Just got the e-mail specials, what the hell was wolf thinking marking all the boxes with a big WPA Hell, I liked the picture of the wolf myself. really looks goofy now, crazy Russians
Posted: 1/28/2011 2:53:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Wolf is now WPA
BECAUSE
it will now do TWO things
Wolf performance ammunition
AND
Wolf performance arms
YUP, new cool things happening.....AND.....(its now made at Barnaul)
Posted: 1/28/2011 3:24:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted: Wolf is now WPA
BECAUSE
it will now do TWO things
Wolf performance ammunition
AND
Wolf performance arms
YUP, new cool things happening.....AND.....(its now made at Barnaul)
Wolf made guns????
Hrmmm tell me more
So, it's made at Barnaul now, so no more of the silver bear, or brown bear? I know it was made at Barnaul... Or are they just expanding Barnaul?
Either way, them Russians know how to get the American $$$
Guess it's just a coincidence that WPA was name of a 1930's gov project
Posted: 1/28/2011 3:27:52 PM EDT
[#3]
bear ammo will still be around
Posted: 1/28/2011 5:26:13 PM EDT
[#4]
W orks P rogress A dministration
Will the incoming *Silver Bear* still be called / labeled *Silver Bear* ?
Posted: 1/28/2011 6:50:29 PM EDT
[#5]
yup, different importers
Posted: 1/29/2011 8:04:18 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted: W orks P rogress A dministration
Will the incoming *Silver Bear* still be called / labeled *Silver Bear* ?
That's exactly what I thought when I seen the new boxs
I think the WPA as a gov administration was a failure though?
It's the WOLF PERFORMANCE ARMS has me scratching my head though..... hrmm, it would have to be sporting guns in order to come from Russia?
Posted: 1/29/2011 9:11:30 AM EDT
[#7]
new saiga importer
Posted: 1/29/2011 9:18:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted: new saiga importer
I see for how long though who knows
Posted: 1/29/2011 9:29:10 AM EDT
[#9]
Goodie goodie.
Posted: 1/29/2011 10:15:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Would you know if the new Barnaul ammo be the same quality was it was over a decade ago? I remember whitebox Barnaul being VERY accurate and clean.
Posted: 1/29/2011 4:02:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Barnual is the best Russian ammo
Posted: 1/29/2011 6:04:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted: Barnual is the best Russian ammo
So is all WPA ammunition made by Barnaul now? I wasn't aware Barnaul used poly coated cases.
Is there an ETA on more Brown Bear coming in?
Posted: 1/29/2011 7:15:25 PM EDT
[#13]
some handgun ammo will not be made by them, yes barnaul can make all kinds of coated steel cases.
more brown bear soon
Posted: 1/30/2011 5:27:32 AM EDT
[#14]
Damn, so now I'm gonna be wrong when I go on my spiel about how Wolf is just an importer and their ammo is made at Tula and Ulyanovsk
Posted: 1/31/2011 2:23:35 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted: yes barnaul can make all kinds of coated steel cases.
yup. the polymer coating is the new standard coating for the russian military IIRC. so all russian plants have the ability to produce it.
Posted: 2/5/2011 9:02:35 AM EDT
[#16]
So will WPA be as good as or better than Wolf Military Classic?
Posted: 2/5/2011 11:50:39 AM EDT
[#17]
yes better
Posted: 2/6/2011 11:18:04 AM EDT
[#18]
Any Softpoint coming?
Posted: 2/7/2011 7:52:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Will the WPA MC have the 8M3 effect bullet?
Posted: 2/8/2011 1:43:11 PM EDT
[#20]
I put in an order for a case of it today along with some federal.
I haven't tried it in a long time and have a class coming up so let's see how it does.
Posted: 2/9/2011 2:03:35 PM EDT
[#21]
So will this be loaded hotter than military classic? will it burn cleaner?
Posted: 2/10/2011 3:06:07 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: Will the WPA MC have the 8M3 effect bullet?
+1 I would like to know this too.
Posted: 2/10/2011 5:25:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted: Will the WPA MC have the 8M3 effect bullet?
+1 I would like to know this too.
i'm not sure, i will try to look tomorrow
Posted: 2/11/2011 2:11:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Bryan,
Do you have details on which calibers/offerings come from which plants? I'm particularly interested in 9mm and .223. Are either or both of these now sourced from Barnaul?
Posted: 2/17/2011 11:13:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Anyone shoot the .223 55grn FMJ WPA ammo yet?
I put 500 rounds of the military classic through my DDM4 with no issues. Put 100 rounds of Tula through and had two failure to fires. Great deal on the WPA right now if you buy 2 cases, just wondering how it compares.
thanks
-Mike
Posted: 2/17/2011 11:30:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Just shot 200 rounds of it on Sunday with no issues.
Posted: 2/17/2011 11:49:54 AM EDT
[#27]
I have a case of it sitting on my bench. It will be going to a carbine class next week.
I will report back.
Posted: 2/17/2011 12:05:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: Bryan,
Do you have details on which calibers/offerings come from which plants? I'm particularly interested in 9mm and .223. Are either or both of these now sourced from Barnaul?
all rifle calibers and 9mm is by Barnaul at this time
Posted: 4/14/2011 6:09:07 AM EDT
[#29]
Question on this WPA - now it is made at Barnaul, is its performance more along the lines (perhaps the same, even....) of the Bear stuff rather than the weaker Tula? If it plays more like Brown Bear than the Wolf of old, I'll be giving it a try.
Posted: 4/14/2011 6:49:23 AM EDT
[#30]
more like the bear
Posted: 4/14/2011 9:37:56 AM EDT
[#31]
I dumped 1k through my AR, no cleaning, fired flawlessly. Good stuff.
Posted: 4/14/2011 7:47:28 PM EDT
[#32]
I ran a couple hundred of the .223 through my AR, no problems but gotta say my bolt carrier group was pretty dirty afterwards.
Much dirtier than what I'm used to shooting, brass cased XM193.... but the price is right and the rifle can be cleaned...
Posted: 4/16/2011 6:42:57 PM EDT
[#33]
I ran through 100 rnds of the the WPA today in an A2. I had no problems at all.