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Posted: 10/14/2005 8:49:43 PM EDT
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Very interesting indeed. I wonder how much, if any, of the decision is because of the breaking bolts, verses just slow sales. Either way, this has to be a financial disaster for BM after all the money they must have spent for R&D and very few sales.
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Posted: 10/14/2005 9:05:24 PM EDT
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increased 223 xm15 sales.........maybe makes up for 308 losses....
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Posted: 10/14/2005 9:07:31 PM EDT
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Oh dammit now I need to buy one FAST
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Posted: 10/14/2005 9:13:35 PM EDT
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Buy an AR-10. |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 9:16:21 PM EDT
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yeah, I wouldn't want to be stuck with something that we now know is going out of production. |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 9:17:51 PM EDT
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Nothing against the AR10; I wish to own one of those as well. However, I also wish to own a Bushmaster 308. Production status is meaningless to me. |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 4:50:09 AM EDT
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I find it rather meaningful to know that I'll have a parts source when things break, but it's your money. <shrug>
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Posted: 10/15/2005 5:24:49 AM EDT
[#8]
a really good point but im sure they will have left over parts laying around to sell/offer |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 7:35:15 AM EDT
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Well, thats big news.
I just sold my M17 Bullpup to build my Beowulf, I really like the Bullpup. I wonder where the prices will go now? May have to pick up another one fast! |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 8:34:54 AM EDT
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Anyone have a link to verify BM is stopping the 308 line?
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Posted: 10/15/2005 9:31:36 AM EDT
[#11]
Replacement bolts that may or may not be as prone to future breakage, with no more R&D going into fixing the problem? I would find that disheartening as a Bushie .308 owner. |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 11:25:15 AM EDT
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Glad I got mine, I may even pick up another.
I just set this e-mail to bushmaster: Is it true that you are discontinuing the .308 BAR-10 rifles? How is this going to affect parts availability? Thank you. Probably won't hear back till Monday. |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 3:51:51 PM EDT
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[quote]Quoted:
I find it rather meaningful to know that I'll have a parts source when things break, I'm sure you'll need 'em. |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 4:38:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/15/2005 4:39:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/15/2005 4:44:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/15/2005 5:49:20 PM EDT
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Bushmasters 308 market advantage was use of cheap FAL mags - the end of the AW ban makes reasonable cost new hi-cap mags available again so there is little advantage gettiing a Bushmaster now.
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Posted: 10/16/2005 10:15:18 AM EDT
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I am glad I didn't pick one up either. Getting stuck with a rifle with no parts available would suck.
Max |
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Posted: 10/16/2005 11:16:28 AM EDT
[#19]
glad I bought my Aussie FAL
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Posted: 10/16/2005 2:40:11 PM EDT
[#20]
glad i have my DPMS LR308
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Posted: 10/17/2005 5:21:18 AM EDT
[#21]
glad i bought a dpms instead
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Posted: 10/18/2005 5:17:43 AM EDT
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Remember a significent number of the "wear parts" are AR15 - but that doesn't include the bolt, carrier and bbl. - too bad I really like mine. DPMS offers stiff competition price wise at about $500 less and AR10's have been getting more reliable at $200 or so less than BAR10 so I understand the decision.
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Posted: 10/18/2005 10:56:47 AM EDT
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I am also glad that I bought a DPMS LR 308...it has been reliable and a pleasure to shoot...the accuracy is on par with any bolt rifle I own...sorry to hear that BM will not be continuing the 308 line...I heard good things about the BAR10 as well.
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Posted: 10/18/2005 11:36:32 AM EDT
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It's true. Confirmed w/Bushmaster this AM.
Bummer for me, but they said they'll still make the .308 specific parts for some time. So...looks like I'll be converting to a DPMS .308 sometime in the future. I go by the arfcomm "rule of twos" and didn't get my second BAR in time... |
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Posted: 10/18/2005 4:15:44 PM EDT
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I got the same from them as well. I think I will go try to get #2 tomorrow. I will wait on the DPMS. |
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Posted: 10/18/2005 4:28:28 PM EDT
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Damn. Looks like I'll have to go with Armalite. What kind of mags do the DPMS use?
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Posted: 10/18/2005 4:39:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/18/2005 4:46:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/18/2005 6:57:11 PM EDT
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you can buy the new steel 20 round DPMS mags from several sources for around $30.
I have a 24" rifle and am very pleased, just added a RRA 2 stage match trigger, ACE skeleton stock and 10X Super Sniper on an Armalite one piece mount, I wont be bothering with a bolt gun again, the only thing I lack is a swivel stud for a bipod. The mags work quite well and are very well made, I need a 10 rounder now to block down to 5 rounds for hunting, from a stand (this is most definitely NOT a walkaround rifle  ) any deer within 500 yards is in trouble, next year it will be getting as much use as my Bushy Varminter for killing woodchucks I did have one problem with my rifle in a backwards way, it was an 18" fluted rifle when I bought it but hated the carbine gas system and carbine float tube on a heavy bull barrel so I swapped it for a 24" stainless upper, it had quite a few misfires with surplus and handloaded ammo (Winchester and CCI primers) and would occasionally leave a case in the chamber (no ripped rims though), close examination showed the firing pin hole (in bolt face only) was bored slightly off center a few thousandths causing the firing pin to bind and the extractor had a weak spring (this was an early production upper), DPMS gave me their UPS billing info to send it back 2nd day insured on their dime and returned it in less than 2 weeks, since then it has been absolutely perfect. The Bushmaster is a very nice looking weapon and the more traditional AR styling appeals to me as I find my DPMS a bit too blocky (but loveable  ), I wouldnt mind haveing one but the bolt issue is troublesome not to mention the cost and now going out of production, maybe one is in my future but certainly not at current prices and esepcially not now.Sorry for the diatribe. Jeff 
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Posted: 10/19/2005 3:15:50 AM EDT
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Well i just recently bought an BAR10 from bushmaster...so my thoughts are this..i either have a weapon that will be a collectable..or..i have a weapon thats worthless....man i hope its the first.
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Posted: 10/19/2005 3:33:29 AM EDT
[#31]
Well that's good news...still at that price they're about 3x as much as a FAL magazine but that's moot now. |
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Posted: 10/19/2005 2:14:03 PM EDT
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So when will the other AR10 makers start making lots of cheap 20 round mags?
And how bout some 30 rounders while they're at it! |
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Posted: 10/19/2005 7:54:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Well, I said screw it and bought another one. 20" A3 on the way.
I shot the shit with the guy at the gun shop, and he thinks that they are only temporarily halting production so that they can re-work the production. He said that it was not so much lack of demand but rather production costs that were hurting .308 line. He thinks that it will be back as it is a great rifle. He also said that parts won't be a problem. |
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Posted: 10/20/2005 6:29:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Never. No .308AR manufacturer has ever made cheap mags. |
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Posted: 10/20/2005 6:30:06 AM EDT
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Man they are my "go to" guys for accurate and timely information. 
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Posted: 10/20/2005 11:29:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/24/2005 4:44:14 PM EDT
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Should also add that they are also raising prices Nov. 1 approximately 5-6%.
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Posted: 10/25/2005 10:20:31 AM EDT
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I don't see them coming back under the present market outlook. They cost too much for Bushmaster to make give limited numbers and DPMS products. I have not had a problem with mine, bolt or otherwise, so I am planning to buy a parts to make up a kit for those specific to the BAR10.
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Posted: 10/25/2005 6:27:34 PM EDT
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One of the last 20" A2s to roll off the assembly line....received it today.
 
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Posted: 10/25/2005 7:28:40 PM EDT
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Should be getting mine tomorrow, 20" A3 with removable handle. Looks like people are buying them up. |
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Posted: 10/30/2005 4:39:22 AM EDT
[#41]
Wow... didn't last long!
I never bought one because I didn't like their set-ups. I wanted a true FS etc... and had hoped they'd sell many parts like the AR15. I did like the idea of FAL mags though. Back to the AR10. In view of so many AR mfd'd lowers and uppers available, are BM sales really going up? |
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Posted: 11/3/2005 3:40:35 AM EDT
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You guys forget that the Bushmaster 308 takes 30rd L4A1 mags which is one major advantage over the other 308 semis.
I am happy I have mine and if you are selling your cheap let me know.......... |
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Posted: 11/9/2005 7:30:01 PM EDT
[#43]
I was at Impact Guns yesterday and they had some still: Impact Guns link
I am going DPMS. Much better looking rifle in my opinion. |
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