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Posted: 3/13/2006 6:54:28 PM EDT
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I ordered what was advertised as a "Vortex Flash Hider" from Gunsmoke Enterprises and from what I received in the mail today, it looks as if I got screwed. I haven't used it yet so I can't tell you if it works as advertised, but there's no doubt what they sold me is a knock off of the real thing. The item sold to me has four prongs that are cut in the same fashion as the prongs found on a Vortex Flashhider however, the prongs on the item Gunsmoke Enterprises sold me are straight as an arrow, ie: there's no sprial / "Vortex" induced to the prongs. The item I received was advertised and sold as a "Vortex Flash Hider" by Gunsmoke Enterprises, paid for and shipped interstate commerce via U.S. Mail. (Im thinking mail fraud here.) Question: Is "Vortex" a brand name flash hider or merely a design that anyone can make themselves and sell under the "Vortex" name? P.S. I saw the thread warning people away from Gunsmoke Enterprises AFTER I placed this order. I assumed they were a legitimate company due to the fact that AR15.com has a link to their website on the AR Pistol forum.... Link is on this thread Does AR15.com recommend Gunsmoke Enterprises as a legitimate company to do business with? Thanks for any input. |
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Can't comment on what AR15.com considers Gunsmoke Enterprises. What they sold you is either an early model Vortex or, more likely a Young Vortec flash suppressor. They are stock on the POF piston uppers and are somewhat less effective than the curved Smith Vortex. TS 
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It is a Vortex Gen 2. They are also sold on DSA's web site.They sell it for $30. DSA |
The name "Gen 2" sounds as if this is a second generation of the Vortex flash hider. In an email response to me, Gunsmoke Ent. said their "Vortex" is the old style/original Vortex. How many generation/versions of the Vortex are there? Does the Gen2 work as well as the Smith Vortex? It'll be at least three weeks before I will have a free weekend to do night fire. |
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I have the same flash suppressor and purchased it and some other items from GSE last year. I can't tell you if I got screwed or not, as it seems to work. My range is pretty much covered with baffles and fairly dark on an overcast day. My 8 3/8 Model 29 really lights the place up. I can't detect any flash from the side or rear. Before anybody says ANYTHING, I could with the birdcage that was on it before. This is on a 16" barrel. I haven't found a test subject to report from downrange. |
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The early Vortex flash suppressors had straight tines, not spiraled like the current iterations. History of the Vortex thread |
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