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Posted: 10/2/2014 8:42:49 PM EDT
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Slow rod will load up immediately. Seems like a no-brainer.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:32:26 AM EDT
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My all time favorite small stream rod was my 6' 4wt split bamboo rod. Slow as molasses but I could roll cast my way up any small stream and never get into the abundant trees. A slow rod is a much better tool for working in close. As an option you can over line a faster rod to help the load in close. But it will never give that slow goodness feeling...
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Posted: 10/5/2014 12:27:13 AM EDT
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Full-flex 4wt is a good choice. I always seem to pick up my Orvis Superfine 7'6" 4wt for small rivers, tighter spaces. Of course, it takes me a few "wind knots" to remind me to slow the casting and let the rod load up. My fault, not the rod's. Roll casts are a cinch. Don't pass up a small 2wt or 3wt if it's a good price though they generally come as 2 piece rods. They make a small brown seem big (well at least, bigger).
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Posted: 10/10/2014 6:53:24 PM EDT
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Well I ended up buying a Sage 476-4. I test-casted a few other rods at the shop, mostly to get a feel for a slower rod. Then I tried to Sage 476-4 and it was amazing how much better it fit my style (which has adapted to a 9' Sage XP).
On the river I used my 5wt line, which flexes the 4wt rod a little bit more than spec. It's a little tail-heavy with the larger reel, but it wasn't noticeable at all when I was fishing. The rod had lots of backbone to cast as far as I needed (probably ~30ft max casts), and lots of control at short distances. I caught about 6 fish. Catching little river trout on a 4wt pole is a lot more fun than a 5wt pole. It's amazing how much better I could feel them in the fight. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 7:27:21 PM EDT
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Catching little river trout on a 4wt pole is a lot more fun than a 5wt pole. It's amazing how much better I could feel them in the fight. Amen. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 10:07:11 PM EDT
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For what you describe I use a short Okuma 3 wt. The rod was cheap like 90 bucks but I keep choosing it over my TFO and orvis which are 2-3x the cost. this rod is AWESOME for small streams. If you are nymphing it loads up nice and fast it takes a little more work with dries due to its short length. But I love it.
Actually it looks like they lowered the price ALOT. I found it for $37 Im going to pick up another one as a backup. http://www.tacklehaven.com/products/OKUMA-CRISIUM-FLY-RODS.html |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 6:32:34 PM EDT
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$37 ?
Yeah... that's worth a try. Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:18:08 AM EDT
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i like a fast and slow rod dependin on terrain. In a fairly open stream i use a med action, but with overhanging brush, trees, etc. I go fast action. tight loops lets you cast under overhangs. And if its set up my rod, gets some distance on roll casts
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Posted: 10/26/2014 11:23:48 PM EDT
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i like a fast and slow rod dependin on terrain. In a fairly open stream i use a med action, but with overhanging brush, trees, etc. I go fast action. tight loops lets you cast under overhangs. And if its set up my rod, gets some distance on roll casts This is correct for your situation. I would also go toward a 7'6" or shorter rod for such a small stream. 3 or 4 wt. unless its stocked or hold lots of large fish. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 11:59:08 AM EDT
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For Shenandoah backcountry streams I like a short rod with a fast action. Spend a lot of time avoiding mountain laurel and general brush all along the small Brook trout streams. For something small and open, like in the Rocky headwaters, slow would be a better choice for the line pickup.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 1:02:51 PM EDT
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My go to small water rods:
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Posted: 2/12/2015 11:50:40 PM EDT
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I like my my Sage SPL-3 wt for small river brook trout fishing. May be partial to that one because it was the first one I built.
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:32:30 PM EDT
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Quote Historynice brown! |
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Posted: 3/22/2015 4:00:38 PM EDT
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$37 ? Yeah... that's worth a try. Thanks! No kidding! I just ordered one too. I was in the market for another rod and for that price I'll give it a shot. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 6:12:26 AM EDT
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For what you describe I use a short Okuma 3 wt. The rod was cheap like 90 bucks but I keep choosing it over my TFO and orvis which are 2-3x the cost. this rod is AWESOME for small streams. If you are nymphing it loads up nice and fast it takes a little more work with dries due to its short length. But I love it. Actually it looks like they lowered the price ALOT. I found it for $37 Im going to pick up another one as a backup. http://www.tacklehaven.com/products/OKUMA-CRISIUM-FLY-RODS.html Are the Okuma reels decent for a backup/buddy rod & reel? The price is appealling. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:16:22 AM EDT
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Are the Okuma reels decent for a backup/buddy rod & reel? The price is appealling. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For what you describe I use a short Okuma 3 wt. The rod was cheap like 90 bucks but I keep choosing it over my TFO and orvis which are 2-3x the cost. this rod is AWESOME for small streams. If you are nymphing it loads up nice and fast it takes a little more work with dries due to its short length. But I love it. Actually it looks like they lowered the price ALOT. I found it for $37 Im going to pick up another one as a backup. http://www.tacklehaven.com/products/OKUMA-CRISIUM-FLY-RODS.html Are the Okuma reels decent for a backup/buddy rod & reel? The price is appealling. I by no means am a fly rod expert, but I ordered the Okuma and got it two days ago. At least from what I could see as for the workmanship and finish, the rod looks great. I plan on going this weekend and trying it out. I was in the market for another fly rod, but when I saw the price I had to give it a try. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 11:07:02 AM EDT
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To be more specific, I'd be interested in the larger Okuma reels for saltwater use which I've been reluctant to get into because of costs.
While it's always nice to have a high quality reel, it's really not necessary for the lower weight lines. My free hand or a finger is often my drag "system." |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 6:49:31 PM EDT
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That's a great price. I might pick up the SLV, though. I'm more of a 4-pc kinda guy.
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Posted: 5/10/2015 10:48:16 PM EDT
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For really small streams, I pick a rod based on how many trees I have to contend with and therefore the length of rod is more important than the flex (for me).
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Posted: 5/12/2015 10:08:02 PM EDT
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My small stream trout rod is a 7'7, 4wt Scott F2 3piece fiberglass with a Battenkill reel. Loads nice at shorter distance, roll casts nicely and can poke it out there if it needs too.
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Posted: 6/25/2015 10:25:56 AM EDT
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For Shenandoah backcountry streams I like a short rod with a fast action. Spend a lot of time avoiding mountain laurel and general brush all along the small Brook trout streams. For something small and open, like in the Rocky headwaters, slow would be a better choice for the line pickup. For the Shenendoah National Park brookies or for similar small streams and fish I like my 6'11" 3wt Scott designed by Murry for those waters. It is a fast action rod perfect for dry flies. It'll fish small nymphs but early season when I expect to do more nymphing I like my 7'6" 4wt Loomis GL 3 which I would call a medium fast action. The GL 3 was Loomis' "budget" line about 20yrs ago. And the 7'6" 4wt is a nice, easy to fish, versatile small stream rod. The Scott is more specialized, but perfect for what it was designed for. I find more accuracy with the faster rods, and on the small, tight streams your target might be the size of a tea cup. JPK |
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