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Posted: 11/26/2006 5:49:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot]
Here are some pictures of my little carbine. After much reading here and thought I went with a 14.5 inch M-4 style barrel lengthened to the appropriate minimum length. The color was something I asked about here and ended up going with the majority view that Colt gray would be best. I really like this rifle and can't wait to test it out. Here are the pictures.
  
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Posted: 11/27/2014 7:46:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryARMS 40 rear sight. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2014 8:43:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Looks interesting but it may not fit here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Looks interesting but it may not fit here. Needs more cowbell..... 
Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Imagine it without optic and rail? I can "imagine" a Browning BAR as an IDF Clone, but it still won't necessarily fit here. 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2014 1:54:53 AM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
so it looks like a fixed rear + flatop + 11.5 -13" is now kosher as an IDF clone http://i.imgur.com/hLPru7b.jpg Cops not IDF. KISS Rifles and in Israel - sure their not IDF - but still kosher Israeli cops and IDF are not the same thing. That's right up there with "Milwaukee PD, USMC, same thing." Purely semantics but with military service being a requirement there, I think its safe to say all of those cops are former IDF. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 2:11:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Not sure if this fits in here or not, but here is my basic 16" carbine
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Posted: 12/3/2014 3:10:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ICEAGE: Purely semantics but with military service being a requirement there, I think its safe to say all of those cops are former IDF. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ICEAGE: Originally Posted By Lumpy196: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: so it looks like a fixed rear + flatop + 11.5 -13" is now kosher as an IDF clone http://i.imgur.com/hLPru7b.jpg Cops not IDF. KISS Rifles and in Israel - sure their not IDF - but still kosher Israeli cops and IDF are not the same thing. That's right up there with "Milwaukee PD, USMC, same thing." Purely semantics but with military service being a requirement there, I think its safe to say all of those cops are former IDF. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 3:12:46 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AttackBadger: Anybody running an A2 aperture on their A1 or C7 upper? I've got a like-new 723 style upper inbound from the EE, and I'm fairly sure it'll have an A1 aperture on it, but those suck a big one. And so I think I'm going to replace it with an A2 one, because big hole/little hole makes more sense than little hole/slightly higher little hole. It's sort of a moot point since it'll end up wearing an Aimpoint or clone anyway, but I don't see the point of hamstringing my iron-sights just to be type correct, if there is such a thing for a 723 or GUU-5/P. |
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Posted: 12/9/2014 9:31:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2336]
[#7]
Here's my take on the IDF Carbine. This was the first AR that I built from bare receivers. I started gathering parts mid '08 and finally got it together mid 2010. Nodak Spud A1 upper, DSA ZM4 lower, barrel is a 16" ER Shaw, chrome-lined thin profile from Model 1. Everything else was scrounged at gun shows and different gun forum classifieds - like here!
The sling and handguard bands are from Zahal in Israel.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 6:22:22 PM EDT
[#8]
This one will get an optic and light eventually, but it's going to stay KISS for a little while.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 4:33:09 PM EDT
[#9]
There are some really nice KISS carbines here. I really dig the IDF guns.
Here's pics of the "IDF Clone" I just put together. I took pics along the way. I started with an old, generic lower I built from 80% and did a krappy krylon paint job on just to dull "the shine". I got the upper from an old, Colt parts kit and the 16" pencil barrel from Daniel Defense. I sent the bbl, sight base and hider to ADCO to be cut and pinned to 16" overall. Super fast turn around on ADCO service btw. The aluminum stock came from EE. Parts 
Disassembling lower. 
Lower ready for stripping. I decided to leave the upper original to see how close Norell's Moly Resin Grayish Flat Black would match. 
Lower after I put it in the blasting cabinet. Aluminum oxide at about 90 psi. I did the same to the buffer tube as it had a funky, green anodizing on it. 
Warming-up parts for Norell's. Norell's recommends 100 degree pre-heat for applying the moly resin with an airbrush. 
Parts after new finish was applied. The Norell's was surprisingly easy and forgiving as I do not possess mad airbrush skillz. 
Painted lower next to original upper finish. Pretty damn close although I don't need a perfect match. That's for shoes and purses. 
Barrel assembly back from ADCO. 
Closeup of the underside of the hider showing where it had been pinned and welded. This photo was taken after I used the Dremel to flatten and smooth the weld a little. It came back from ADCO nice and clean. I just thought the weld was sticking out a bit high. 
Lower reassembled 
I re-parkerized the hider to clean it up a bit. You can still clearly see the pinned area as it parked lighter than the hider. 
Reassembled 
Closeup of receiver. 
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Posted: 12/14/2014 1:33:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2336]
[#10]
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling
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Posted: 12/14/2014 1:40:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! It sure did, nice work! |
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Posted: 12/14/2014 2:26:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Greenleaf]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! 
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Posted: 12/14/2014 2:38:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2336]
[#13]
Now that's dead sexy!
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Posted: 12/14/2014 4:13:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Nice skills and rifle Greenleaf
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Posted: 12/14/2014 10:52:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf: Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf: Originally Posted By 2336: Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Outstanding!
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Posted: 12/14/2014 1:06:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bending_rodriguez]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Badass Man, Nice job with everything! ETA: pic thread 
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Posted: 12/14/2014 2:58:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JBecker_72]
[#17]
My KISS rifle. I wish it were a lightweight carbine upper rather than M4, but oh well. Even with the rail on there it's a very light and handy rifle.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 4:17:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Badass Man, Nice job with everything! ETA: pic thread http://i61.tinypic.com/29v1l5z.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Badass Man, Nice job with everything! ETA: pic thread http://i61.tinypic.com/29v1l5z.jpg Dig that short barrel. I may have to SBR. What can you do. |
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Posted: 12/14/2014 4:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
Dig that short barrel. I may have to SBR. What can you do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Badass Man, Nice job with everything! ETA: pic thread http://i61.tinypic.com/29v1l5z.jpg Dig that short barrel. I may have to SBR. What can you do. Do it! I have a new Colt 14.5 barrel that I was going to build into another KISS, but I might chop it to 11.5. I love my 12.5 
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:01:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg WOW! 
That turned out to be pretty f'ing awesome. Well worth the time you put into that build. 
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:26:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing:
WOW!
That turned out to be pretty f'ing awesome. Well worth the time you put into that build.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing:
Originally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By 2336:
Greenleaf, that came out really nice! All ya need now is to get this from Zahal! You might want to ditch the 1-point bungee sling and substitute The IDF Emblem Sling or the Sayaret - Special Forces sling Thanks! I was so dam tired, I forgot to post a glamour shot! http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IMG_5023_zpsf5f3b94d.jpg WOW!
That turned out to be pretty f'ing awesome. Well worth the time you put into that build.
Cheers, Bru! Thanks for the compliment. Means a lot old friend. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:51:33 PM EDT
[#22]
Almost done with my budget IDF clone. Still not sure what im going to do barrel wise yet, im really wanting to get an 11.5 or 12.5, but im also just thinking about going the standard 14.5 route.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:10:38 PM EDT
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Is this still KISS?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:16:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:47:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greenleaf:
There are some really nice KISS carbines here. I really dig the IDF guns. Here's pics of the "IDF Clone" I just put together. I took pics along the way. I started with an old, generic lower I built from 80% and did a krappy krylon paint job on just to dull "the shine". I got the upper from an old, Colt parts kit and the 16" pencil barrel from Daniel Defense. I sent the bbl, sight base and hider to ADCO to be cut and pinned to 16" overall. Super fast turn around on ADCO service btw. The aluminum stock came from EE. Parts http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4859_zpsc3f87a4a.jpg Disassembling lower. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4905_zps39b46edf.jpg Lower ready for stripping. I decided to leave the upper original to see how close Norell's Moly Resin Grayish Flat Black would match. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4912_zpsa6535ac7.jpg Lower after I put it in the blasting cabinet. Aluminum oxide at about 90 psi. I did the same to the buffer tube as it had a funky, green anodizing on it. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4918_zps3792d4e8.jpg Warming-up parts for Norell's. Norell's recommends 100 degree pre-heat for applying the moly resin with an airbrush. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4919_zps06bde7fc.jpg Parts after new finish was applied. The Norell's was surprisingly easy and forgiving as I do not possess mad airbrush skillz. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4922_zps3cfef935.jpg Painted lower next to original upper finish. Pretty damn close although I don't need a perfect match. That's for shoes and purses. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4928_zpsd7ed3b4f.jpg Barrel assembly back from ADCO. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4948_zpsccd1a842.jpg Closeup of the underside of the hider showing where it had been pinned and welded. This photo was taken after I used the Dremel to flatten and smooth the weld a little. It came back from ADCO nice and clean. I just thought the weld was sticking out a bit high. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4950_zps7cdb04d9.jpg Lower reassembled http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4953_zps3b49e285.jpg I re-parkerized the hider to clean it up a bit. You can still clearly see the pinned area as it parked lighter than the hider. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4981_zpsc5635f5a.jpg Reassembled http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4988_zps538a3070.jpg Closeup of receiver. http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii519/Greenleaf027/IDF%20Clone%202014/IMG_4990_zpsec88d489.jpg That turned out great, and idk if you're married or not, but I can't help but get this picture of your wife opening up the oven and seeing gun parts baking like a thanksgiving turkey with a look on her face, out of my head for some reason lmao
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Posted: 12/24/2014 6:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By para_frame:
Is this still KISS? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/paraframe/20141221_174921_zps9bbj8zyk.jpg Nice, I want to try out a TA33 on my retro inspired carbine. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 7:35:38 PM EDT
[#27]
BCM lower with Vltor A5 buffer system With MOE fixed carbine stock; BCM lightweight barrel and bolt carrier
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:45:37 PM EDT
[#28]
some more
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Posted: 12/25/2014 7:29:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW:
some more http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af236/onehalfmvsquared/hobby/RRAMidFix_zps192dd0a6.jpg http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af236/onehalfmvsquared/hobby/A1145LWMid_zps31cf5c1d.jpg http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af236/onehalfmvsquared/hobby/115A1PistolSigBrace_zps08766524.jpg What are you using as the anti-beard-snagger on Rifle #2? |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 8:09:09 PM EDT
[#30]
a cut section of bicycle innertube. most people have no idea what it's for
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Posted: 12/25/2014 8:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW:
a cut section of bicycle innertube. most people have no idea what it's for As a fellow beardy, I've been looking for better fixes than the electrical tape I'm using now and the inner tube idea looks like it will work better than the tape. 
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Posted: 12/31/2014 7:05:34 PM EDT
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Received a .625" FSB
 baby steps, right?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2014 7:33:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hipower90]
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Posted: 1/7/2015 4:00:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:02:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
[#35]
NoDak XM16e1 shipped today
straight to CS223 to get engraved for a F1
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Posted: 1/7/2015 6:29:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 19119640]
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kobi:
As a fellow beardy, I've been looking for better fixes than the electrical tape I'm using now and the inner tube idea looks like it will work better than the tape. I use a black wristband. Fabric soft and warm in the cold! |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 8:37:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2015 10:37:53 PM EDT
[#39]
I love it!. I plan on building a 16" version of this, sans can sadly. What does she weigh?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 19119640:
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Posted: 1/9/2015 9:10:05 PM EDT
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Bushmaster teardrop forward assist, just the assist, on sale at Brownells. $5.99
100-015-495WB AR15/M16 Teardrop Forward Assist (no spring or pin) Mfr Part: F1000812 |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 11:10:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bending_rodriguez]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Bushmaster teardrop forward assist, just the assist, on sale at Brownells. $5.99 100-015-495WB AR15/M16 Teardrop Forward Assist (no spring or pin) Mfr Part: F1000812 Shipping is 8 bucks 
Anyone have a line on a m16a1 slip ring(just the ring), and from a reputable place? ETA: VERY nice rifle 1911.... ETA: member here hooked me up with the slip ring! |
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Posted: 1/15/2015 1:34:05 AM EDT
[#42]
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS."
Psh. KISS: 
Don't you realize that your iron sights have... like 87 moving parts or something and could fail at any minute? 
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2015 1:52:41 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS." Psh. KISS: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/9800337E-2301-43A0-9682-CE66522C9671_zpsebikooip.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/AE8CA758-55D2-47F2-AC13-4194AE24E96A_zps1bzcif0r.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/92192867-607C-4CBC-B096-B9906652785B_zps4u8oqtce.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/5DBA7BAE-1316-4382-AE75-C3423A4B7043_zpslxcukueb.jpg Don't you realize that your iron sights have... like 87 moving parts or something and could fail at any minute?
~Augee Augee, Can we get some background on what the hell that thing is? I don't recall seeing anything like it. |
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Posted: 1/15/2015 2:01:12 AM EDT
[#44]
It is an M231 port gun. It is designed to be used in the Bradley fighting vehicle.
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Posted: 1/15/2015 3:39:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Yup, the M231 Port Firing Weapon -
Open bolt M16 designed to be fired from inside of a Bradley, aimed using M196 tracers and a periscope. Selections for further reading: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/459672_M231_Firing_Port_Weapon_Review________56K_MASSACRE______________.htmlhttp://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/459672_M231_Firing_Port_Weapon_Review________56K_MASSACRE______________.html http://209.251.48.101/forums/t_3_123/575121_.html http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=623069 http://209.251.48.101/forums/t_3_118/610478__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Need_Help_Understand_Old_Colt_M231_Port_Weapon.html&page=1 ~Augee |
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Posted: 1/15/2015 8:37:19 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS." ~Augee Needs more Sig Brace.
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Posted: 1/15/2015 10:57:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hipower90]
[#47]
Awesome. I remember when those dedicated port firing M16s came out. Yes, I'm old and chit.
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Posted: 1/15/2015 12:48:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hipower90:
Awesome. I remember when those dedicated port firing M16s came out. Yes, I'm old and chit. IIRC correctly, the ROF was insane! |
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Posted: 1/15/2015 1:04:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Augee]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BePhreed:
Needs more Sig Brace. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BePhreed:
Originally Posted By Augee:
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS." ~Augee Needs more Sig Brace. 
Actually - the Sig Brace - used "as designed" might actually be useful with this sucker - the barrel: 
It's almost as heavy as the one H&K decided to put on the MR556.
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Posted: 1/15/2015 1:11:25 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Actually - the Sig Brace - used "as designed" might actually be useful with this sucker - the barrel: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/M231R.jpg It's almost as heavy as the one H&K decided to put on the MR556.
~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By BePhreed:
Originally Posted By Augee:
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS." ~Augee Needs more Sig Brace.
Actually - the Sig Brace - used "as designed" might actually be useful with this sucker - the barrel: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/M231R.jpg It's almost as heavy as the one H&K decided to put on the MR556.
~Augee Does look hefty but I can see why for an open bolt design. How many of the parts did you have to alter or get manufactured vs using original parts? I knew an old importer who had some original upper receivers and other parts for them and was always tempted to pick some up. |
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