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Posted: 9/24/2009 7:26:56 PM EDT
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The "base" is 1.100" with the knurled shaft at 1.000". Length is 1.800". Thanks, do you like the way it feels? Delrin is about 11 bucks shipped for a 12"x1.25" piece on eBay will probably make my own on my uncles lathe, maybe experiment some and see what I can come up with... I'd say I like it quite a bit...they're on everyone of my six rifles! Good luck on turning your own! You'll have to post some pics! Did you ever try one where you milled out the core just before the threads start for the screws? From my solid works model it says it would reduce almost half the weight but would it be able to withstand some abuse. |
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Posted: 9/25/2009 2:56:45 AM EDT
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Only 6???  I'm still trying to catch up with my hero!
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Posted: 9/25/2009 3:05:34 AM EDT
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The "base" is 1.100" with the knurled shaft at 1.000". Length is 1.800". Thanks, do you like the way it feels? Delrin is about 11 bucks shipped for a 12"x1.25" piece on eBay will probably make my own on my uncles lathe, maybe experiment some and see what I can come up with... I'd say I like it quite a bit...they're on everyone of my six rifles! Good luck on turning your own! You'll have to post some pics! Did you ever try one where you milled out the core just before the threads start for the screws? From my solid works model it says it would reduce almost half the weight but would it be able to withstand some abuse. No never tried that...but that's not my department! I'm simply the salesperson! AA-Wolf from a few posts above is the actual mastermind behind these. He uses solid works I believe to draw these, but I don't know how many versions he drew before settling on this design? |
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Posted: 9/25/2009 3:32:53 AM EDT
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The "base" is 1.100" with the knurled shaft at 1.000". Length is 1.800". Thanks, do you like the way it feels? Delrin is about 11 bucks shipped for a 12"x1.25" piece on eBay will probably make my own on my uncles lathe, maybe experiment some and see what I can come up with... I'd say I like it quite a bit...they're on everyone of my six rifles! Good luck on turning your own! You'll have to post some pics! Did you ever try one where you milled out the core just before the threads start for the screws? From my solid works model it says it would reduce almost half the weight but would it be able to withstand some abuse. No never tried that...but that's not my department! I'm simply the salesperson! AA-Wolf from a few posts above is the actual mastermind behind these. He uses solid works I believe to draw these, but I don't know how many versions he drew before settling on this design? Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 2:27:56 PM EDT
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Look what I got in the mail today (VFG)!
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Posted: 10/5/2009 3:39:57 PM EDT
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Look what I got in the mail today (VFG)! http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt232/operator1911/DSC02555.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt232/operator1911/DSC02557.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt232/operator1911/DSC02561.jpg Where in the Hell did you get one of those!!! 
Hope you like it as much as we love ours! Thanks again and your pics rock! 
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Posted: 10/5/2009 3:54:48 PM EDT
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Thanks!
I think I got it from some guy in FL. Love it by the way, its so simple its brilliant. Thanks again for making a few available. Operator1911 |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 4:07:46 PM EDT
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Here's the EE link... Stubby VFG for MOE HG Mods...if this is an issue please inform. Last thing I want is to disrespect the forum. This is a one time deal using up the remaining material we used to make our personal VFG's. This is not a production item that we will continue to sell. That's not what we do for a living...we're simply a machine shop. You just made $600.00 in less than 24 hours (minus of costs of course). If these get good feedback it would seem silly not to make more. I agree! I think the boss should set up a dealer account here on the forum and do these on a regular basis. But ultimately it's not my decision! Have you guys thought about seeing if Magpul is interested in aquiring it? I know they have repeatedly stated they did not want to produce one in a saturated market, but this thread has shown just how much hunger there is for one, especially for use with the MOE handguards. If you are definately not making any more, then I don't see the harm in at least trying, and it keeps a really cool product intact. Strictly speaking, after all, it is not a rail mounted VFG. |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 4:27:16 PM EDT
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Here's the EE link... Stubby VFG for MOE HG Mods...if this is an issue please inform. Last thing I want is to disrespect the forum. This is a one time deal using up the remaining material we used to make our personal VFG's. This is not a production item that we will continue to sell. That's not what we do for a living...we're simply a machine shop. You just made $600.00 in less than 24 hours (minus of costs of course). If these get good feedback it would seem silly not to make more. I agree! I think the boss should set up a dealer account here on the forum and do these on a regular basis. But ultimately it's not my decision! Have you guys thought about seeing if Magpul is interested in aquiring it? I know they have repeatedly stated they did not want to produce one in a saturated market, but this thread has shown just how much hunger there is for one, especially for use with the MOE handguards. If you are definately not making any more, then I don't see the harm in at least trying, and it keeps a really cool product intact. Strictly speaking, after all, it is not a rail mounted VFG. That would be cool. Ultimately it's the bossman's design/drawing so I don't know what he'd think about that. I wouldn't even know where to begin on approaching MagPul? |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 4:33:27 PM EDT
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Here's the EE link... Stubby VFG for MOE HG Mods...if this is an issue please inform. Last thing I want is to disrespect the forum. This is a one time deal using up the remaining material we used to make our personal VFG's. This is not a production item that we will continue to sell. That's not what we do for a living...we're simply a machine shop. You just made $600.00 in less than 24 hours (minus of costs of course). If these get good feedback it would seem silly not to make more. I agree! I think the boss should set up a dealer account here on the forum and do these on a regular basis. But ultimately it's not my decision! Have you guys thought about seeing if Magpul is interested in aquiring it? I know they have repeatedly stated they did not want to produce one in a saturated market, but this thread has shown just how much hunger there is for one, especially for use with the MOE handguards. If you are definately not making any more, then I don't see the harm in at least trying, and it keeps a really cool product intact. Strictly speaking, after all, it is not a rail mounted VFG. That would be cool. Ultimately it's the bossman's design/drawing so I don't know what he'd think about that. I wouldn't even know where to begin on approaching MagPul? I would guess that dropping an email to Rich, Drake, Justin, Travis, or Chris might get the ball rolling. They all hang out in here, after all. Not much on commenting lately, but pretty sure they still read up in here. I know that Justin's is jbeardatmagpuldotcom, but not sure of the others. I also know that while Justin and Drake are really good about answering emails, any email that has a product suggestion sort of... disappears. Not sure if that is just me, though. I am sure if you just ask Justin how you would go about it, he can point you in the right direction. You guys could have charged a lot more for those stubbies you sold, so I am pretty sure you are in it more for a love of the product then trying to make the big bucks. I hope it works out. Especially since I did not see your post in time.  One of your stubbies with the Magpul MIAD-style stipling grip would rock.
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Posted: 10/5/2009 4:33:58 PM EDT
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Let's see how everyone likes them before any real decisions are made.
I know I have loved using a short VFG for a few years now, actually had a few made for M4 HG's; that's where the Irish boy (Eringobragh) saw it and wanted one for his MOE. Changed my original design a little and there it was. It does seem like a perfect addition to the MOE and who knows, maybe Magpul will contact us! Thanks Operator1911 for posting the cool pics. Mike |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 4:40:48 PM EDT
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Let's see how everyone likes them before any real decisions are made. I know I have loved using a short VFG for a few years now, actually had a few made for M4 HG's; that's where the Irish boy (Eringobragh) saw it and wanted one for his MOE. Changed my original design a little and there it was. It does seem like a perfect addition to the MOE and who knows, maybe Magpul will contact us! Thanks Operator1911 for posting the cool pics. Mike From the Bossman himself! 
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Posted: 10/5/2009 5:49:00 PM EDT
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Need to get better pictures, but it's dark outside and I don't have a studio...
Betcha didn't think it works on a standard forend! I want to make a little bracket on to span the space between the vent holes to add a little support since the screws are just holding the edges, but it feels pretty solid as is. You guys can go ahead and steal that idea if you decide to move into production or anything, I won't sue. Maybe just ask for a couple more grips or something... |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 6:02:02 PM EDT
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Need to get better pictures, but it's dark outside and I don't have a studio... http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3858/a2wvertgrip.jpg http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4315/vertgrip.jpg http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3745/lowerhandguardinsidewit.jpg Betcha didn't think it works on a standard forend! I want to make a little bracket on to span the space between the vent holes to add a little support since the screws are just holding the edges, but it feels pretty solid as is. You guys can go ahead and steal that idea if you decide to move into production or anything, I won't sue. Maybe just ask for a couple more grips or something... Op, Glad it arrived! The design actually originated for standard HG's! Maybe AA Wolf has some pics? He modified the design when I whined about wanting some for my MOES! |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 6:05:54 PM EDT
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Ha, cool.
Out of curiosity, what was changed? |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 6:18:59 PM EDT
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Ha, cool. Out of curiosity, what was changed? AA Wolf would have to chime in on this. I had only seen his mounted...never saw the attachment point. There may have been a nub that fit into the vent hole and a singular button head screw. |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 6:40:53 PM EDT
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I used a single large screw (3/8" I believe) and had the end of the VFG that went up againist the HG rounded to fit the contour, that way it could not rotate. I can post a few pics if you want to see.
You will want to add that bracket to the VFG before you do any serious shooting. The HG won't take much to break with that little material holding it on. Better to be safe then broken! It looks just like what I use to run from the outside. 
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Posted: 10/5/2009 6:47:14 PM EDT
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Like I said, it feels pretty solid as is, but yeah, I was thinking just some sort of sheet metal bracket to just even things out a little. Just gotta find some stuff and the time...
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Posted: 10/5/2009 8:20:08 PM EDT
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Let's see how everyone likes them before any real decisions are made. I know I have loved using a short VFG for a few years now, actually had a few made for M4 HG's; that's where the Irish boy (Eringobragh) saw it and wanted one for his MOE. Changed my original design a little and there it was. It does seem like a perfect addition to the MOE and who knows, maybe Magpul will contact us! Thanks Operator1911 for posting the cool pics. Mike From the Bossman himself! I'll let the guys who test their stuff fingerbang'm in our Nov class. |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 1:20:35 AM EDT
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Got mine on Friday too. Looks and feels awesome. Not that I was expecting it to be heavy......but damn is it light. Exactly what I've been looking for.
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Posted: 10/6/2009 6:01:10 AM EDT
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Loving mine too! Haven't had time to take better pics though, so this will have to do.
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Posted: 10/6/2009 7:35:48 PM EDT
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received mine as well. love the grip. nice and tight feel. will post pics when i have a chance
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Posted: 10/13/2009 9:43:47 AM EDT
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Please let me know if y'all decide to do another run of 'em!
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Posted: 10/13/2009 11:12:16 AM EDT
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Please let me know if y'all decide to do another run of 'em! This...................just got a set of MOE HG's and can use one.......
So how about another run of these stops? |
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Posted: 10/16/2009 7:57:09 AM EDT
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I'd take 2 or more if you guys did a second run...
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Posted: 10/16/2009 3:03:44 PM EDT
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I just had a member email me for details of my vfg., he saw it in a pic I posted on another thread....you have some serious interest here eringobragh!
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Posted: 10/16/2009 6:09:47 PM EDT
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What would be cool is if you made something which was more of a hand stop instead of a vertical stick... Kind of like this, but to fit the MOE handguard flush at the base without the need of an added rail section:
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Posted: 10/24/2009 8:48:57 AM EDT
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Tagged for another run (hopefully)...
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Posted: 10/29/2009 2:07:49 PM EDT
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Tagged for another run (hopefully)... I agree. I am hoping for another run too! |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 4:52:56 PM EDT
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Tagged for another run (hopefully)... I agree. I am hoping for another run too! Hold tight...we are discussing another run! Going to get a forum account and I'll start a thread to feel out how many to make this run. 
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Posted: 10/30/2009 4:19:40 AM EDT
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I'm tagging this for HOPEFULLY a future product.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:29:51 AM EDT
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I’ve made 3 so far to the same specs as the guy that sold them, and I must say they are perfect for a reference point, I’ve got 2 with groves and one knurled but I don’t like the knurled one as much.
Right now there made out of aluminum but I’ve got some delrin to make a few. If I have time ill post pics some time going to try, to make one out of delrin tonight. |
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Posted: 10/30/2009 7:11:37 AM EDT
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Interesting.
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Posted: 10/31/2009 9:53:10 AM EDT
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I'm tagging this for HOPEFULLY a future product. Here's a link for another run inquiry... SVFG for MOE HG's |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:25:48 AM EDT
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I'm tagging this for HOPEFULLY a future product. Here's a link for another run inquiry... SVFG for MOE HG's Posted in for two. THanks guys |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 2:19:20 PM EDT
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I'm tagging this for HOPEFULLY a future product. Here's a link for another run inquiry... SVFG for MOE HG's Posted in for two. THanks guys I posted as well. Have you guys sent think about sending a 'courtesy pair' to Travis and Chris? Hell, add Drake and Rich into the mix as well. |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 2:28:15 PM EDT
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Here’s some pics of the ones I’ve made so far. Like I said I don’t care for the knurled one mainly because the knurl didn’t turn out like I wanted but with some more practice I might be able to get it to work better. that was my first knurl attempt..
Also the one on the black handguards is bead blasted and looks really neat in person. the delrin turned out nicely in the pics its still pretty dirty and all the white lent from my pocket showed up clearly. Didn’t take a pic of the aluminum on the scale but it was just over an ounce like 1.24 ounces. So far I like the thin groves the best the one i painted green is a thicker grove compared to the delrin and the bead blasted grip. 
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Posted: 10/31/2009 4:02:18 PM EDT
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I like the thin grooves as well, good work!
This is really making me think hard about getting a Mini-Lathe or taking a road trip to my grandfather's for the weekend and use his lathe. I should spend some time with them anyway. Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted: 1/10/2010 4:58:49 PM EDT
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My 75 year old grandpa turned this for me today.
He's pretty set in his way of doing it himself so unfortunately I didn't get any lathe time. It felt pretty weird being a 31 year old adult and still having your grandpa doing things for you. hahahah The design is mine. What do you think? |
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Posted: 1/10/2010 5:42:36 PM EDT
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My 75 year old grandpa turned this for me today. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/millsusaf/Misc/DSC05370.jpg He's pretty set in his way of doing it himself so unfortunately I didn't get any lathe time. It felt pretty weird being a 31 year old adult and still having your grandpa doing things for you. hahahah The design is mine. What do you think? I like it. I wish my Grandpa was around to be doing things with. |
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Posted: 1/10/2010 7:07:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2010 10:45:09 PM EDT
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I hope this is a hint of what's being announced at Shot. 
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Posted: 1/11/2010 4:24:25 AM EDT
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Amazingly he expressed interest in making more. Is there any interest here for these? The design could certainly change although I'd rather only have him make one design as he doesn't have much in the patience category anymore.
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