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Posted: 1/11/2011 6:08:04 AM EDT
Any chance of white PMags or MagPul furniture so we can dye our own colors as shown in the magazine forum thread?
FDE works, but only goes so far. White would give us so many more options. here toy go |
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I've asked before and will chip in here again in support of the concept.
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Could be labeled as winter camo and not just for dying purposes.
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It's pretty incredible what some people are able to do with polymer and rit dye.
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Could be labeled as winter camo and not just for dying purposes. I agree with you 100% and hope our friends at Magpul are listening |
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Could be labeled as winter camo and not just for dying purposes. My thoughts exactly. Have Magpul furniture on my AR10 and was thinking of painting my old take off furniture white for snow camo. White Magpul furniture would be very cool! ARKAR |
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I can't say I'd ever do it on my rifle, but I really like the concept.
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IDK about labeling them as "dye-able" but winter is a good idea, solid white isn't very winter camo tho. light dusting of gray/black from a airbrush would fix it... unless they can figure out how to randomize gray/black color swirls in the polymer...
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IDK about labeling them as "dye-able" but winter is a good idea, solid white isn't very winter camo tho. light dusting of gray/black from a airbrush would fix it... unless they can figure out how to randomize gray/black color swirls in the polymer... There is your answer right there. |
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IDK about labeling them as "dye-able" but winter is a good idea, solid white isn't very winter camo tho. light dusting of gray/black from a airbrush would fix it... unless they can figure out how to randomize gray/black color swirls in the polymer... There is your answer right there. Not at all. Swirly colored polymer would defeat the utility of white as a "dye host" for lighter/brighter colors. |
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IDK about labeling them as "dye-able" but winter is a good idea, solid white isn't very winter camo tho. light dusting of gray/black from a airbrush would fix it... unless they can figure out how to randomize gray/black color swirls in the polymer... There is your answer right there. Not at all. Swirly colored polymer would defeat the utility of white as a "dye host" for lighter/brighter colors. I wonder what the undyed polymer looks like? Is it white to start with? |
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I think this came up once before and Drake indicated that the exact mix of each color needs to be tested for strength to ensure that it is up to snuff, and that it isn't as simple as adding or taking away dye. Not sure where the topic went...but it couldn't have been more than 5 or 6 months old
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I'm sure they would test they crap out of it to see if the component would break down under solvents and what not. That is a given. Just wondered if they had even considered it?
ETA: Even if they did venture a response here to the affirmative, people would flood them with 'When is it coming out?" So it's probably a question that for now is a wish. |
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Has anyone dyed Larue's UDE mags and products to see how well it excepts color? I'm thinking about doing all pink for my girlfriend.
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Quoted: Has anyone dyed Larue's UDE mags and products to see how well it excepts color? I'm thinking about doing all pink for my girlfriend. Blasphemy. I kid. I have wondered the same. I think the UDE would make a great host for a dye-ing project. |
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I'd think this would be tough to achieve and it'd probably piss off anyone who didn't want to dye them. Potential yellowing, fouling from powder, etc. It might be a major headache. It'd look awesome for a while though!
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I may be misrememberating and therefore completely out of my lane, but isn't the polymer just colored pellets fed into the molding machine? Seems like whatever color is fed into the hopper is the same color that comes out, at least that's what it seemed like when I took a quick tour of a local shop back in school. They'd just have to spec white from their polymer supplier as opposed to FDE, black, etc. provided that the formulation for white is of the same quality as the stuff they get now.
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I may be misrememberating and therefore completely out of my lane, but isn't the polymer just colored pellets fed into the molding machine? Seems like whatever color is fed into the hopper is the same color that comes out, at least that's what it seemed like when I took a quick tour of a local shop back in school. They'd just have to spec white from their polymer supplier as opposed to FDE, black, etc. provided that the formulation for white is of the same quality as the stuff they get now. No, you are right, at least that's how it's done in the lamination process of flexible packaging. ARKAR |
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Well I didn't notice if anyone had started a petition, so here goes. Never underestimate the power of enthusiastic customers and a polite well written petition. The contents of the petition are in this post below the link. I'm sure most think this would be helpful/cool/marketable. I'd be tempted to rock plain white. If you are interested in white, or the ability to dye other colors (pink, purple, yellow, whatever) Please sign.
White Magpul Polymer Products Petition To: Magpul Industries We would like to start by telling you, the fine people at Magpul Industries that, first and foremost, we love your products. Many of us not only have multiple products adorning our various firearms, but are also viewers of your fabulous education programs. And we'll continue to be loyal customers. The purpose of this petition is that we would like to encourage and request that Magpul add a new color to their line of polymer products. And that color is White. The reasons that we are suggesting white are three fold: First, in northern climates where it snows a great deal, white would be a very nice option. Second, there is a growing community of individuals that have begun to experiment with dying their Magpul products to desired colors. Dying has the advantage over painting of not adding anything to the dimensions of products. White would also be a perfect base color, making it easier to achieve the desired colors, especially lighter target colors. (I'm sure there are people that might want pink or yellow Magpul furniture, those colors are currently impossible, or at least incredible difficult.) Third and Finally, We think white would look pretty slick! We know that you careful consider the input from operators when it comes to designing and releasing products, we only ask you to consider this option as well. Thank you very much for your time and consideration! Sincerely, Mock-up |
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Quoted: Well I didn't notice if anyone had started a petition, so here goes. Never underestimate the power of enthusiastic customers and a polite well written petition. The contents of the petition are in this post below the link. I'm sure most think this would be helpful/cool/marketable. I'd be tempted to rock plain white. If you are interested in white, or the ability to dye other colors (pink, purple, yellow, whatever) Please sign. White Magpul Polymer Products Petition To: Magpul Industries We would like to start by telling you, the fine people at Magpul Industries that, first and foremost, we love your products. Many of us not only have multiple products adorning our various firearms, but are also viewers of your fabulous education programs. And we'll continue to be loyal customers. The purpose of this petition is that we would like to encourage and request that Magpul add a new color to their line of polymer products. And that color is White. The reasons that we are suggesting white are three fold: First, in northern climates where it snows a great deal, white would be a very nice option. Second, there is a growing community of individuals that have begun to experiment with dying their Magpul products to desired colors. Dying has the advantage over painting of not adding anything to the dimensions of products. White would also be a perfect base color, making it easier to achieve the desired colors, especially lighter target colors. (I'm sure there are people that might want pink or yellow Magpul furniture, those colors are currently impossible, or at least incredible difficult.) Third and Finally, We think white would look pretty slick! We know that you careful consider the input from operators when it comes to designing and releasing products, we only ask you to consider this option as well. Thank you very much for your time and consideration! Sincerely, Mock-up http://i.imgur.com/y7Puv.jpg IBTL |
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Well I didn't notice if anyone had started a petition, so here goes. Never underestimate the power of enthusiastic customers and a polite well written petition. The contents of the petition are in this post below the link. I'm sure most think this would be helpful/cool/marketable. I'd be tempted to rock plain white. If you are interested in white, or the ability to dye other colors (pink, purple, yellow, whatever) Please sign. White Magpul Polymer Products Petition To: Magpul Industries We would like to start by telling you, the fine people at Magpul Industries that, first and foremost, we love your products. Many of us not only have multiple products adorning our various firearms, but are also viewers of your fabulous education programs. And we'll continue to be loyal customers. The purpose of this petition is that we would like to encourage and request that Magpul add a new color to their line of polymer products. And that color is White. The reasons that we are suggesting white are three fold: First, in northern climates where it snows a great deal, white would be a very nice option. Second, there is a growing community of individuals that have begun to experiment with dying their Magpul products to desired colors. Dying has the advantage over painting of not adding anything to the dimensions of products. White would also be a perfect base color, making it easier to achieve the desired colors, especially lighter target colors. (I'm sure there are people that might want pink or yellow Magpul furniture, those colors are currently impossible, or at least incredible difficult.) Third and Finally, We think white would look pretty slick! We know that you careful consider the input from operators when it comes to designing and releasing products, we only ask you to consider this option as well. Thank you very much for your time and consideration! Sincerely, Mock-up http://i.imgur.com/y7Puv.jpg That's great, but I suggest switching the trigger guard to a white magpul enhanced trigger guard. If people use the white as a base for snow camo, they'll probably want a trigger guard that fits their gloves better. |
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Would be great for the Alaskan State Troopers. Hint hint... :-)
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Because white is actually a color additive it would have to be tested to see if it affected the material in an adverse way. We have to go through a full testing cycle on every color we release.
That said it would be easiest to offer the items in a natural state (no color) which is a very light creamy brown. I will bring the subject up but logistically it probably will not be possible. |
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Thanks for at least considering it. |
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That said it would be easiest to offer the items in a natural state (no color) which is a very light creamy brown. That would be perfect for folks who want to do their own dyeing. Just think of how many less requests you would have to deal with for (insert color here) PMags or furniture. |
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That would be perfect for folks who want to do their own dyeing. Just think of how many less requests you would have to deal with for (insert color here) PMags or furniture. That's sound logic. |
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I would offer my services to test what could be done with dye on your natural plastic color.
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Yay, for a super prompt response. I totally wasn't expecting anyone to even look at this in the near future. And here a few days later... :-)
Boo, for limitations of materials engineering, I knew I should studied something besides Computer Science. As a geek I tend to be very interested in the details of how things work and are made. (Hence my first AR was self-built) That said I would love to be a fly on the wall for a day. Or even better, a documentary on the the process. Kinda like those "How it's Made" episode on Discovery/Learning Channel :-( My guess is that the products consist of 3 main parts. (Complete speculation!) Plastic/Polymer, Fiber/reinforcement additive and a Fixing/Hardening agent. I am guessing the natural color comes from one of the last two. That said, I'd love to see what things look like in their natural color. Will cross my fingers just in case it's not completely impossible. |
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I can see it now, "Ready to Dye" kits. Then Magpul partners with RIT and puts up a custom color wheel and custom color mixing option on the site.
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I was going to comment about carbon black reinforcements and why white isnt as easy as "not adding a dye" but wikipedia FTW (note, when you read "rubber", you can also substitute "plastic")
Practically all rubber products where tensile and abrasion wear properties are crucial use carbon black, so they are black in color. Where physical properties are important but colors other than black are desired, such as white tennis shoes, precipitated or fumed silica has been used as a substitute for carbon black in reinforcing ability. Traditionally, silica fillers have worse abrasion wear properties, but the technology has gradually improved to where they can match carbon black abrasion performance [in some applications]. Since magpul is most likely more interested in physical properties, vice color, thats why you end up with the limited colors you have available. |
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I would be in for some type of white camo magpul products. Im wanting to build a dedicated upper for coyote hunting and snow camo would be awesome.
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I can see it now, "Ready to Dye" kits. Then Magpul partners with RIT and puts up a custom color wheel and custom color mixing option on the site. http://www.ritdye.com/colorit_color_formula_guide |
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I can see it now, "Ready to Dye" kits. Then Magpul partners with RIT and puts up a custom color wheel and custom color mixing option on the site. http://www.ritdye.com/colorit_color_formula_guide Just remember that chart assumes a base of white to start with. Orange will react differently with a FDE mag versus a Foliage one. I used a significant amount of pink added to my cherry red to get the color right with a FDE base. Try to think outside the box and don't be afraid to experiment. |
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I can see it now, "Ready to Dye" kits. Then Magpul partners with RIT and puts up a custom color wheel and custom color mixing option on the site. http://www.ritdye.com/colorit_color_formula_guide Just remember that chart assumes a base of white to start with. Orange will react differently with a FDE mag versus a Foliage one. I used a significant amount of pink added to my cherry red to get the color right with a FDE base. Try to think outside the box and don't be afraid to experiment. That's why I like the white LaRue index clips. Not as much experimenting and guessing. |
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Because white is actually a color additive it would have to be tested to see if it affected the material in an adverse way. We have to go through a full testing cycle on every color we release. Well throw some titanium dioxide in there and get to testing! |
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You had me at "white and creamy". But seriously, complete furniture runs of this would rank right up with Barbie pink for MagPul sets that I really want.
If it naturally has a bit of color variation, that's fine too, but a light, faintly brown color would really seem ideal for winter use, and as a RIT platform. |
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I have no need for snow camo but I would buy a set along with a few to dye Red/Blue/Yellow,want and need are two different things
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Offering the undyed products would probably net a pretty good sales upswing. The neutral brownish color as described by the MagPul rep would be a decent color to have in its own right.
Would love a UBR stock and a MOE handguard/pistol grip combo. |
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