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Posted: 12/24/2008 6:16:37 AM EDT

That's right, enough smack-talkin', put 'em up to shut 'em up.

To get this party started, I present our own Wes Ripley's darling little 100 yard group shot in front of some visiting .gov guys a couple days ago.

Wes put the first four into that under .200" hole, then he flung the 5th.

LaRue Stealth Upper 18"
LW50 Stainless Steel barrel
Burris 3-12 XTR
LaRue LT-104 mount
Random brass
Wind 6-8 mph, L2R
NM 2 stage trigger - 1.5 lbs.
60 gr V-Max
25.5 gr 4895
Surefire MB556AR Brake
RCBS Rockchucker

3 shot, 5 shot, 10 shot, any shot, post 'em so's we can see and enjoy 'em.

And Merry Christmas to all y'all accuracy aficionados.

M. LaRue

ETA - And dang it, no cheatin', your word is your bond.

Posted: 12/24/2008 6:37:09 AM EDT

[#1]

i did .199" at 200yrds but dont have a picture. does that count

seriously, i would like to see some groups too

Posted: 12/24/2008 6:37:18 AM EDT

[#2]

Most impressive shooting Mark!

Merry Christmas!

Posted: 12/24/2008 6:48:06 AM EDT

[#3]

hey Mark that is my favorite load.... Its a deal breaker, for sure.
100 yards
ss 10x
25.5 varget
cci br4
win brass
60 gr vmax
no wind

Posted: 12/24/2008 6:56:38 AM EDT

[#4]

NO CALLED FLIERS! If you shot it, it counts. If you "fling" a bullet on a really important shot, there is no calling it back and asking for a redo.
Sorry, if he was going to shoot a 4 shot group, he should have stopped at 4. FLIERS COUNT, called or not.
IMO that is not a .200 inch group, that is .4935 group and there is nothing special about that.

Do you have any idea how many times when on the shooting line I would have given my left arm to be able to call a pulled shot back? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

Just yanking your chain so don't get upset. Call it what you want to call it and Merry Christmas!

Posted: 12/24/2008 7:06:44 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
IMO that is not a .200 inch group, that is .4935 group and there is nothing special about that.

this thread already took a nose dive into the "BULLSHIT ZONE"...

there is nothing special about a sub-MOA gun on the internet...

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:01:01 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

,snip>

Just yanking your chain so don't get upset. Call it what you want to call it and Merry Christmas!

It's all good. Hey, one of the guys found a "group measuring" software ...

... pics and links any moment now.

ML

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:09:43 AM EDT

[#7]

Link to the program:

http://www.ontargetshooting.com/download.html

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:11:56 AM EDT

[#8]

Excellent shooting !

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:13:57 AM EDT

[#9]

Yeah looking at your calipers I thought the .49 was a little conservative. .450 is pretty damn good. Thats about what I get with my custom bold gun in real world conditions.

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:23:35 AM EDT

[#10]

75 grain match 5 shots at 100

458 SOCOM 5 shots at 100.
(if you shoot big bores... you know this one is hard)

ETA: Great idea for a thread Mark!

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:38:37 AM EDT

[#11]

no real measuring device.............pmag for size ..............55gr v max@100yds
24.5 varget.......10 shots

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:41:36 AM EDT

[#12]

Tag

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:45:50 AM EDT

[#13]

This is def tag-scribe worthy.

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:50:55 AM EDT

[#14]

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:54:53 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Link to the program:

http://www.ontargetshooting.com/download.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/akscott60/wesgroupprogram-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/akscott60/wesgroupprogram2-1.jpg

That is sweet. Thanks for sharing!

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:00:26 AM EDT

[#16]

Good thread. Nice to see some proof for they great internet groups that are spoken of.

Here's my story. I bought a BM varminter in the summer of 2004. Popped on a NF 3.5 - 15 x 50, a bipod, and took it to the range. Sighted from the bench, and put it away for the next session. No special break-in, no fancy cleaning technique.

Next time out, taped a quarter to the target board at the 100 yard line, and took the first cold shot and hit the quarter. All is good, had some more fun and put it away again.

Next time out, same story. And the next, and the next, and the next. Over a four year span, ten sessions. (lost one coin, sorry)

Great groups are great, but for me, knowing that the first cold shot is minute-of-eyeball accurate is comforting far beyond a .250 3 shot group.

I got really lucky with this particular rifle, it is a hell of a shooter.

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:01:29 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Most impressive shooting Mark!

Merry Christmas!

I think you mean Wes.

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:02:25 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Good thread. Nice to see some proof for they great internet groups that are spoken of.

Here's my story. I bought a BM varminter in the summer of 2004. Popped on a NF 3.5 - 15 x 50, a bipod, and took it to the range. Sighted from the bench, and put it away for the next session. No special break-in, no fancy cleaning technique.

Next time out, taped a quarter to the target board at the 100 yard line, and took the first cold shot and hit the quarter. All is good, had some more fun and put it away again.

Next time out, same story. And the next, and the next, and the next. Over a four year span, ten sessions. (lost one coin, sorry)

Great groups are great, but for me, knowing that the first cold shot is minute-of-eyeball accurate is comforting far beyond a .250 3 shot group.

I got really lucky with this particular rifle, it is a hell of a shooter.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ntfepv.jpg

that is pretty impressive i dont think i could even see a quarter at 100 yards

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:04:29 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Good thread. Nice to see some proof for they great internet groups that are spoken of.

<El snippo>

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ntfepv.jpg

Cool beans ... quarter whackin' accuracy.

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:08:10 AM EDT

[#20]

TAg

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:09:58 AM EDT

[#21]

537 yards
3 MOA of wind dialed in the scope. It was a bit breezy.

20" Lothar Walther 1x8 barrel
75 grain Hornady HPBT over Varget.

I pulled one high and called it.

5 rounds in 8 inches.

4 rounds in 2.5 inches.

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:10:59 AM EDT

[#22]

Sheesh, I don't think I could match some of these groups if I put the bbl on the paper. I need to practice!!

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:16:56 AM EDT

[#23]

Here's one of my best with an AR in .204 Ruger at 100 yards......

Another from an AR chambered in .17 REM, also at 100 yards........

And a last one from an AR in .223. Nine out of 10 rounds at .625 MOA with 1 flier out to .812 MOA at 100 yards also. Still not too bad.

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:24:23 AM EDT

[#24]

My best. The group was measured edge to edge, so it's actually a .31 measured center to center. 4-shot group. Planned on 5 shots, but I had a bad primer on the 3rd round and this was my last 5 rounds of the day.

WOA SPR barrel

Posted: 12/24/2008 9:41:42 AM EDT

[#25]

Posted: 12/24/2008 10:14:18 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
http://i42.tinypic.com/6jkrvd.jpg

no real measuring device.............pmag for size ..............55gr v max@100yds
24.5 varget.......10 shots

Dig into that dick-simple "group measuring" program and make it work.

Posted: 12/24/2008 10:26:16 AM EDT

[#27]

All I have is that picture...........the actual target is long gone.

Posted: 12/24/2008 10:28:36 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
All I have is that picture...........the actual target is long gone.

The software mesures the pic ... but it is best to be straight on. Your pic is at sort of an angle.

Posted: 12/24/2008 10:36:00 AM EDT

[#29]

RRA - 15/16" 200 yards with Federal 69 grain GMM:

450 Bushmaster at 100 yards:

Posted: 12/24/2008 10:45:14 AM EDT

[#30]

I can't get past the whole number of holes box.................so so much for dick simple

(wipes drool off key board with shirt)

Posted: 12/24/2008 11:15:43 AM EDT

[#31]

I know it's nothing amazing, but it was early in my AR journey and I was very happy with the results.

16" non-CL Model 1 barrel
4 MOA Aimpoint (zeroed for my other carbine)
WOA 2 stage trigger
WWB .223 ammo

Approx 85 yards with forearm shoved in a gravel berm

I just liked the pic since we were goofing around and I couldn't really see the target center that well.
1st shot (upper right), I was told to go lower. 3 shot group (told to go left) 4 shot group (was being told 'bullseye')
Remember, I'm aiming "somewhere" in the lower left of the paper.
I knew that meant in the black, but I didn't know it meant touching.

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:15:37 PM EDT

[#32]

Bumped for Santa.

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:23:57 PM EDT

[#33]

Does a 22LR group count?

Here is a 3 shot group with CCI Stingers.

Here is a 25 round group with the Cheap Federal Bulk pack.

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:31:55 PM EDT

[#34]

3 and 5 shot groups are just masterbation

Someone post some real 10-shot groups please

Flyers are not actually flyers, put more shots into the grouping and you'll that bullets start to fill the gap between the 'flyer' and the main group

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:42:32 PM EDT

[#35]

For all you range commandos out there

This is from a Larue stealth 16" 0.65" 5-shot group

But when you shoot 10-shot groups the grouping is closer to 1.25"

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:42:59 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
3 and 5 shot groups are just masterbation

Someone post some real 10-shot groups please

Can you beat off to a 2-shot group ? Here's two at 325 with a 6.5 ...

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:46:33 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
3 and 5 shot groups are just masterbation

Someone post some real 10-shot groups please

Can you beat off to a 2-shot group ? Here's two at 325 with a 6.5 ...

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii210/LaRueTactical/Ellk_Hunt/HPIM0488.jpg

My 1-shot groups are still better

Anyway when you get out that far its more about the shooters skill in estimating wind and drop than the mechanical accuracy of the gun, congrats Mark thats some damn fine shooting

Posted: 12/24/2008 5:48:16 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Good thread. Nice to see some proof for they great internet groups that are spoken of.

Here's my story. I bought a BM varminter in the summer of 2004. Popped on a NF 3.5 - 15 x 50, a bipod, and took it to the range. Sighted from the bench, and put it away for the next session. No special break-in, no fancy cleaning technique.

Next time out, taped a quarter to the target board at the 100 yard line, and took the first cold shot and hit the quarter. All is good, had some more fun and put it away again.

Next time out, same story. And the next, and the next, and the next. Over a four year span, ten sessions. (lost one coin, sorry)

Great groups are great, but for me, knowing that the first cold shot is minute-of-eyeball accurate is comforting far beyond a .250 3 shot group.

I got really lucky with this particular rifle, it is a hell of a shooter.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ntfepv.jpg

Looks like someone's going to Jail.

Nice Shot.

Posted: 12/24/2008 7:30:29 PM EDT

[#39]

AR-10T with Lothar Walther barrel first is suppressed and the second isn't...

Posted: 12/24/2008 8:15:31 PM EDT

[#40]

A ten shot at 200 yards w/ RRA - 1 7/16":

Posted: 12/25/2008 12:17:20 AM EDT

[#41]

Here's the first five shots of the day from my 6.8 using Silver State Combat loads...

Posted: 12/25/2008 12:41:34 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Good thread. Nice to see some proof for they great internet groups that are spoken of.

Here's my story. I bought a BM varminter in the summer of 2004. Popped on a NF 3.5 - 15 x 50, a bipod, and took it to the range. Sighted from the bench, and put it away for the next session. No special break-in, no fancy cleaning technique.

Next time out, taped a quarter to the target board at the 100 yard line, and took the first cold shot and hit the quarter. All is good, had some more fun and put it away again.

Next time out, same story. And the next, and the next, and the next. Over a four year span, ten sessions. (lost one coin, sorry)

Great groups are great, but for me, knowing that the first cold shot is minute-of-eyeball accurate is comforting far beyond a .250 3 shot group.

I got really lucky with this particular rifle, it is a hell of a shooter.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ntfepv.jpg

Wow guys... some mighty fine shooting! But... doesn't that creepy anyone else out?

Posted: 12/25/2008 1:41:43 AM EDT

[#43]

Washington is already dead.

Posted: 12/25/2008 9:20:24 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
Washington is already dead.

Is that Washington's face on the eyeball target ?

Posted: 12/25/2008 9:44:27 AM EDT

[#45]

On the quarter! Mark, best factory load so far with your 5.56 uppers?

Posted: 12/25/2008 12:40:27 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
On the quarter! Mark, best factory load so far with your 5.56 uppers?

Oops, I feel like that guy on South Park "I wanna buy a vowel Bill" ...

Oh, and routinely seeing 5/8 moa with Mk262 ... but be sure that with a little work, every barrel likes something just a wee bit better than everything else ... finding that something is the key and worth the hunt.

ML

Posted: 12/25/2008 2:04:12 PM EDT

[#47]

600 Yards

77gr SMK handloads

Posted: 12/26/2008 8:30:03 AM EDT

[#48]

Messiah! wow, great shooting.

I didnt know the president-elect was a member on this board!

Posted: 12/26/2008 10:44:15 AM EDT

[#49]

I dont have one of those fancy programs. Maybe some one can tell me the group sizes. BlackHills MK262 Mod1 (77gr SMK BTHP). 100 yds aiming at these Birchwood Casey 1" stick on dots. The crosshairs in my Leupold TA30 TMR were larger than the orange spot on 9x at 100 yds.

Top group is 5 shots (bottom center is 2 holes).

Here I fixed it for bruchi (next page). The scope view. Go ahead and line up those crosshairs on that almost non-existent dot. The next dot in size is a 2", and the large is a 3". I chose the 1" for a little challenge.