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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:40:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:40:39 PM EDT
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Eh. H&K-we hate you.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:40:50 PM EDT
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I don't see why they would be very pleased if their product was cut off.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:41:55 PM EDT
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wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems?
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:43:15 PM EDT
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HK was seeing how much the GSG-5 was selling and they decided they wanted in on the action. Same reason M&P and Colt, ect suddenly started making .22lr AR15's.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:43:37 PM EDT
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If legit- They were blatantly ripping off HK's design.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:44:08 PM EDT
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I don't see why they would be very pleased if their product was cut off. They are pleased HK only stuck the tip in, instead of all 10 inches. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:45:05 PM EDT
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If only they would clean out Toad Bailey
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:45:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: lolQuoted: I don't see why they would be very pleased if their product was cut off. They are pleased HK only stuck the tip in, instead of all 10 inches. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:46:19 PM EDT
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I guess the only thing to be "pleased" about is the cessation of litigation.
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If only they would clean out Toad Bailey Amen! |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:55:10 PM EDT
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My "pre-ban" GSG-5 will be listed in the EE for only $1800.00 guys!
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:56:29 PM EDT
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I don't see why they would be very pleased if their product was cut off. They are pleased HK only stuck the tip in, instead of all 10 inches. haha |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:59:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: I guess the only thing to be "pleased" about is the cessation of litigation. Quoted: If only they would clean out Toad Bailey Amen! That's a bit harder... The 'problem' was that GSG, GmbH was a European company, so they had to face HK in European court... HK coming over here to sue Bailey for copying a product they refuse to sell here would not go quite so well for them... |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:00:11 PM EDT
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So I guess HK will create their own version now for sale in the US? Of course their version will only be available to mil/leo and cost $2k each.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:01:16 PM EDT
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If this is true, then in a couple of decades these are going to be valuable.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:02:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems? I thought it was an airsoft rifle converted to .22 that sold for $300.00 more than it was worth? |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:02:11 PM EDT
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Not that I needed any more reasons not to buy an HK.
Why though couldnt they license the "look" I wonder. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:02:36 PM EDT
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So I guess HK will create their own version now for sale in the US? Of course their version will only be available to mil/leo and cost $2k each. They are licensing Umarex to make them 
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:03:27 PM EDT
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Fuck HK
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:03:50 PM EDT
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wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems? I thought it was an airsoft rifle converted to .22 that sold for $300.00 more than it was worth? This. And heavy as shit. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:04:22 PM EDT
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wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems? I thought it was an airsoft rifle converted to .22 that sold for $300.00 more than it was worth? This. And heavy as shit. That's because it real steel. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:07:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems? I thought it was an airsoft rifle converted to .22 that sold for $300.00 more than it was worth? This. And heavy as shit. That's because it real steel. i kinda wanted one when it first came out, but it was too much for a .22 |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:08:49 PM EDT
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Any word on the MKE Turkish HK rifles?
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:10:55 PM EDT
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wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems? Airsoft based plastic and modded for .22LR. There are loads over here. Not sure about the QC issues but have heard unconfirmed stories of split receivers and chambers. Hard to upgrade by all accounts, and trigger is nasty........ costs £400 over here (about $600). Quite a few second hand ones knocking around now, which makes me suspicious. I've seen a few and shot them - not impressed. It seems to be popular with people who like the look of the MP5........personally I'd rather go for am AR15 based .22 upper to go on one of my lowers. They make an AK47 looky likey now as well. Not seen it. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:11:15 PM EDT
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So basically a company makes a .22 rifles that looks like the MP-5, that doesn't compete with the MP-5 in any way that can be explained to me. The firearms moves like food in a refugee camp then HK decided to sue over trade dress infringment. I'm sorry I get protecting ones patents and shit. But if HK isn't going to try and actually market the MP5 here in the US or has a .22 MP5 trainer that they have currently forgotten to sell, why do they give a fuck?
Dick moves in my bookj. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:15:19 PM EDT
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If this is true, then in a couple of decades these are going to be valuable. Except that GSG wouldn't be able to import any replacement/repair/spare parts. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:16:09 PM EDT
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I hope my decked out gsg5 jumps up in value.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:16:52 PM EDT
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My "pre-ban" GSG-5 will be listed in the EE for only $1800.00 guys! Same here I now own a pre ban =) Should I fire it anymore? Now that I cant send it off if it screws up? |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:18:58 PM EDT
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HK. Because you suck, and we hate you.
Like a previous poster said, HK will probably come out with their own but it'll be $800 instead |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:21:38 PM EDT
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What IP were they actually infringing? I assume none of the internals were substantially similar.
The "look" of an MP-5? Can you copyright the appearance of a firearm? |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:22:09 PM EDT
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HK. Because you suck, and we hate you. Like a previous poster said, HK will probably come out with their own but it'll be $800 instead Likely via Umarex.. I think I saw an article this morning where HK had licensed Umarex for an MP7 .22LR clone as well. Now you're talking. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:23:30 PM EDT
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I guess the only thing to be "pleased" about is the cessation of litigation. Quoted:
If only they would clean out Toad Bailey Amen! That's a bit harder... The 'problem' was that GSG, GmbH was a European company, so they had to face HK in European court... HK coming over here to sue Bailey for copying a product they refuse to sell here would not go quite so well for them... If Bailey is infringing HK's IP in any way as defined by US or Intl law/conventions, HK USA can just as easily file suit. Cross border litigation happens all the time and seamlessly when there are grounds for it. I've gone through the process myself. HK just sold licenses to Umarex. They don't need to sell MP5s in the US to go after bailey. My guess is that they are protecting their licensee and also possibly GSG infringed in some way as defined by the EPC (European Patent Convention), which Bailey doesn't have to worry about. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:25:14 PM EDT
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If legit- They were blatantly ripping off HK's design. Don't patents only last for 15 years? The MP5 is like a 40 year old design. Why didn't HK sue Vector, Bobcat and all the other clone HK makers? |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:25:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:25:59 PM EDT
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HK. Because you suck, and we hate you. Like a previous poster said, HK will probably come out with their own but it'll be $800 instead Likely via Umarex.. I think I saw an article this morning where HK had licensed Umarex for an MP7 .22LR clone as well. Now you're talking. Correct. 416, MP5, and MP7 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/18/umarex-has-licensed-hk-416-mp5-and-mp7-for-22-lr-clones/ |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:27:20 PM EDT
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ok i am interested in an mp7 clone
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:39:12 PM EDT
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Now they have time to make an mp44!
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:46:21 PM EDT
[#38]
HA!
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:46:46 PM EDT
[#39]
I think HK is suing Todd and Vector.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:52:15 PM EDT
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Sweet I will sell my GSG-5 for $1200.00 now!!!!
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:52:31 PM EDT
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wrong post
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:53:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I don't see why they would be very pleased if their product was cut off. They are pleased HK only stuck the tip in, instead of all 10 inches. This |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:53:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:00:40 PM EDT
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Are they going to sue every airsoft company in the universe too?
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:01:32 PM EDT
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Are they going to sue every airsoft company in the universe too? They already are and a few dealers too. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:02:54 PM EDT
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wasn't it an overpriced .22 and had QC problems? Real gun stuffed into an airsoft body. I was never interested. I don't know what Hk's problem was. Its not like it was costing them market share here in the US.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:03:01 PM EDT
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HK certainly are greedy f***ing c***suckers.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:03:52 PM EDT
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I don't see why they would be very pleased if their product was cut off. They are pleased HK only stuck the tip in, instead of all 10 inches. That would be 2.5" sir. Their high prices are just them over compensating. |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:04:50 PM EDT
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Fuck H&K. It isn't like the GSG-5 is in a market that H&K is competing in. H&K could give a fuck about civilian sales, especially when it comes to semi-auto clones of their weapons. They are assholes for doing this, as the GSG wasn't costing them a fucking cent. Fuck them.
ETA - It needs to be said again - Fuck H&K  |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 3:06:57 PM EDT
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Makes me say i'm ashamed to say i own hks
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