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Posted: 4/23/2013 5:22:22 PM EDT
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not sure of your laws but are short barrel rifles legal there? here we must be 16" minimum or apply for a tax stamp.
most of the time if your doing a diy build there will be bugs to work out. just the nature of the beast (gas port size/adjustable gas block, buffer weight, suppressed/unsuppressed, ect...) 5/8-24 is the common thread for 300blk. about as far as I can help. i'm sure others will chime in. |
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Posted: 4/23/2013 10:40:26 PM EDT
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Heja Sverige!
Are you really from Sweden? As someone that has been there a dozen or more times I have a hard time believing you can legally own this.... 
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Posted: 4/24/2013 2:31:18 AM EDT
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Yes, I can legally own this where I am. No tax stamp needed, just the normal fee (€40)
But the gun is semi-auto only, which is fine for me. I have the "Permit to buy" in front of me, so with all that behind me just need to specify what to buy and don't want to get things wrong. I can have a barrel down to 150 mm (5.9"), but longer if I want. Not shorter... Funny enough, lowers are license free here. It's the upper that requires a license. (barrel, bolt, upper receiver all require license to own) Just read some of your laws around SBR and some of it look silly to me (perhaps to you too) ;) However I hope we can leave all the legal talk behind. Each county (and state) is different, simple as that. (If required I can send proof of my permit to a moderator on the forum.) It's the technical side of things I need help with. Stuff like: 6" Barrel twist? 1 in 5? Gas port size? Adjustable gas block? I have this on my other competition ARs (14-18"), rarely change it but feel it's a benefit when playing with new ammo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSogDbqpUSg It says in the text that the HB uses a ported barrel. Is it a ported barrel with a "slip over" suppressor, or? Not planning on porting the barrel. |
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Posted: 4/24/2013 5:10:46 PM EDT
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with a 6" barrel you may get away with 1:8 but a 1:7 would be the fastest i'd go.
gas port size again you can go two route's. one open it up little by little untill it functions best with the ammo you intend to run. or go a little large and use a gas block to regulate. being a 6" I personally would only run sub's so that may help simplify things vs the super/sub capability. also if you reload you can evey taylor your load to make the final adjustments necessary. not sure what you mean about "ported barrel" (not at a cpu where I can watch the link right now) |
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Posted: 4/25/2013 3:34:32 PM EDT
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I call my 7.5" 300BLK version a Honey Beaver. Go with 5/8x24 threads for standard 308 mounts.
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Posted: 4/26/2013 2:24:32 AM EDT
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Thanks for that, jasonusvi. Seen it Before, somewhere on the big web, probably here.
at the name
What is your twist? 1:8? Very trustworthy sources close to the original Honey Badger have told me to use 1:5 twist? Any comments? What's the temperature in the handguard like when you start shooting? Still not sure if to go as low as 6" or be more sensible and use 7-8"? 
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Posted: 4/26/2013 8:29:32 AM EDT
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It will much easier to get a 7-8" barrel as I do not think I've seen a 300BLK barrel shorter than that commercially available.
What suppressor are you going to use on this in SWE? |
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Posted: 4/26/2013 9:52:38 AM EDT
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It will much easier to get a 7-8" barrel as I do not think I've seen a 300BLK barrel shorter than that commercially available. My barrel will be custom anyways, but I guess getting a gas system etc. will make Life easuer if I go 7-8", so I guess that's where I'm heading. I wouldn't mind buying a complete barrel from someone in the US, but I recon the delivery times will kill me, plus all the hazzle with export licenses etc. Supressor, don't know yet perhaps Ase Utra or B&T. Something that can take a lot of heat, like AAC which I guess use inconel? |
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Posted: 4/26/2013 10:38:35 AM EDT
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Doesn'tthe honey badger have an expansion chamber on the barrel before the suppressor? I thought the ATF declared that another suppressor so it was a 3 stamp gun at that point.
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Posted: 4/26/2013 10:57:00 AM EDT
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The Honey Badger has some kind of ported barrel, and perhaps a "2 stage" supressor. Don't know. Not copying this, as I can't.
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Posted: 4/26/2013 7:33:34 PM EDT
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I got a spare pistol lower that im starting to gather parts for. I am on a wait list for a 1 in 8 twist 6.5" 300 blackout barrel for now. the honey badger is the style look im after, as I am only interested in shooting subs. I will find another seekins billet lower to sbr for this down the road. I have interest in the nea stock but there isn't enough solid info on them yet, and I heard troy has a similar stock to be released too.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 1:57:00 AM EDT
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Here's mine running a 6" barrel
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Posted: 4/27/2013 9:07:01 AM EDT
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Fine looking rifle. What handguard is that?
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Posted: 4/27/2013 9:53:05 AM EDT
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looks like a seekins to me,
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Posted: 4/27/2013 3:59:08 PM EDT
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Its a seekins precision bar handguard I recently sold it and ordered the new seekins precision mcsr hand guard
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Posted: 4/28/2013 2:59:08 PM EDT
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Here's mine running a 6" barrel That's a darn fine rifle you got there, sir. What upper is that, really likr the charging handle etc. If you don't mind, please let me know your barrel twist and what sort of performance (distance) you've managed to squeeze of of it? Where did you get the gas system? Custom or off Brownells? How hot, and how fast, does the hand guard get? Is this a problem? Thanks for your help. |
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Posted: 4/28/2013 3:48:53 PM EDT
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This could be a nice alternative stock.
What do you think? http://www.lannertactical.com/SUB-RAVEN-AR15.html 
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Posted: 4/28/2013 5:05:56 PM EDT
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Here's mine running a 6" barrel http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20121128_104649_951.jpg I think I just soiled myself. I am going to need some info about that rifle. Very Nice!!!! |
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Posted: 4/28/2013 10:09:06 PM EDT
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This could be a nice alternative stock.
What do you think? http://www.lannertactical.com/SUB-RAVEN-AR15.html http://www.lannertactical.com/lanner/pageimages/sub_raven5.jpg How much shorter is that than a regular stock? |
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Posted: 4/29/2013 3:39:47 AM EDT
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How much shorter is that than a regular stock? Did you check the link? http://www.lannertactical.com/SUB-RAVEN-AR15.html 
"With is ultra compact stock the LANTAC Sub-RAVEN offers the user maximum portability. The stock extends to an impressive 22.0CM (8.66'') from the rear of the receiver when fully deployed. For legal reasons (overall length), the stock system is permanently attached to the lower receiver. Manufactured from 6063A-T6 Alluminium with hardened steel guide rods and polymer butt pad, the stock can be deployed in seconds to form a robust and effective point of contact. The anti rotation plate also offers a reenforced, welded, ambidextrous sling mounting point underneath the stock assembly. " |
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Posted: 4/29/2013 6:18:09 AM EDT
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The stock extends to an impressive 22.0CM (8.66'') from the rear of the receiver when fully deployed. For legal reasons (overall length), the stock system is permanently attached to the lower receiver. Is it possible to buy it separately?
UK Suppliers of Custom AR15 RIfles and AR15 Rifle Accessories.. Is it available in the US?
ETA: pretty sure that Sub Raven is a .22LR, which means that stock probably won't even work with 5.56 or 300BLK. |
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Posted: 4/29/2013 8:40:37 AM EDT
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ETA: pretty sure that Sub Raven is a .22LR, which means that stock probably won't even work with 5.56 or 300BLK. I have asked the supplier, waiting for a reply but your conclusion is the same as mine. Let's see. |
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Posted: 4/29/2013 8:55:18 AM EDT
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It's do-able, just a matter of how creative you want to be.
You may be able to use a Gunsmoke-style pistol spring setup, which eliminates the weighted buffer. 
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Posted: 4/30/2013 8:06:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2013 10:00:21 AM EDT
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Franken Build. $640 16" CMMG cut to 7.5" about 4.75 Lbs. Pistol Gas, Adj. Block, very short, Runs great
And the Cartridge: Barnes 110 gr. Black tip after 5 Gal. jugs 
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Posted: 5/6/2013 5:44:22 AM EDT
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Calling again for which BARREL TWIST I should order?
Sources close to the real "Project" hint me that they're running 1:5. I will be shooting both subs and supersonic, but I guess more subs than other. |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 10:01:02 AM EDT
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Lothar Walther barrel is 1:8.
Do you think I should be ok with 1:8 and 6"? |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 10:34:56 AM EDT
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Yes that's what I'm running its just like a honey badger it eats what it wants suppressed or unsuppressed.
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Posted: 5/6/2013 7:21:21 PM EDT
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Here's mine running a 6" barrel http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20121128_104649_951.jpg First time a gun has ever gave me a woody LOL That thing is a beaut
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Posted: 5/7/2013 11:28:48 PM EDT
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Here's a new pic with the new rail.
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:09:18 PM EDT
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the NEA stocks are out now
future 300blk build 
7" 5.56 upper in it's place until i pick up the rest of my 300blk parts 
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Posted: 5/8/2013 10:42:51 PM EDT
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Ah come the fuck on! u CANT show pics of that stock and not give us the low down
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Posted: 5/9/2013 12:26:29 AM EDT
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THIS^^^^^
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:10:49 AM EDT
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Ah come the fuck on! u CANT show pics of that stock and not give us the low down I've been waiting for these to be released.... Where/when/how to buy one? Details man! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 11:11:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/9/2013 12:03:04 PM EDT
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Here's a new pic with the new rail. http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20130503_150742_255_zps13d990b1.jpg are you going to cerakote the new rail?? got any vids of that beast?? i love it! |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 12:29:49 PM EDT
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I don't know if I'm going to or not I kinda like it black
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Posted: 5/9/2013 1:02:23 PM EDT
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I don't know if I'm going to or not I kinda like it black i liked it matching the receivers...what suppressor are you running? ETA: nvm, looks like an innovative arms.. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:43:40 PM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 that's it. they've been shipping for a month or so now. i got in on the pre order when they were 329. hopefully i'll be getting out to the nra range to try it out this weekend. 
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Posted: 5/9/2013 8:07:59 PM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 that's it. they've been shipping for a month or so now. i got in on the pre order when they were 329. hopefully i'll be getting out to the nra range to try it out this weekend. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_0381_zpsde31adb5.jpg Mine will go shorter and longer 
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Posted: 5/9/2013 9:42:59 PM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 Anyplace in the us have these? Or can I order this without issue from importation? How are they to deal with? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/10/2013 12:48:49 AM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 that's it. they've been shipping for a month or so now. i got in on the pre order when they were 329. hopefully i'll be getting out to the nra range to try it out this weekend. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_0381_zpsde31adb5.jpg Mine will go shorter and longer
<a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/user/devtucker/media/2013-03-04_17-36-46_163.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/2013-03-04_17-36-46_163.jpg</a> i really like that blaster 
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Posted: 5/10/2013 1:00:32 AM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 Anyplace in the us have these? Or can I order this without issue from importation? How are they to deal with? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile i believe the only us distributor listed is troy defense. i don't think troy is selling just the stocks , i think it only comes on complete guns. i had no problems ordering from them and they were prompt at returning emails. |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 9:20:16 AM EDT
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What about cutting a 16" CMMG 300 BLK barrel into 6"?
It will be done by a gunsmith, but I have no idea if it's a good idea or not so appreciate your advice. It will save me a lot of money vs. getting a custom barrel, but if it's an entry ticket to problems I'd like to know. |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 9:31:37 AM EDT
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What about cutting a 16" CMMG 300 BLK barrel into 6"? It will be done by a gunsmith, but I have no idea if it's a good idea or not so appreciate your advice. It will save me a lot of money vs. getting a custom barrel, but if it's an entry ticket to problems I'd like to know. 6" may be too short to run reliably unsuppressed with .300 unless you put the gas block even closer to the chamber than the "pistol" position. |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 9:40:16 AM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 that's it. they've been shipping for a month or so now. i got in on the pre order when they were 329. hopefully i'll be getting out to the nra range to try it out this weekend. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_0381_zpsde31adb5.jpg Show off that modified BCG? |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 9:51:32 AM EDT
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http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_289&products_id=2177 that's it. they've been shipping for a month or so now. i got in on the pre order when they were 329. hopefully i'll be getting out to the nra range to try it out this weekend. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_0381_zpsde31adb5.jpg Show off that modified BCG? 
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Posted: 5/16/2013 11:41:56 AM EDT
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Thanks.
Which pistol gas system do you recommend for 6"? Where to source it? |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 7:13:04 PM EDT
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Pistol length that's what I run on mine with no problems
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Posted: 5/22/2013 9:03:44 AM EDT
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Ordered the barrel today
6" Lothar Walther 300 AAC Blackout 1:8 Twist. 5/8-24 Not sure about the port size yet. The waiting has begun...next is an order to NEA. |
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