I went in to my favorite firearms dealer yesterday and had a couple boxes of Sierra Match Kings in my hand waiting to be rung up when I saw these. I set the bullets down and asked to see it and at first glance it looks and feels like a standard AR. I have been considering getting a 10/22 for teaching the kids and getting a .22 conversion kit or uppper for my AR-15 to shoot with them but I saw myself being able to do both with this rifle. I have to agree with those who have posted what they do not like about it but I think for what you are paying for you it is a good buy.

The fire/safety selector for me isn't that big of a deal b/c it will make sure the kids do not accidently take off the safety, just in case. The first thing I wanted to know was if I could remove the flash hider and I have read here that it can be removed and I will just have Tim @ Suppressed Armaments Systems thread me a flash hider to put on it. After coming back from the store and being excited about purchasing one of these rifles I started looking up the dedicated uppers and the cheaper ones were $500+ and I do not feel comfortable using a conversion on my 5.56 barrel with my .308 suppressor. So after reading the posts in this thread and considering I look forward to teaching the kids with it I will be getting one.

P.S. I'm no Colt fanboy and actually kinda think they are funny...I am happy with my Armalite.

However the warranty on this does really bother me:

Limited One Year Warranty
This product is warranted to the original owner for 1 year from date of purchase against defects in material and workmanship and is not transferable.

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Replacement parts and labor.

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I completely agree.

This pot metal toy is tainting my favorite brand.

I am up to 525 flawless rounds of Federal 22lr HV.  Shot my Colt M4 afterwards and what a boom that firestick has.  Spent about the same amount of money on ammo for two mags in my 5.56 M4 as I have in a whole box of 22lr through the 22.r M4.

I could see this rifle having a purpose for training in addition to the cheap fun factor.  The bolt release doesn't function like on your standard AR15... but everything else has the same feel.

I also did a complete teardown and cleaning of the weapon. I should post some advice for tear down so owners don't loose parts or freak themselves out thinking that they assembled it incorrectly......

Please do post how you did your teardown. I brought mine home today and read the manual, they say to clean the bore from the chamber but don't tell you how to remove the bolt carrier.

check out 22tactical.com, there is a lot more interest over there on this topic.

22tactical.com... Isn't that an oxymoron?

.... he says as he types using his "tactial" keyboard and mouse..... with his trust tactical coffee mug.... and tactical underwear.....

The salesman and I were laughing about that on the outside of the box, it is sort of strange.

Got my thread adapter from Gemtech - mounted with no problems.

Used it to mount a bi-lock for use with my Gemtech M4-96D.

Tested concentricity with 22LR ram-rod - straight as any other I've tested and used with this method.

Haven't fired it yet with the suppressor.


Note:
That gap should not be there between the adapter and the barrel-shroud.

Gemtech got an early rifle and designed their adapter from it - the rifle design changed in production.

The adapter is in the mail back to Gemtech and they are altering it for the new design.



Photos:

I'm not trying to be a diock but it looks crooked to me, maybe it is just an optical illusion. Is the molded plastic that shrouds the barrel not level with the barrel?

God that magazine looks ugly!

You are probably right.

That gap should not be there between the adapter and the barrel-shroud.

Gemtech got an early rifle and designed their adapter from it - the rifle design changed in production.

The adapter is in the mail back to Gemtech and they are altering it for the new design.

thats good atleast, I would hate to see you have baffle strikes b/c they made a booky adapter.

I don't think it's a matter of a booky adapter but of a booky gun they are trying to make an adapter for.

Yea, it's not the AR 22LR conversion/stand-alone to end all, but it's alot of fun - mine works well and seems well built for what it is.

Very nice through the upper/lower reciever area, but the shrouded barrel is a little light - my M4-96D takes care of that.

I hear plenty of moaning about the Spikes conversion ................ and it's supposed to be the "real thing" ..........

I have a 5.5" Kuehl 22LR conversion with a Gemtech Hornet suppressor on it for my factory Colt M16-A1 and semi-auto wise the new Colt/22 is just as much as fun and both are 100% reliable - can't wait to try it suppressed.

I've had good luck with CCI Mini-Mags, CCI Blazers, and Winchester DynaPoints - standardized on DynaPoints because they are rated high-velocity but stay sub-sonic - plus they run well in both guns.

Like my Kuehl conversion, the barrel is set back due to the nature of the 22LR conversion (very short action) and it gives the Colt/22 the impression of a true 14.5" barrel.

I had the same impression as you until I got to handle one - give one a try when you get a chance.

Granted, it's not for everyone - just like any firearm.

Don't believe all you read ..... I was starting too until I get some experience with one.

Excellent.  I see you found the info.

Yea, thanks for the heads-up.

Is Gemtech going to do a re-call on these or what?

Kel (of Gemtech) told me to just send mine in ..........

I contacted Tim at Suppressed Armament Systems to make me an threaded flash hider to fit on this and he said it won't be a problem.

link: www.snipercompany.com

That is what I did, just sent them back about 5 minutes ago.