you can't polish a turd and an AR15 pistol ain't an SBR. I conclude that specifically with SBR classics (vintage looking short barreled AR15s such as Commandos and 10.3") the stock can make a huge difference in looks. And looks, with these, are all that matters.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4810/46066241681_2c46faf75e_b.jpg
733 Pistol turd closed by SoloDallas, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4873/46066242551_9827d5f910_b.jpg
733 Pistol turd open by SoloDallas, on Flickr
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@solodallas

with an sba4, this classic iron sight carry handle look intrigues me

any idea how to RIBZ this length?   how did you zero?  is the z the near and?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:49:24 PM EDT
[#38]
thank you solo
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:49:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By togadelic:

@solodallas

with an sba4, this classic iron sight carry handle look intrigues me

any idea how to RIBZ this length?   how did you zero?  is the z the near and?
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Bro didn't get what you mean (sorry! just been back stateside for five years, grew up in Europe).
What do you exactly mean by RIBZ?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 8:15:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Bro didn't get what you mean (sorry! just been back stateside for five years, grew up in Europe).
What do you exactly mean by RIBZ?
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/RIBZ-Revised-Improved-Battlesight-Zero/18-328143/?r=-1&page=11&anc=7833677#i7833677

an amazing thing for iron sight zero

I learned so so much starting this way in my ar experience

alas

my eyes can't see crap past 20 yards, so optics it is for me.   However, for hd use, with ribz on the z setting I am comfy using a pistol with carry handle like yours, just wondering how to adjust the ribz measurements to fit it to other distances
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 8:19:05 PM EDT
[#41]
22 Lr peestol


Link Posted: 5/9/2019 9:57:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By togadelic:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/RIBZ-Revised-Improved-Battlesight-Zero/18-328143/?r=-1&page=11&anc=7833677#i7833677

an amazing thing for iron sight zero

I learned so so much starting this way in my ar experience

alas

my eyes can't see crap past 20 yards, so optics it is for me.   However, for hd use, with ribz on the z setting I am comfy using a pistol with carry handle like yours, just wondering how to adjust the ribz measurements to fit it to other distances
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Oh LOL cool!
Well we have at least this thing in common, because I can't see crap past 15 yards.
I'll have to look into that device you just mentioned!
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 10:00:08 PM EDT
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@SoloDallas

Thanks for sharing.  I have to order one in FDE.  I love the SBA3 but I'd like to try this SBA4 myself.  Variety is the spice of life.  It's also an excuse to put that 9mm AR PCC I've been wanting to build out in front of it.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 11:28:50 PM EDT
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@SoloDallas

Thanks for sharing.  I have to order one in FDE.  I love the SBA3 but I'd like to try this SBA4 myself.  Variety is the spice of life.  It's also an excuse to put that 9mm AR PCC I've been wanting to build out in front of it.
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A joy brother - and I was born in TX!!!
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 1:54:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles] [#45]


Specs:

DD M4V7s 11.5" upper
Magpul Pro BUIS
VCOG 1-6x w/ 55gn segmented reticle and Bobro ACOG mount
BCM Mod3B large CH
PSA Freedom-15 lower
PSA lower parts kit
Larue MBT2s trigger
Magpul enhanced aluminum trigger guard
Magpul K2+ grip
H1 buffer (going to try a BCM H2 soon)
JP carbine spring
SB Tactical SBA4 brace
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 4:55:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Doodles:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/485060/IMG_0926_JPG-940578.jpg

Specs:

DD M4V7s 11.5" upper
Magpul Pro BUIS
VCOG 1-6x w/ 55gn segmented reticle and Bobro ACOG mount
BCM Mod3B large CH
PSA Freedom-15 lower
PSA lower parts kit
Larue MBT2s trigger
Magpul enhanced aluminum trigger guard
Magpul K2+ grip
H1 buffer (going to try a BCM H2 soon)
JP carbine spring
SB Tactical SBA4 brace
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That...is...awesome.

Truly gorgeous. Well done. Love your upper!
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 8:45:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Steinhatchee] [#47]
Just finished my 300 blackout hunting build today.
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 8:50:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
That...is...awesome.

Truly gorgeous. Well done. Love your upper!
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Thanks

I finally have my unicorn.
Link Posted: 5/11/2019 4:12:02 AM EDT
[#49]
Latest one, a MK18 Mod 0 inspired pistol in 5.56.  Currently has a suppressor mount on it

Link Posted: 5/12/2019 6:07:43 AM EDT
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Looks like three different colors, what was the order of the colors as you paint it? Which upper did you use on this and what's your opinion of the Hogue grips you're using.

@Loonytik
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