This will be the last straw !!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/politics ... Q920091015

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By Arshad Mohammed

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States would support the talks as long as the negotiating forum, the so-called Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, "operates under the rules of consensus decision-making."

"Consensus is needed to ensure the widest possible support for the Treaty and to avoid loopholes in the Treaty that can be exploited by those wishing to export arms irresponsibly," Clinton said in a written statement.

While praising the Obama administration's decision to overturn the Bush-era policy and to proceed with negotiations to regulate conventional arms sales, some groups criticized the U.S. insistence that decisions on the treaty be unanimous.

"The shift in position by the world's biggest arms exporter is a major breakthrough in launching formal negotiations at the United Nations in order to prevent irresponsible arms transfers," Amnesty International and Oxfam International said in a joint statement.

However, they said insisting that decisions on the treaty be made by consensus "could fatally weaken a final deal."

"Governments must resist US demands to give any single state the power to veto the treaty as this could hold the process hostage during the course of negotiations. We call on all governments to reject such a veto clause," said Oxfam International's policy adviser Debbie Hillier.

The proposed legally binding treaty would tighten regulation of, and set international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons.

Supporters say it would give worldwide coverage to close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market.

Nations would remain in charge of their arms export control arrangements but would be legally obliged to assess each export against criteria agreed under the treaty. Governments would have to authorize transfers in writing and in advance.

The main opponent of the treaty in the past was the U.S. Bush administration, which said national controls were better. Last year, the United States accounted for more than two-thirds of some $55.2 billion in global arms transfer deals.

Arms exporters China, Russia and Israel abstained last year in a U.N. vote on the issue.

The proposed treaty is opposed by conservative U.S. think tanks like the Heritage Foundation, which said last month that it would not restrict the access of "dictators and terrorists" to arms but would be used to reduce the ability of democracies such as Israel to defend their people.

The U.S. lobbying group the National Rifle Association has also opposed the treaty. Continued...

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And a conservative "read" on this:

Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms

On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States .

The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress.

Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg.

The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.

Does that mean Obama is telling the truth?

What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public.

We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership.

And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

Read the Article

U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

Source: The Full Article
http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...59E0Q920091015

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Silence will lead us to Socialism.
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MOLON LABE!

Good luck with that.

Its been tried, Congress, etc...

hrrrm.......  so it begins?

But never by these guys currently ruining our Country.

In on 1 I guess!

- Clint

Cold dead fingers, bullets first, etc., etc....

...  and molon labe, too.

Hope they bring snowshoes.

we'll see.....

The ground isn't cold enough for hell to have frozen over yet.

Ruin economy, check, lose a war, check, lie some more, check, let someone else ban guns, check,
Most worthless corrupt lying piece of shit unqualified non-citizen racist president, check.

That would be the straw that broke the wookies back.

 

This^

I didn't read the entire article but doesn't the Constitution (not that anyone respects it anymore) trump international treaties unless Congress approves, or something along those lines?

The tail end of the first article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

I see a collection of ventilated blue helmets in my future.

Why don't you cite that and provide a link? Oh, it's Alex Jones...

dbl tap

seriously how would we handle this? alone i am honestly afraid to try anything, as ill simply die and martyrs rarely get anything done but, i will not allow other countries to destroy the country i swore an oath to protect...

This after what I saw the House do this week.
Openly saying they didn't care what the people say they will do what they want(literally)
And the fines and jail time tied to the heath care bill.
And the fact that I'm paying taxes to a government that will not do it's duty  no matter how many Americans are killed.


In 1920 Justice Holmes said in the Missouri v. Holland case  ''Acts of Congress are the supreme law of the land only when made in pursuance of the Constitution."
A treaty that would override that Bill of Rights is not pursuance of the Constitution.
I will refuse the obey any unconstitutional laws and fight anyone who comes to force me to.

What happened when the Redcoats came for the powder and arms?
Let's see higher taxes, homes being lost, tea parties, There is a perfect storm brewing.

LET THEM TRY.

It's so unbelievable isn't it

Just like everything else Obama and company have done so far

Yea, no shit they want you to go to prison for no health insurance, it might as well be for guns too. FUCK obama AND FUCK THE un.




                                                                                   



                                                                                                 WOLVERINES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where's the ammo? Shit I'm doomed, I guess I'll be ok with a bando since I probably won't need more than one mag anyhow.  

In on one.  

Obama can allow talks, he cannot allow a treaty, a treaty must be approved by Congress.

Guys... If it passes... It's go time.



Be on the lookout for this...








 

Just in time for an election. Who'd a thunk it.The Brady bunch will go ape shit over this.

Yep, see Avatar!!

Tell that to Bill Clinton



 

Well.....golly.   The highly intelligent  American people elect a known marxist/socialist president and then act surprised when he does something like this.    Give him a break!   He's just doing what Lord Rothschild and the boys have ordered him to.

We knew he was going to try something. We've relied on our government elected officials protecting our rights and future for too long while piece by piece they've sold us down the river. I'd say it's about time some of you decide whether you've got any balls left and whether the future is worth fighting for, because voting and letting the same worthless cast of politicians run things isn't going to fix anything. It's too far gone. We need to take it back and start over.

BRAVO SIR, I agree.

Hooah.

Is that what arfcom will look like on "fo day"?

+1

the tired "ZOMG it's Alex Jones" cry is just a way to cop-out on all the terrible things happening to the country

As do I. I think that the elections next year will be ether the turning point or the last straw.



As they teach in the Boy Scouts. "Be Prepared"



 

Yup.



 

Then you would be shooting the wrong targets.



 

Guys, we all bitch about the Left agenda that is being forced upon us, but if this goes, its different. Once guns are gone from our hands, we are slaves, and you all know that. Self protection is a God given Right, taking that away is despotism, tyranny...and unacceptable.  You know what is required of you when that time comes, so ask yourself now, if you possess the constitution to do, to act, for what is right.  We are losing our freedom everyday, but removing arms IS the final blow to liberty.  I have a good life, great job, etc, but without freedom, it is meaningless.  So ask yourself now, where do you stand?  I know where I do and I know what I will do.

Stand with me brothers!

Give me Liberty or give me death!

They can have my bullets first.......................one trigger pull at a time!!!!!!!!!

Drug dealers don't pay taxes.
For those who don't understand that statement, let me be more clear: machine tools are not registered.



 

I believe ether the time has come or it is damn near close to when we need to see who is a Patriot or a Loyalist. Those of you who know history will know what I am talking about.



 

A person can tell the future by knowing history and realizing that what has happened before, has happened many times in the history of the world and will happen again.

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And what exactly are YOU doing that the rest of us aren't?  Just curious since you specifically excluded yourself in the above statement.

It seems like it's just politics, there is no way there will be a 100% unanimous vote of anything at the UN.

How can an international treaty controlling exports of arms affect US citizens besides the fact that AK's might no longer be imported? The treaty would have nothing to do with guns mfg and sold within our borders.  I think that the only ones this will hurt is Colt, Cerebrus etc.  It's the manufacturers who will get hurt with the reduction of exports.  (of course the NRA opposed this because mfg's are represented by people like Kollitides from Cerebrus,  NRA protects the industry too)

Are you guys reading into this a little too much, or am I missing something?