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Posted: 3/24/2004 10:51:37 AM EDT
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As of now, standard USGI mags will not work very well. I can get 5 rounds in a 20rd mag before I experience problems. Steel mags might work, but I don't have any to test.
There will be mags body kits available which will hold 18 and 28 rounds (comparable in size to 20 and 30 USGIs). |
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Posted: 3/24/2004 11:36:00 AM EDT
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If standard USGI mags don't work, or can't be easily modified to work, the 6.8 will be a commercial failure unless the AWB goes away. Even then, it would be better if the millions of surplus mags were usable. This is bad news.
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Posted: 3/24/2004 11:39:03 AM EDT
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i'd like to see what the new follower and spring kits look like. i'd also like ot know what they cost.
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Posted: 3/24/2004 11:45:40 AM EDT
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ipschoser1,
It is perfectly legal to take an existing pre-ban magazine and replace parts, including the mag-body, as long as you do not manufacture a "new" magazine, and the mag works in the gun it was designed for. This is exactly how you get an AR10 mag from an M1A mag: you buy an M1A mag for $40-50, and then replace the mag body and follower with the $30 kit from Armalite. Yes, that is expensive in the M1A/AR10 case. This is also how IPSC shooters replace their high-capacity STI/SVI magazine bodies when they get stepped on. So to produce a 6.8-compatible mag with these alleged new mag bodies, the cost would be $15 or whatever for the original pre-ban AR15 magazine, and then the cost of the replacement mag body. They won't be as cheap as normal AR15 magazines, but they won't be priced out of reach. Remember, a person who wants 6.8-compatible magazines will already be willing to shell out a premium to either buy or reload 6.8 ammo. -z |
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Posted: 3/24/2004 12:10:40 PM EDT
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I´ve been wondering has anyone tested British steel mags on that 6.8mm?
Those are pretty stout mags. They should take more abuse than USGI and won´t get misformed so easily. Just my thoughts. MN |
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Posted: 3/24/2004 4:18:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: As of now, standard USGI mags will not work very well. I can get 5 rounds in a 20rd mag before I experience problems. Steel mags might work, but I don't have any to test. There will be mags body kits available which will hold 18 and 28 rounds (comparable in size to 20 and 30 USGIs). Thanks for the information. This is exactly what I needed. |
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Posted: 3/24/2004 7:00:50 PM EDT
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Didn't I read somewhere that Orlites or Thermolds could be easily modified to work with the 6.8?
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Posted: 3/24/2004 7:38:06 PM EDT
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I tried jamming Remington 6.8SPC rounds into both Thermolds and Orlites, and had no more success than USGI mags, which means about 6-8 rounds.
-z |
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Posted: 3/25/2004 6:15:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: ipschoser1, It is perfectly legal to take an existing pre-ban magazine and replace parts, including the mag-body, as long as you do not manufacture a "new" magazine, and the mag works in the gun it was designed for. This is exactly how you get an AR10 mag from an M1A mag: you buy an M1A mag for $40-50, and then replace the mag body and follower with the $30 kit from Armalite. Yes, that is expensive in the M1A/AR10 case. This is also how IPSC shooters replace their high-capacity STI/SVI magazine bodies when they get stepped on. So to produce a 6.8-compatible mag with these alleged new mag bodies, the cost would be $15 or whatever for the original pre-ban AR15 magazine, and then the cost of the replacement mag body. They won't be as cheap as normal AR15 magazines, but they won't be priced out of reach. Remember, a person who wants 6.8-compatible magazines will already be willing to shell out a premium to either buy or reload 6.8 ammo. -z Rather than buy a 40 round pre ban GI mag buy a 5 dollar pre ban USA mag...imo |
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Posted: 3/25/2004 12:52:59 PM EDT
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Got to look at a new 6.8 28rd steel mag the other day. Didn't have a standard AR mag on me to compare at the moment. Gotta wait a few more weeks before I get a chance to go to the range and try one (leave).
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Posted: 3/25/2004 1:15:14 PM EDT
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what is the difference between 6.8 specific mags and current 223 mags? does the steel keep the mag from deforming with the larger rounds inside, or are the mag bodies shaped differently?
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Posted: 3/25/2004 8:09:11 PM EDT
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[IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/OPS68-3.JPG[/IMG]
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Posted: 3/25/2004 8:16:48 PM EDT
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The SA80A2 mags will not work well with the 6.8
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Posted: 3/26/2004 4:30:12 AM EDT
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Kev, which follower did your SA80A2 mags have? The new style "rounded" follower, or the old style "squared"?
-Cap'n |
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Posted: 3/27/2004 8:00:17 AM EDT
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OK, so no one has answered the question...
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Posted: 3/27/2004 8:22:14 AM EDT
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I USED A PICTURE, ABOVE, TO TRY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEIR IS INDEED A SOLUTION FORTHCOMING. I SUPPOSE I SHOULD ELABORATE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON 5.56MM STEEL MAG BODY REPLACEMENT KITS WITH PRI FOR GOING ON TWO YEARS. THE STOCK FLOORPLATE IS USED. THEY USE A DIFFERENT FOLLOWER AND STRONGER SPRING. THEY WORK GREAT, TOO. THEY ALSO SEEM TO WORK JUST FINE WITH THE 6.8 SPC. PICTURED ABOVE YOU SEE A 20-RD 5.56MM STEEL MAG REPLACEMENT BODY IN THE MAG WELL. CAPACITY IS CUT TO 17 ROUNDS OF 6.8 SPC. THERE IS A LONGER VERSION, TOO, THAT HOLDS 33 ROUNDS OF 5.56MM. WITH THE 6.8 SPC, IT IS CUT TO 28 ROUNDS. PAUL AND I HAVE DONE NUMEROUS FULL AUTO MAG DUMPS IN 5.56MM AND ARE PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS. WE HAVE ALSO DONE THE SAME IN OUR 6.8 SPC WORK. NO PROBLEMS. PRI WILL MAKE THESE AVAILABLE THROUGH M.S.T.N. WHEN THEIR WORKLOAD, CURRENTLY QUITE HIGH, PERMITS. THE "WHEN" AND "HOW MUCH" QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED AS INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE. WES GRANT [URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL] |
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Posted: 3/27/2004 8:37:51 PM EDT
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So, if the AWB doesn't get renewed, no big deal. But if it does, then I need to start stocking up on some crappy USA mags to use a "host" mags for replacements......[:D]
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Posted: 3/27/2004 8:47:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: [IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/OPS68-3.JPG[/IMG] That is a SWEET looking rifle. |
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